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> <channel><title>Comments on: Thoughts On Derek Lowe</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 20:28:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Memphis</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61933</link> <dc:creator>Memphis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61933</guid> <description>I&#039;m not sure Myers&#039; value is at his highest right now. I mean, wasn&#039;t he just in the minors this past year trying to figure things out? Someone like Madson, that&#039;s a sell high. Myers? He certainly did his part down the stretch and in the playoffs, but as you say -- he&#039;s inconsistent. Your imaginary deal actually sounds like you&#039;re just getting what you can for him.That said, I&#039;d rather have Myers than Moyer. I prefer the young power arm. If we somehow were able to get Lowe (not counting on it), I&#039;d keep Myers and let Moyer go. I think Moyer is a much bigger risk in &#039;09 than Myers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Myers&#8217; value is at his highest right now. I mean, wasn&#8217;t he just in the minors this past year trying to figure things out? Someone like Madson, that&#8217;s a sell high. Myers? He certainly did his part down the stretch and in the playoffs, but as you say &#8212; he&#8217;s inconsistent. Your imaginary deal actually sounds like you&#8217;re just getting what you can for him.</p><p>That said, I&#8217;d rather have Myers than Moyer. I prefer the young power arm. If we somehow were able to get Lowe (not counting on it), I&#8217;d keep Myers and let Moyer go. I think Moyer is a much bigger risk in &#8217;09 than Myers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61919</link> <dc:creator>mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:29:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61919</guid> <description>This talk about what a lowe and burnett want is exacly why its important to spend money in the draft. And why the phillie made a mistake not offering arbritation. 90 million for lowe if you spend a little more in the draft its better than overpaying for these guys. if the phillies weren&#039;t so cheap in the draft. You would have joe saunders as your number two.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This talk about what a lowe and burnett want is exacly why its important to spend money in the draft. And why the phillie made a mistake not offering arbritation. 90 million for lowe if you spend a little more in the draft its better than overpaying for these guys. if the phillies weren&#8217;t so cheap in the draft. You would have joe saunders as your number two.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Georgie</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61905</link> <dc:creator>Georgie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:24:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61905</guid> <description>Dipsy, I actually like your assessment of Brett Myers, trying to trade him now when his value is higher would be ok with me, he&#039;s just too unpredictable, you never can be sure which personality is going to show up.Oh, and I was able to get thru your entire comment since it wasn&#039;t dripping with sarcasm. Maybe it&#039;s just me, but sarcasm is kinda like booze, the f-bomb, makeup-all can be very effective, but make the greatest impact when used sparingly, imo.Georgie, the Sarcasm Police</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dipsy, I actually like your assessment of Brett Myers, trying to trade him now when his value is higher would be ok with me, he&#8217;s just too unpredictable, you never can be sure which personality is going to show up.</p><p>Oh, and I was able to get thru your entire comment since it wasn&#8217;t dripping with sarcasm. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but sarcasm is kinda like booze, the f-bomb, makeup-all can be very effective, but make the greatest impact when used sparingly, imo.</p><p>Georgie, the Sarcasm Police</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KM</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61903</link> <dc:creator>KM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:29:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61903</guid> <description>I would NOT sign Baldelli. He is currently not healthy, and only due to get worse. Maybe for a year or two he would be worth a platoon gig, but any more than that and the Phillies would be foolish to sign him.Personally, if a trade is not on the horizon, I wouldn&#039;t mind giving Dobbs a shot. If the Phils don&#039;t see Dobbs as a possibility, then as far as free agency goes, I like Ibanez, and to a lesser extent Bradley and Rivera.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would NOT sign Baldelli. He is currently not healthy, and only due to get worse. Maybe for a year or two he would be worth a platoon gig, but any more than that and the Phillies would be foolish to sign him.</p><p>Personally, if a trade is not on the horizon, I wouldn&#8217;t mind giving Dobbs a shot. If the Phils don&#8217;t see Dobbs as a possibility, then as far as free agency goes, I like Ibanez, and to a lesser extent Bradley and Rivera.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Dipsy</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61902</link> <dc:creator>The Dipsy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61902</guid> <description>ENOUGH with the Pierre talk, my god.  I understand that this is a great forum for hot stove talk and all that, and it is fun, but the right handed bat in left field is probably a guy who is not available yet and probably not a free agent.  My issue is with Brett Myers.  This is a bried synopsis of how I feel about him:Still young with a real good arm.  Great curve and a good fastball WHEN HE CAN LOCATE IT, which he doesn&#039;t way too often.  But whether its because his &quot;head is facing first base&quot; when he delivers or &quot;his arm is behind his shoulder when he throws&quot; or because he&#039;s not breathing though his eyelids or whatever he is just not able to maximize his physical gifts.  