Breaking News: Phils, Ibanez Close To Agreement
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, December 11, 2008 05:41 PM | Comments: 180
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Accrording to numerous reports, the Phillies are close to signing outfielder Raul Ibanez.
From Jayson Stark :
Ibanez has been sending signals through friends that the Phillies are his top choice. And two high-ranking Phillies officials — outgoing GM Pat Gillick and assistant GM Benny Looper — know Ibanez well from their days in Seattle. One source described talks between the club and Ibanez’s agents, Seth and Sam Levinson, as “heating up,” and said the two sides have made progress.
Posts: 0 Manny
Wawaweewa!
Posted: 05:42 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Ed
Finally some positive news. Lets hope they get this done.
Posted: 05:44 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Geoff
um….what?
if they sign ibanez…that means geoff jenkins is going to get traded and it means they still need a righty outfielder to platoon with him….
Posted: 05:44 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Ed
Why does that mean Jenkins gets traded? Jenkins would be the 4th OF.
Posted: 05:47 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Manny
If we get him (very good average and power, gets 100+ RBIs):
1. it better be relatively cheap
2. we better keep going for lowe
If we’re not getting Lowe, I would rather have Moyer and Burrell again, and not add any new pieces.
Posted: 05:48 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Griffin
I’m a little confused by this. He’s an older, left-handed version of Burrell. It’s better than doing nothing, but not worth if it means we’re out of the Lowe sweepstakes.
Posted: 06:24 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Christian
I know he is a solid player but why would we want another left-handed bat? I agree about Jenkins – he will be the odd man out since he bats left as well.
Posted: 06:25 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 justin
where is he going to bat?
JRoll/Utley/Werth/Howard/Ibanez/shane/Feliz/ruiz/pitcher?
we cant have
JRoll/Werth/Utley/Howard/Ibanez/shane/Feliz/ruiz/pitcher that is 3 straight lefties
Posted: 06:26 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
So the way to beat Johan Santana and Oliver Perez to is to attack them with more LH hitters.. good.. he better be WAY less than $10 M per season
Posted: 06:27 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Chuck P
J Roll/Vic/Utley/Howard/Werth/Ibanez/Feliz/Ruiz/Pitcher
Posted: 06:28 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Luis phillies phan
we aint getting lowe either he going to the yankees,redsox,or possibly even the mets but this is great news!
Posted: 06:28 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Chuck P
This deal better come cheap…
Posted: 06:28 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, Feliz, Ruiz, Chan Ho Park. (or hit Park 4th…)
Posted: 06:29 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 mike mike
Remember before we sign him ask Geoff if it raises our national debt. and if don can afford to go to the games if they raise tickets by .50 to pay him. Who is going to take jenkins at 8 million a year.
Posted: 06:30 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Eb
I dont mind this signing. Ibanez has a well documented great work ethic, he is a great clubhouse person. He also hits well against lefties (i think i read that). Also look at his numbers, they brought down by Safeco field which is arguebly the 2nd best pitcherrs park in the Majors.
Burrell definately wanted minimum 10 million per season and a 4 year deal.
Keep going after Lowe or make a trade for pitching
Posted: 06:30 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 had_my_phil
He’ll also be able to hit 3rd for utley when he’s out the first month
Posted: 06:32 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 justin
victorino is so much better hitting in the 6th hole then 2nd. his bat and speed are perfect for the back end of the lineup. werth needs to be either 2 and 3
Posted: 06:33 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
I heard Teixiera is either RedSox or Nationals..
Burnett is Yankees or Braves
Lowe is Yankees or RedSox.
from Peter Gammons today
Posted: 06:34 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
He’s a left handed batter but he hit over .300 against lefties last season. All of the talk about platooning left field for the entire season got me nervous about that gaping hole in our lineup, which makes me like this move a lot if it comes at a decent price and doesn’t take us out of the Lowe race. Plus, Ibanez is a great clubhouse guy, will add to the chemistry even further.
Posted: 06:34 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Justin
What does everyone think of this lineup….
Victorino/Utley/Werth/Howard/Ibanez/Rollins/Feliz/Ruiz/Pitcher
You can swap Victorino and Rollins as the leadoff man but to get a guy with speed at the 5 or 6 hole is needed with slow guys down at the end of the lineup. It proved very important in the playoffs to add speed to the bottom of the lineup and with 3 lefties in the lineup it makes sense to bat Utley 2nd to help put a good patient hitter at the top of the lineup to set the table for Howard and Ibanez. Thoughts?
Posted: 07:25 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 dan
MLBTR says we passed up Atkins for Carrasco. Man, if we coulda pulled that trigger and signed Lowe…
Posted: 08:18 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Phil
Just read the Rockies wanted Carrasco for Atkins…why didn’t Amaro pull the trigger on this trade? That is the RH bat we need.
Posted: 08:28 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 mike mike
mlb said phillies turn down carrasco for atkins. How good is atkins, really don’t see a lot of him.
Posted: 09:08 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Justin
Hey has anyone heard that the Phils turned down a trade of Carlos Carrasco for Garrett Atkins?
Posted: 09:45 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 NJ
Carrasco for Atkins, made me laugh… We should offer them Stairs for Jiminez. That’s just a blatent attempt at thievery, Amaro would have been insane to accept that move.
