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Hamels Says Mets Are ‘Choke Artists’

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, December 11, 2008 11:42 PM | Comments: 113
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Cole Hamels was on WFAN today, and like a good Phillie, said something that would get immeasurable press:

“Last year and this year I think we did believe that [they were choke artists]. Three years ago we didn’t because they smoked everybody, and I think we all thought they were going to win it all. Unfortunately that didn’t happen.

“But, yeah, that’s kind of what we believed and I think we’re always going to believe that until they prove us wrong. For the past two years they’ve been choke artists.”

Now, bear with me, I don’t think Hamels was being completely arrogant here. I do think Hamels and the other Phillies thought the Mets were able to defeat everyone in 2006. And they were. They came excruciatingly close to winning the National League Championship Series; instead, the Cardinals defeated them, and they took care of an overmatched, green Detroit Tigers team. Really, that season was the Mets’ to lose, and they absolutely lost it.

2007, of course, was theirs to lose, as well. They should’ve won the East. They didn’t.

Last year, however, seemed a bit different. Though the Mets had a sizable lead on the Phillies in September, it never seemed out of reach. By 2008, the Mets had become almost a running joke.

Yes, while Hamels said something that will make him vilified beyond belief, it really isn’t far from the truth. And he absolutely believes that.

 
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  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Cole speaks the truth.

     
  • Posts: 0 bones

    cole is the man he speaks the truth u cant get much more of a choke artist then the METS . the mets will better next season though with the signings to improve there bullpen but the fightin phils will come out on top and repeat as in the words of chase “WORLD F*#KING CHAMPS

     
  • Posts: 0 T Marty

    i heard it, and he was goaded into saying that. The WFAN guy said “choke” 2-3 times before Cole agreed with him. i can’t believe there’s even a stink about this.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jim

    Mets fan seem to have no idea what a “rivalry” is . We have dominated this rivlarly the past 2 years and everytime a phillies fan or player says the word “mets” they assume they have an inferiortiy complex.

    But have n o fear phils fans for it is them with the inferiority complex. Proof: just check metsblog.com and read the posts and comments. They always mention the phillies like its a phillies blog. But here, this is just one of 2 posts in the past montht to mention the mets, and one of them was the krod signing.

    phils fans>mets fans

     
  • Posts: 0 Jim

    Also, waht the hell was Cole doing on WFAN

     
  • Posts: 0 Jason B

    And that is the gospel, according to Cole. As if winning two playoff mvp awards weren’t enough, he absolutly solidified himself as one of the greatest Phils of all time.

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob Cowie

    Cole was on a lot of stations. He was making media rounds promoting the DVD and charities.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mazinman

    Somewhere out there Jimmy Rollins is laughing while thinking “Why didn’t I say that first!?”

    The sad thing about the Mets and their fans is that as long as we have that trophy they don’t have anything to stand on in trying to debate that.

     
  • Posts: 0 goosebumps

    we need this kind of stuff to get some passion circulating the phillies. they have earned the cities respect, now its time to make the bandwagon a permanent stay. lets have a nice rivalry goin on. he can back up his talk so why not?

