Phillies Nation

I like signing Park if we can get him cheap on a 1-year deal. Especially since, given the Yankees’ offer to Burnett (5/91), I really do think the Phils can sign Lowe. A rotation of Hamels/Lowe/Myers/Blanton/Park is fine by me, especially with Carrasco and Happ waiting in the wings at AAA.

I also must say, given all the comments on the last thread about how ridiculous the Yanks’ offer for Sabathia was, that what they paid is really not out of line. In fact, the deal they gave CC represents a CONTRACTION over the last few years prices for top-end pitching. Go read the analysis at fangraphs.com if you don’t believe me. The Yankees’ spending spree is not the death knell for baseball – they have a crapload of cash coming off the payroll, and new stadium revenue to look forward to. This is not going to be a year-in, year-out thing, even for NYY. Should MLB have a salary cap? Absolutely, but this offseason is not Exhibit A for that.

I must admit, i’ve very confused about the trade of catchers. There must be something more to that deal. Amaro must have talks with other catchers in mind…

yeah K-Rod didn’t scare me too much, but that’s a real nifty 8th/9th combo there now with Putz, considering both stay healthy.

However, if Madson continues to pitch like he did in the postseason, we have ourselves a pretty solid 8th/9th combo as well, and Romero/Durbin allow a pretty solid 7th in addition.

Geoff you are right in that Lowe now really would be nice. I also like Ibanez, even though he is another lefty. I think if you drop Werth into the middle of chase, howard, ibanez, he’ll get to face a lot of left handed pitchers, and that could really help out his performance, because as we all know, he crushes left handers.

Our bullpen is just as dominant… but this is a great move for NY. It’s probably a better move than signing K-Rod (Putz is one heck of an 8th inning guy and a nice insurance policy if K-Rod blows up). And I’m worried because our biggest offseason news so far has been essentially losing key parts of last year’s success.

Well, DeRosa is more of a target because he can play 2nd base in case Utley isn’t healthy to start the season, 3B in case Feliz is hampered by a bum back and also the OF. Ibanez is a better offensive hitter but DeRosa is a solid utlity guy who is better than Bruntlett. If you are looking purely at offense then Ibanez is your guy.

Everyone thinks that IF Burnett signs with NY, then they won’t chase Lowe. That isn’t the case. They may not offer Lowe as many years but there are still rumors out there that the Yankees will sign 3 of the starting pitchers. And there are reports that the Red Sox are working behind the scenes to secure Lowe over the Yankees.

With the catching situation: We traded a Triple A C for a MLB ready backup catcher. Reason here is simple. Ruiz will be our starter with Paulino backing him up. Marson, as he should, gets to play all year in Lehigh and has to prove himself offensively there first. It also spells the end of Coste’s time here which is a shame.

Mets in acquiring K-Rod in a very easy and a great deal which didn’t cost that much and bringing Joe Jason Putz into the 8th inning role was a very bold and very PHENOMINAL move which has guys like Santana,Pelfrey and Maine salivating.If you notice that I listed 3 starters,you noticed correctly.Mets need to go out there and bring in another starter,left fielder,more experience on the bench including a 4th outfielder…….Hmmmmm,I wonder what Rocco Baldelli is doing.

if dunns price goes down enough it may not be a bad idea..i mean, if theyre desperate for power and cant find any RH power bats.

Well…..it looks like we have our LF situation solved after all, if you believe the rumblings out of the meetings regarding hoe everyone feels about Pat Burrell. It looks like he’ll be back. And so as not to embarrass him completely, I would give him a 1y/7m deal. Looks like Amaros not so dumb after all.

If the price is Lowe enough…..Mets should consider Adam Dunn as well.

same with howard: just shut up and take the money…dont go crying for a few more million when youre getting 10mm already…

im sick of it..im glad i have a job, yet MILLIONS of americans are starving because they got fired and their company stole their pension funds and got away with it…meanwhile these guys are holding out for 90mm when they have 80mm in the hand…this whole thing makes me sick…

id make a generous offer to lowe in terms of money, but over 3 years..if he doesnt take it it tell him to go climb a tree and move on to someone else..

In Lowe’s defense… would you rather have the “respect” of bloggers in Philadelphia……..or…… $Millions more dollars…?

i love watching baseball and following the team..but im sick of all of this idol worship of people that complain over not making 15mm when theyre making 10mm…seriuosly, sabathia said he felt bad about taking the yankees money and said hed be ok with 100mm from someone else, then the next day, turned around and took even more money

well they used the bailout money in washington to offer him that contract…

i agree..let him go off to the yankees too…if the yankees want sabathia, burnett, lowe, AND texeira, they can have them….let them blow all that money. with those four players, still, i will ONE HUNDRED PERCENT GUARANTEE that the yankess STILL wont win the WS….

The thing is the yankees spend the revenue. We bought in a lot of extra revenue. and even with the arb cases will only be adding a little more to our payroll. I really believe right now the mets have really help themselfs. and there three starters are better than ours. Sanatana, maine who kills us. Peltry. if they get back perez with there added bullpen help they only need seven innings. and santana will be just awesome. They won’t be blowing saves like last year when he pitched.

Geoff’s right, all this talk about guys holding out for another million or two, while things are so bad for so many people, it’s really revolting. I love baseball and will always watch, but will I constantly be reminded that these players we hold in such high regard would leave us in a heartbeat for another cool M? Oh yeah! I mean, how much freakin’ money does one person need in their lifetime? I try to think of how I could spend several M $, and after taking care of my entire family and friends, what more do you need? I will jump off my bandwagon now, but this IS really disgusting.

On sports-radio last night, one of the guys made a GREAT observation… you could hit the POWERBALL JACKPOT $$$$$$$$……. and still not have as much money as CC Sabathia just signed for with the Yankees.. it makes me sick

yeah it all does make me sick..im not jumping off the bandwagon, im still a fan…but i dont worship these guys by any means…

i agree that they dotn need major earth shattering moves…myers is here..carrasco will become a stabl;e force at least in the rotation in the coming years…you really do win by growing yoru own talent and using trades…the yankees could sign every the top 5 free agents (which they may do) and still not make the playoffs..myers makes 12mm this year btw