I would suspect that he is an intriguing name to other teams around the league that need a starter, and who doesn&#039;t.  But we know the truth. He&#039;s just maddeningly inconsistent.  He had a great second half and his value may have gone up.  I&#039;m not willing to bet thats this is the Brett Myers we&#039;ll see for the rest of his career merely for the fact tha I believe that past performance is the best predictor for future returns.  Logical right? And when you look at his record, its just aint that good.  So in short, I&#039;d find just ONE team (and thats all it takes) that thinks he&#039;s the guy thats ready to &quot;break out&quot; in their town for their team. Then its time to &quot;sell high&quot; on Brett.  His value is at its highest right now.  I figure you can get a solid right handed bat and a good prospect for him.  And 12m more to spend in FAgency.But thats just me.The Dipsy
Chairman of the Derek Lowe in Pinstripes Foundation</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ENOUGH with the Pierre talk, my god.  I understand that this is a great forum for hot stove talk and all that, and it is fun, but the right handed bat in left field is probably a guy who is not available yet and probably not a free agent.  My issue is with Brett Myers.  This is a bried synopsis of how I feel about him:</p><p>Still young with a real good arm.  Great curve and a good fastball WHEN HE CAN LOCATE IT, which he doesn&#8217;t way too often.  But whether its because his &#8220;head is facing first base&#8221; when he delivers or &#8220;his arm is behind his shoulder when he throws&#8221; or because he&#8217;s not breathing though his eyelids or whatever he is just not able to maximize his physical gifts.  I would suspect that he is an intriguing name to other teams around the league that need a starter, and who doesn&#8217;t.  But we know the truth. He&#8217;s just maddeningly inconsistent.  He had a great second half and his value may have gone up.  I&#8217;m not willing to bet thats this is the Brett Myers we&#8217;ll see for the rest of his career merely for the fact tha I believe that past performance is the best predictor for future returns.  Logical right? And when you look at his record, its just aint that good.  So in short, I&#8217;d find just ONE team (and thats all it takes) that thinks he&#8217;s the guy thats ready to &#8220;break out&#8221; in their town for their team. Then its time to &#8220;sell high&#8221; on Brett.  His value is at its highest right now.  I figure you can get a solid right handed bat and a good prospect for him.  And 12m more to spend in FAgency.</p><p>But thats just me.</p><p>The Dipsy<br
/> Chairman of the Derek Lowe in Pinstripes Foundation</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Memphis</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61893</link> <dc:creator>Memphis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:14:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61893</guid> <description>Look just a little deeper at Pierre&#039;s numbers: He had one of the worst OPS in all of baseball with at least 375 ABs last year (actually worse than Jason Varitek). He is just not a productive offensive player, he&#039;s actually one of the worst. He really doesn&#039;t have the goods to be a regular, on a good team at least (like the Dodgers).Worst case in LF, I&#039;d give a Dobbs/Baldelli or Dobbs/Rivera platoon a decent chance to be productive. Include Jenkins in the mix only if he&#039;s over whatever affected him in &#039;08. If it doesn&#039;t work out, make a mid-season deal (maybe for Mike Cameron, though I&#039;m lukewarm on him). The options just aren&#039;t that good right now, including Burrell. It&#039;s frustrating (I can&#039;t believe we&#039;re actually thinking of bringing Burrell back, even though it looks unlikely), but I&#039;m pretty sure Pierre is not the answer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look just a little deeper at Pierre&#8217;s numbers: He had one of the worst OPS in all of baseball with at least 375 ABs last year (actually worse than Jason Varitek). He is just not a productive offensive player, he&#8217;s actually one of the worst. He really doesn&#8217;t have the goods to be a regular, on a good team at least (like the Dodgers).</p><p>Worst case in LF, I&#8217;d give a Dobbs/Baldelli or Dobbs/Rivera platoon a decent chance to be productive. Include Jenkins in the mix only if he&#8217;s over whatever affected him in &#8217;08. If it doesn&#8217;t work out, make a mid-season deal (maybe for Mike Cameron, though I&#8217;m lukewarm on him). The options just aren&#8217;t that good right now, including Burrell. It&#8217;s frustrating (I can&#8217;t believe we&#8217;re actually thinking of bringing Burrell back, even though it looks unlikely), but I&#8217;m pretty sure Pierre is not the answer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KM</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61887</link> <dc:creator>KM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:49:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61887</guid> <description>I don&#039;t know how people can bash Juan Pierre. I will give you the facts that he doesn&#039;t walk much, and his obp isin&#039;t super high, but that is why I wouldn&#039;t bat him early in the order. He is not a power guy, he is more of a singles hitter, but with his speed a single can easily become a double. The guy is a career .300 hitter, he never strikes out, he steals a ton of bases and he has excellent range in the outfield. If his arm isin&#039;t good enough to play a corner outfield spot, then we have the flexibility to move Victorino to RF, Werth to LF, and play Pierre in CF. He would add a contact bat to the back of the order that is sub-par offensively with Feliz and Ruiz.As far as his contract goes, we could probably get him for around 6.5 million a year, because we could probably get the Dodgers to take a bit of his contract.Look, whether it be Pierre or someone else, we need offensive productivity from the LF spot. The answer is NOT another slow, right-handed power hitter who strikes out a ton, and takes months off at a time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how people can bash Juan Pierre. I will give you the facts that he doesn&#8217;t walk much, and his obp isin&#8217;t super high, but that is why I wouldn&#8217;t bat him early in the order. He is not a power guy, he is more of a singles hitter, but with his speed a single can easily become a double. The guy is a career .300 hitter, he never strikes out, he steals a ton of bases and he has excellent range in the outfield. If his arm isin&#8217;t good enough to play a corner outfield spot, then we have the flexibility to move Victorino to RF, Werth to LF, and play Pierre in CF. He would add a contact bat to the back of the order that is sub-par offensively with Feliz and Ruiz.