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    can someone please tell me why the heck you phillies fans and players are so obsessed with the Mets. I hope Hammels gets a fast ball right in his ear hole next April. Just a classic Philly player, doesnt know when to shut his mouth. Granted, they kind of pulled that remark out of him. He was kind of just agreeing with him rather than coming up with that statement on his own. But jeez, have a little class man. No Mets player would ever say that about an opponent. Who cares if it is true. We did choke the last 2 years. How do you think you got your championship? But its just something you don’t say on the radio. Why are Phillies players so friggin arrogant? And Jim….I can not believe you have the audacity to say how you have dominated the rivalry the last 2 seasons. Give me a break dude. in ’07 you guys had the division handed to you on a silver platter. We gave it to you, you didn’t earn it. And last year, umm, dominated?? Take a look at our season record against each other…moron…we beat you 11 out of 18 games, dummy. But oh yeah, you dominated us, that’s right. And the only reason you guys came away with the division is because Wagner went down with 2 months to go. If we had our closer there is no way in hell you guys win the division. So once again you didn’t earn it, we gave it to you. One thing i will give you guys credit is how you stepped it up during the playoffs when it mattered the most. But please explain to me why so many Phillies players have to sit there and run their mouths about the Mets. I mean you guys couldn’t even win a championship with talking about the Mets. You guys are way to obsessed with the Mets. Its like you enjoy seeing the Mets fail more than you enjoying seeing your own team win. But you say its us that has the inferiority complex?? Yeah okay. All you guys do is talk about the Mets. Yes, i read this blog every day just to see what kind of shit you are talking about the Mets. I have never seen a baseball player talk as much shit as Victorino, Rollins, and Hammels. Especially Rollins. All he ever does is talk about the Mets. Right after you guys won, he’s sitting there say, “see, mets…this is what happens when you shut up and play”. What, is he like 12 effing years old. What an idiot. J Rollins is pu55y. Lil mama’s boy. I’m so sick of all you Phillies fans (and players) talkin shyt about the Mets. I cant wait until we dominate the division next year. I think the only way to shut you guys up is hurt you where it counts. In the standings. Then you guys will finally stop running your mouths because you all are front runners, just like your short stop said last Sept. LOL. How can you guys stand by your star player after he said that about you guys? But the sad thing is, he is right. He’s not stupid, he’s just ignorant. And he just doesn’t know when to shut his mouth.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    yawn. The sun rises and Mets fans whine.

     
  • Posts: 0 mike mike

    Cole should keep his mouth shut. The mets will be one of the only teams that can sign him when he leaves. He will be commanding big dollars and there are only five teams that can spend that kind of money. Mets,Yankees, RedSox,Angels, Cubs. By the way normally a riveraly is more than two years. The mets just don;t think of the phillies as a riveraly because most years we aren’t good. Rivarly like yankees redsox or boston celtics -los angeles lakers. teams that win title beating each other not a bad team that sometimes get good for a couple of years and wants to sell itself as a consistant rival.

     
  • Posts: 0 mike mike

    total nonsense mets fan. sorry you are right there is no rivarly. that is something the fans on this blog are trying to sell. But please you have big mouth billy wagner, on that team and Beltran, overrated player for the money, but I must admit love wright great player and santana . I trully believe the bullpen guys you added will make your team the easy division winner. your blew 29 saves and now have the save leader and a 8 inning stud. we lost a 17 game winner and will replace him with a cheap pitcher like park, advantage your team, we will replace burrell a right handed bat with 33 homeruns and a guy who protect howard with mark derosa or ibanez advantage mets.. so you don;t need to worry the division is yours.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    No rivalry? Conceding the division in December? My head hurts.

     
  • Posts: 0 jmus

    wow i hope nobody wasted their time reading phillyhater.. these mets fans are so sensitive and need to take their tampons out for a few minutes and cool down. who cares? think cole is shaking in his boots now that mets fans are making such a hype and talking about pitching into his ribs? na hes probably sippin on a few beers pollishing a few trophies of his. get real

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    I love how the Mets fans and New York in general are getting up in arms when Hamels was asked a loaded question where WFAN flat out called the Mets “choke artists” and then proceeded to ask Hamels if they were “choke artists.”

    Sure, it sounds like smack talk out of context. But then again, that’s how New York loves to create controversies as if the Phillies are constantly obsessed with the Mets. Hamels was asked the question. He answered.

    Same deal with Jimmy Rollins’ “team to beat” comment. The question was asked to him almost verbatim “Do you think the Phillies are the team to beat?”

    You New Yorkers have seriously got to get over yourselves.

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    even the guy who wrote this blog is a moron. Tim Malcolm, you are just like all the other phillies fans and players. Ignorant immature little kids on the playground. Thats what y’all remind me of.

