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Ryan Madson and Kyle Kendrick for Ludwick. Get it done then pull out of the Peavy trade because you no longer need an outfield bat anymore so Derosa won’t help at all.

We need the arm more than we do the bat unless the FO has no confidence in re-signing Madson.

I would pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat… Madson’s “personal value” is sky-high.. after this past postseason, every team is looking at him as a guy that can hit 96-97mph on the radar gun, with “the best changeup on the Phillies”

WE know that both of those things are not true.. Madson tops out around 94-95, and he’s got a hell of a changeup, but Hamels is better.

Madson is going to go somewhere next year as a 3 year deal to be a closer, and we’ll lose out.. If Ryan Ludwick is under control for the next 2 years, make this trade, if he would also become a Free Agent, you can’t make the move

He’s almost 30, and last year was the first time he really produced, but it was also his first (maybe 2nd full season)… but guys don’t hit .300 with 35+ HRs and 100+ RBIs by accident

If you know you’re going to lose Madson next season anyway.. might as well get something in return.. and Ludwick is someone that has proved he can do it at this level, something you dont yet know about a prospect

Inquirer is reporting that Randy Wolf may be on the Phils list. I hope they are kidding.

I would trade any one of relievers for Ludwick in a heartbeat. I wouldn’t even have any second thoughts about it.

Madson and Kendrick for Ludwick… get it done. I’m pretty sure that Ludwick is 1st year arbitration eligible (2 years of service), regardless he’ll be a cheap commodity for a while. Madson is gone after this year; he would go to St. Louis and become their closer. I think that Ludwick is going to be a stud. I would prefer Ludwick and Donald/Punto (while Chase is on the DL) than Derosa or Young… and I think that would be a cheaper alternative.

Ludwick is good, but he also hasn’t done anything consistently. He had A good year. Madson + Donald would be an unconscionably steep price for an outfielder who has a good season under his belt. Madson and a throw in is the way to do this deal, and that’s the only way I would really feel comfortable about it.

Don’t you guys remember how long it took us to lock down the 8th inning last year. Why would we want to go through that all over again.

Everybody is all worked up about the fact that Madson would be leaving after this year, but wouldn’t it behoove the Phillies to keep him if it meant another World Championship before he left instead?

I also want to remind you all that all season Madson was dubbed 2 run Madson and other names to bash him, even though all season I said Madson is good this year, and now noone wants to see him go. Let him go. Juan Cruz can get the job done.

madson for ludwick would be amazing…even if you had to throw in kendrick i love it. get a great bat for the outfield for dirt cheap money for the next few years…take the loot you would have spent on a leftfielder and sign wood, fuentes or hoffman to replace madsen in the pen…god this trade would be so awesome…still leaves lot of offseason budget left to ink lowe since one of those bullpen guys prob wont cost more than5-6 per year

if its donald and madsen i think thats alot…wouldnt rule it out completely though since donald wont make his impact til either howard leaves and utley moves or if they want him to play third but you have feliz for two more years who i like for his great glove…madsen and kendrick and i do it in a second…ludwick is a nasty hitter with pop to all fields

There can’t be a Madson for Ludwick deal. the phillies would be nuts not to jump on that, Madson of what I have seen folds as a closer, only last miracle year did he have success. You can find a replacements for madson a guy who throws hard for one inning. They have one in the minors now Swimmer is like that Knapp is another but two years away Drabek has a chance too .