</p><p>As far as his contract goes, we could probably get him for around 6.5 million a year, because we could probably get the Dodgers to take a bit of his contract.</p><p>Look, whether it be Pierre or someone else, we need offensive productivity from the LF spot. The answer is NOT another slow, right-handed power hitter who strikes out a ton, and takes months off at a time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61882</link> <dc:creator>mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:32:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61882</guid> <description>How can Renteria get 9 million a year. He can&#039;t hold jimmy rolling jock strap. When they do contracts don&#039;t they look at what top players are making. and then adjust the salary.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can Renteria get 9 million a year. He can&#8217;t hold jimmy rolling jock strap. When they do contracts don&#8217;t they look at what top players are making. and then adjust the salary.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RichieAllen</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61873</link> <dc:creator>RichieAllen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:33:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61873</guid> <description>OOOPS,dont make that trade.....dont want to take on Pierre&#039;s contract.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOPS,dont make that trade&#8230;..dont want to take on Pierre&#8217;s contract.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Dipsy</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61872</link> <dc:creator>The Dipsy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61872</guid> <description>Juan Pierre absolutely sucks.  And KM, you would bat him sixth?????  Whats up with that?  Is this confirmed that Boras wants 5y/90m for Lowe?  If so thats just hysterical.  So anyway.....is Freddy Garcia healthy yet? :)The Dipsy</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Pierre absolutely sucks.  And KM, you would bat him sixth?????  Whats up with that?  Is this confirmed that Boras wants 5y/90m for Lowe?  If so thats just hysterical.  So anyway&#8230;..is Freddy Garcia healthy yet? :)</p><p>The Dipsy</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RichieAllen</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61871</link> <dc:creator>RichieAllen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61871</guid> <description>Trade Juan Pierre for Eaton....the change of scenery might help both..and,.nobody loses..nobody expects anything from either one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade Juan Pierre for Eaton&#8230;.the change of scenery might help both..and,.nobody loses..nobody expects anything from either one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Griffin</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61869</link> <dc:creator>Griffin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:38:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61869</guid> <description>Juan Pierre.327 OBP, .328 SLG13 extra base hits in 119 games played.Has the worst arm of any outfielder in baseball and is therefore a defensive liability.5153 career ABs, 313 career BBsis owed $28.5 million over the next 3 yearsDodgers couldn&#039;t give him away.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Pierre</p><p>.327 OBP, .328 SLG</p><p>13 extra base hits in 119 games played.</p><p>Has the worst arm of any outfielder in baseball and is therefore a defensive liability.</p><p>5153 career ABs, 313 career BBs</p><p>is owed $28.5 million over the next 3 years</p><p>Dodgers couldn&#8217;t give him away.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61866</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61866</guid> <description>Juan Pierre, career .300 hitter, 4 seasons with over 200 hits (not counting 196 hits in 2007), 40 or more stolen bases in every single season since 2001... I&#039;d take him on my team anyday</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Pierre, career .300 hitter, 4 seasons with over 200 hits (not counting 196 hits in 2007), 40 or more stolen bases in every single season since 2001&#8230; I&#8217;d take him on my team anyday</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Griffin</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61865</link> <dc:creator>Griffin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61865</guid> <description>Juan Pierre is awful. Absolutely awful. He never gets on base, has a terrible arm and is grossly, grossly overpaid. KM, I don&#039;t think your idea is terrible, but Juan Pierre is not the answer (nor is he anyone&#039;s answer).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Pierre is awful. Absolutely awful. He never gets on base, has a terrible arm and is grossly, grossly overpaid. KM, I don&#8217;t think your idea is terrible, but Juan Pierre is not the answer (nor is he anyone&#8217;s answer).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RichieAllen</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61864</link> <dc:creator>RichieAllen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61864</guid> <description>Like I said yesterday...I know its impossible to believe..But
Lowe might actually WANT TO COME HERE.