    “and like a good Phillie, he said something that would get immeasurable press”…omg, are you kidding me dude?

    since when is getting immeasurable press a good thing? Well maybe it is in Philly land, but we have too much class for that kind of shyt. “and like a good little Phillie lol You guys should be concentrating more on improving your team and the hot stove report. instead of getting “immeasurable press” and starting controversy. But instead, once again, all you can think of to do is sit there and talk shyt about the Mets. You guys are really pathetic. Its sad

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Philly hater, maybe you should read the actual transcript before you go spewing your venom. You make it seem like Hamels said this on his own, saying it completely with his words. T

    Question: Do you think the Mets are choke artists? A lot of Mets fans think they are. Do you look at it from afar and say, honestly, we know they are going to find a way to lose this thing.

    Hamels: Last year and this year, I think we did believe that. Three years ago, we didn’t because they smoked everybody. I really thought was the year they were going to go to the World Series. Unfortunately, it didn’t happen. That’s kind of what we believe and I think we will always believe it until they prove us wrong.

    Q: Wow. It’s worth repeating, you say the Mets are choke artists.

    Hamels: Yeah, for the past two years they’ve been choke artists.

    he interviewer was asking him about the Mets and he responded. What do you prefer, him responding about some other random team? He was asked a quesiton, he answered. Get over yourself, seriously. Go over to Metsblog and see how many posts are Phillies related or how often your fans can’t stop talking about the Phillies.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    “blah, blah, blah…Phillies stink…blah, blah, you guys are pathetic….blah, blah…you are classless….wah, wah”

    Mets fans can just copy and paste this. It just summarizes the whining.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Griffin, don’t forget, winning the season series is a bigger accomplishment to the Mets fans as opposed to the division or the league championship or the World Series. Because winning 11 out of 18 is far more important right?

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Good point, Mets fans bring that up as if it’s supposed to mean something. Congrats on going 11-7 against the Phillies. What an embarassment for the Phils, they must console themselves with another division title and a World Championship.

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    SJ MIKE…maybe you should read what i just wrote in my comment ya big dummy. I said they pulled it out of him. He was just basically answering a question and agreeing rather than coming up with that on his own. I was listening to WFAN when the interview was being given.

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    SJMIKE, i didnt say winning 11 out of 18 was more important. I was just disagreeing with what Jim said when he stated that you guys dominated us the last 2 years. PLease read what i say before you come at me with some bullshit.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Sorry, I went crosseyed by your whiney ranting and extremely bad grammar.

    However, that is the cardinal “come back” by any and all Mets fans justifying some sort of moral victory over the Phillies. That is usually followed with “we handed you the division” because apparently winning and losing is only determined by what a New York team does.

    Well, if you have a problem with everything, just handle it the New York way. Throw lots of money at the it. Problem solved!

     
  • Posts: 0 jmus

    hey heyy easy everyone.. take this cursing and bashing back over to metsblog.. we’re a little more classy here

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    and i am a major contributer to metsblog every day, and very rarely are you guys the Phillies or their fans mentioned, so i dont know wtf you are talking about. Phillies fans talk more shyt than anyone. That is fact. You guys are obsessed with the Mets.

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    SJMIKE….you say i have bad grammar?….read what you just wrote.

    “Throw lots of money at the it. Problem solved!”

    Typical phillies fan. Just trying to find anything to talk shyt about. Oh, lets criticize his grammar.

     
  • Posts: 0 I know Sal...

    phillyhater…it’s okay, you’ll have a chance next year to knock the DEFENDING WORLD SERIES CHAMPION PHILLIES off the mountain….just like the rest of the league.

    “It’ll get old when someone else is the Champions, until then we’re on top and don’t your forget it”

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    You must be looking at a completely different web site then, because I check it out often and your own readers were throwing fits about how much Phillies talk was going on there, especially in November. And a quick type of the word “Phillies” in your search function over there brings up 51 posts that feature the Phillies in the main post since October 29th, many of which are soley about the Phillies. And funny how those posts have hundreds of comments to each of them, especially Mets fans going on rampage rants about Shane Victorino and Jimmy Rollins.

    You could’ve fooled me with that one and your “facts.”

    But I forgot, the Mets and their fanbase are little angels who would never say or do anything wrong.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Ahhh, the singling out of the one extremely minor typo. Well, I guess one slip up is a hell worthy trespass as opposed to that extremely long paragraph of nonsense. You totally got me cornered, I don’t know what I’m ever going to do.