Posted: 09:47 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 edavies7
ATkins is a stud and would be great for this team. I love Carasco but I would rather have the proven player that fills a huge need a right handed power bat. We have a few other good pitching prospects we can groom if we deal Carasco. Do Amaro and sign Ibanez and Lowe and the divison is ours.
Posted: 10:01 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 GWFightinsFan
Ibanez is a solid contact hitter, may go a long way towards improving our lineup actually. He strikes out a hell of a lot less than Burrrel and can simply put the ball in play when we need to drive in a run or two
Posted: 10:05 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 metsblow4show
Hey Guys, I don’t know if you heard but Cole Hamels went on WFAN today with Mike Francesca and was asked about the Muts choking. Hamels answered him by saying kinda indirectly that they did choke. So Francescal flat out asked him if he was saying the Muts were “choke artists” and Cole answered him by saying that after what the Muts did the past two Septembers, that yes they are “choke artists”. I love it. You have to drop by metsblog.com. They posted the interview and have over 100 responses from their whining fans. They want Cole’s head. I posted a few comments just to rile them up even more . Too Funny ! Great Job, Cole !
Posted: 10:15 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Pete
Ibanez can hit lefties just fine. He’s a slight upgrade from Burrell. Strikes out less, walks less, puts a lot more balls in play, more RBI.
atkins is not a stud. he hit .233 away from coors last year.
Posted: 10:18 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 psujoe
Ibanez would be a nice pickup. We need Jenkins to platoon for werth if he starts to break down or continues to struggle against rightes. Ibanez in conjuntion with Derosa would’ve been perfect.
Posted: 10:19 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 christopher
i really hope these talks fall through at the last minute. i would so much rather have pat back than ibanez.
Posted: 10:21 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 psujoe
Kendrick and Coste for Atkins would be more fair.
Posted: 10:23 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Ray
wait where are the reports?
Posted: 10:26 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Justin
I’d do Kendrick and Coste for Atkins in a heartbeat.
Posted: 10:26 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 david
what sources are stating that ibanez is going to the phils? I havent seen it anywhere else but here. Is this wishful thinking, or is there a credible source behind it, other than the info from stark that things are “heating up”, and a friend of a friend saying that Ibanez likes the Phils?
Posted: 10:27 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 NEPA
Haha, the Rockies would absolutely never take Kendrick and Coste for Atkins. They wouldn’t even consider it. I say scoop Ibanez up as soon as possible. It seems like Burrell is all but gone, and the last thing I want to see is a platoon in left.
Posted: 10:28 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 psujoe
Anyone have a guess on what it would take? 3 years for ?
Posted: 10:29 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 MMMcheesesteak
Check Atkins road numbers, he is NO stud!!!!
Posted: 10:30 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 psujoe
NEPA, it was tongue and cheek because no way we give up Carasco for Atkins.
Posted: 10:30 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 tom
My guess is 3years 21-29 million with a option year
Posted: 10:30 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Johnson
guys…we are not signing derek lowe…anyone being offered that kind of loot from the yankees isnt going to take less to come here. as much as id want him its not going to happen. this ibanez stuff is great…could hit 3-4-5 in this lineup and be succesful. hit leftys much better than utley or howard. will be a great veteran offensive prescense in the locker room too. whoever says you would rather have pat than ibanez is crazy…trust me…youd rather have ibanez
Posted: 10:36 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Manny
Anyone knows what type of deal could get Ibanez?
His 2008 salary was 5.5M
Posted: 10:36 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Manny
I think 3 years is way too much.
These outfielders/DHs (like Pat) could even go for 1 year.
Posted: 10:38 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Do anyone realize that we can probably have Burrell for 2y/15m right this second?
Posted: 10:39 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 tom
its the way the market is set he is the best of the cornor outfielders and he is a good player and thanks the the yankees thats what he will command.
Posted: 10:40 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Johnson
my guess is 3years 32-35mill
as far as atkins goes he is much better at home…good hitter but feliz is the man at 3rd…as good a glove as you can see at the hot corner. with all the offense in this lineup id rather have a surefire great glove at third that hits 260 than atkins and his 15-20 errors…no way they would have taken kendrick and coste…thats a joke since atkins comes at a bargain…i nthink carrasco is to much to give up…maybe if our offense was lacking and we didnt have feliz it would be closer
Posted: 10:40 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Ibanez
Werth/Jenkins
Feliz/Dobbs
Ruix
Sa-weet
Posted: 10:43 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Johnson
ibanez is not getting platooned with…hits leftys just fine…he is an everyday hitter. he hit .305 vs leftys last year in 200 atbats
Posted: 10:52 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 KM
For anyone questioning the batting lineup with Ibanez, here is what I would do:
Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Werth
Ibanez
Feliz
Ruiz
Hamels
Posted: 10:57 PM on December 11, 2008
Posts: 0 Tyler (not the Mets fan Tyler)
HORRIBLE move!!!!! we do NOT need another lefty batter. Especially another power-hitting lefty batter. The best choice for the phils is by far milton bradley… switch-hitter, power-hitter, hits for good avg, all around a great player… yea he has attitude issues but he’s apparently good friends with utley & jroll & howard can fix the rest… not to mention manuel is a players manager… i mean even manny likes him
Posted: 10:59 PM on December 11, 2008