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    well how can you expect mets fans not to get mad when J Rollins says some of the stuff he says. For one, he called Philles fans “front runners” when you fell 3 games behind in Sept, and then as soon as you guys win it all, he’s sittin there saying, “see, this is what happens when you shut up and play” directed at the Mets. When he is the one who doesnt know when to shut up.

    yeah, thats right, i am ranting. Thats what blogs are all about. Its all for fun. I just had to get some stuff off my chest.

    As much as i hate the Phillies i will give alot of credit to how they stepped it up in the playoffs and played really well when it mattered the most. You guys really made the Rays look like they didnt even deserve to be in the playoffs.

    Well its gonna be fun stealing your crown next year. You all know, if we had a half decent bullpen coming down the stretch, there’s no way you guys win the division. Now, someone try to tell me we all of a sudden have the best bullpen in the majors. At least on paper.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jason B

    Philly hater, a child on the playground? is that what you are calling us? Well to philosophical for a moment… If we were per say “children on the playground,” You would be the child wearing suspenders, glasses, and a helmet, getting knocked around the school yard. Stop crying. It’s really pathetic, and interrupts what is generally sophisticated talk. So go hug your “I love Gary Carter’s Hair,” doll and remeber that your team hasn’t won it since Doc Gooden was smoking Crack in the streets of Yonkers. See you when the season starts, as we begin our TITLE DEFENSE, and you try to shake the name “CHOKE ARTISTS” from your misreable little back.

     
  • Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner

    I didn’t hear the Cole Hamels interview,but I will say this,he was 100% correct.Phillies and their phans deserve to beat their chests,trumpet their bravado and bring out their machismo.Sorry fellow Amazins fans,its true,our Amazins have had their duffs knocked in the dirt for the last 3 years…but until they climb out of the dreks of 2 week choke jobs,they are always gonna be the underachievers that they are now,retrofitted bullpen,Johan Santana or not.I do remember someone from 20 years ago named David Cone,who opened his mouth to the Dodgers and had his head handed to them,so be careful Cole.I still support My Amazins and will root for them til my last breath and beyond but the Mets have to look in the mirrors and wonder if they can overcome their hatchet jobs that they have done to themselves.

     
  • Posts: 0 I know Sal...

    here’s what I know about the Mets new bullpen…they blew more Saves then our guy did, last year. It’s hard to top perfection.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Good to know that only Phillies players talk. Because we all know that in ’07 when Billy Wagner got beaten by Pat Burrell, insulting him by saying “He has a one path swing and I threw it right in his path.” Burrell performed an encore not too long after that in the 4 game sweep at the end of that August.

    Or Paul Lo Duca during that season saying things like “We’ll get those guys soon. They may be dancing on the field now, but we’ll get them.” How about the famous “champagne will taste sweeter” quote. And of course “To Jimmy Rollins, we are the team to beat.”

    And to think it all started because you guys freaked out over a similar situation as to this. A Phillies player being asked a loaded question and agreeing with the question. Rollins was asked if the Phillies were the team to beat and he agreed. Didn’t single out the Mets. It was the New York media and the Mets fans who started that whole thing up. You guys like making mountains out of molehills.

    I’m glad that it gives you that much satisfaction and a boost to your self esteem to exhaust this much energy as going to Phillies blogs to pick a fight. It’s quite humorous to be honest.

     
  • Posts: 0 SJ Mike

    Grumpy Miner, check a few posts above. I posted the transcript. It was a loaded question where WFAN cornered it out of Hamels. Philly sports talk is the same way as New York sports talk radio: relentless when interviewing someone. They’ll ask you the same question over and over again to create a sound byte to get a rise out of people the exact same way this has gotten to this elevated level.

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob Cowie

    The Mets were golfing in October.

     
  • Posts: 0 Nesto

    I don’t get the whole, “If the Mets had a good bullpen, they would have won the division” argument. Yea, you’re probably right. And if the Nationals had a good starting rotation and a good offense and a good bullpen, they might have won the division. If the Phillies had traded for Johan Santana, instead of the Mets, they might have blown out the NL East competition, instead of only winning by 3 games.

    Phillyhater is right about us not “dominating” the Mets last year. If I remember correctly, the first and only series we won against them last year came in our final visit to New York of the season, in September. But hey, we won some games when we had to, especially in the 4 game Brewer series.

     
  • Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner

    I have a feeling it was jab from the perinial Yankee fan Mike Francessa who egged Cole into saying what he said.Same with Michael Kay,both are Yankee shills who will kill the Mets and proclaim them the bastard red-headed step children and I don’t have a better use for them.Thats Wright,I don’t listen to NY sports radio in the afternoon.I just put the XM on at work and listen to either Home Plate,Opie and Anthony,XM Holly or the decades channels when I get to work in the afternoons. Anothwr thing SJ,I read the transcript but my thoughts were on Phillies players and fans earning the Wright to say what they want to about my Amazins and theres not a thing the Mets or my fellow fans can say or do about it.

     
  • Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner

    PhillyHater,you need to calm down because it sounds like to me that you have a bad case of SHUT THE HELL UP!Now as I am a fellow Mets fan like yourself,i call out the Phillies any chance I get….but when you call out Tim,you are way out of line.I will never be a Phillies fan,but I do have respect for certain bloggers in here and I feel that I have earned their respect.Excuse me for being brutally honest esp to you,but I call it like it is.

     
  • Posts: 0 phillyhater

    well than explain why did he say, “Cole Hamels was on WFAN today, and like a good Phillie, said something that would get immeasurable press”

    that was the most ridiculous thing i heard on here yet. It just sums up how and why phillies fans say the things they say.

     
  • Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner

    Hater….the Phillies and their Phans deserve to knock the Mets,Yankees,Nationals,Royals,Padress and the sisters of St Agnes because they won the championship,they earned it.But remember in 09,all teams are 0-0 and as for the Phillies,the Hunters have become the Hunted.Now I may use that line repeatedly,yet it is the truth and the Phillies and their Phans know it and can’t shy away from it.Now as for Cole,After hearing the interview,I believe Francessa stirred the drink,also Cole can go on The FAN,WIP,The Team,WEEI,KNBR in San Fran,or sportsradio in Butte Montana whenever he wants and stations have that Wright to bring him on air,thats what good sportsradio stations do,get guests who have insight to their game and give 20 mins of good conversation..

     
  • Posts: 0 Pete

    Haha…too funny! Good on Grrumpy Miner for calling it like it is – I knew there was a reason I think he’s the best Mets fan that posts here. As for Phillyhater – get over yourself. If this, if that, bad bullpen, blah blah blah. The Phils won the division and then blew the competition away in the playoffs.

    I’ll take losing the ‘season series’ all day as long as it means we win the WORLD F*CKING SERIES

     
  • Posts: 0 Mark

    Hey; I thought Met bashing was Jimmy’s job! Go Phillies 2009!

     
  • Posts: 0 Joey

    media outlets in all markets need to learn to not ask a question, it if you dont want to hear the answer. Its getting to be a joke. Interviewers just egging these guys on to get the controversial sound clip. If mets fans want to cry about anything it should be that their sports talk radio is covering cole hamels on a day they got jj putz. I guess they havent gotten as good as philly phans at looking forward to next season?

     
  • Posts: 0 R.Mac

    ESPN reports Phils and Ibanez agree to 3-year $30 mil deal.

    I like it.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike T.

    i haven’t been on here in awhile, but i just had to comment on what a sad sack of shit this “phillyhater” guy is. it’s almost laughable.

     
  • Posts: 0 KB

    Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. How ironic that that Cole, the guy that chokes when facing the Mets, would make this remark. Too funny!

     
  • Posts: 0 Woodman

    KB: This is what’s funny…. that is a loser Muts fan would be interested in anything posted on the WORLD CHAMPION PHILLIES blog. Choke away clown!

     
  • Posts: 0 KB

    What a typical reply from a Philadelphia fan like you Woodman. Resort to mudslinging and personal insult rather than reply with logic or intellect. See ya in ’09! Can’t wait!

     
 
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