We won the  world series for Christs Sake,we have a great team.I know its all money all the time...but I&#039;d like to see somebody say 14-16 million is enough to live on for 2-3 years..Im going to the Phils.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said yesterday&#8230;I know its impossible to believe..But<br
/> Lowe might actually WANT TO COME HERE.<br
/> We won the  world series for Christs Sake,we have a great team.</p><p>I know its all money all the time&#8230;but I&#8217;d like to see somebody say 14-16 million is enough to live on for 2-3 years..Im going to the Phils.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KM</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61862</link> <dc:creator>KM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:46:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61862</guid> <description>Interesting that you noted that Myers may be on the trade block for a Wells or Dye. Wells is a good name, but he is owed a ton. He has consistently put up good numbers, when he hasn&#039;t been injured, but not 20 mil dollar numbers. I think the Jays would have to pick up much of that contract to get that deal done. As far as Dye goes, he plays in a comparable park currently, so his number probably wouldn&#039;t skew much. He&#039;d cost a couple prospects and is in his mid to late 30s, so that may not make much sense, being that he&#039;s an aging power hitter.A name I am interested in as far as a trade goes is Juan Pierre. He makes about 9 mil a year and I am sure we could get the Dodgers to pick up some of that contract with the right deal. He is exactly the type of player that would work in our left field situation - contact hitter, with lots speed, hits for a good average, plays a good defensive outfield. Not sure what it would cost to get him, but it would be interesting to find out. He is the odd man out in the LA outfield situation, especially if they resign Manny, so they may be willing to trade him rather than have a 9 million dollar player coming off the bench.It seems that most people want a right-handed power bat to hit behind Howard, but I have a different theory. I say let Werth bat 5, and somehow acquire a left-handed contact bat with speed to hit between all the righties at the back end of the lineup. Like I said, Juan Pierre would be a nice fit - He rarely strikes out, and steals a ton of bags. He may be just what the back end of the lineup need for a spark. Here is what my lineup would look like with Pierre:
Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Werth
Pierre
Feliz
Ruiz
Pitcher</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you noted that Myers may be on the trade block for a Wells or Dye. Wells is a good name, but he is owed a ton. He has consistently put up good numbers, when he hasn&#8217;t been injured, but not 20 mil dollar numbers. I think the Jays would have to pick up much of that contract to get that deal done. As far as Dye goes, he plays in a comparable park currently, so his number probably wouldn&#8217;t skew much. He&#8217;d cost a couple prospects and is in his mid to late 30s, so that may not make much sense, being that he&#8217;s an aging power hitter.</p><p>A name I am interested in as far as a trade goes is Juan Pierre. He makes about 9 mil a year and I am sure we could get the Dodgers to pick up some of that contract with the right deal. He is exactly the type of player that would work in our left field situation &#8211; contact hitter, with lots speed, hits for a good average, plays a good defensive outfield. Not sure what it would cost to get him, but it would be interesting to find out. He is the odd man out in the LA outfield situation, especially if they resign Manny, so they may be willing to trade him rather than have a 9 million dollar player coming off the bench.</p><p>It seems that most people want a right-handed power bat to hit behind Howard, but I have a different theory. I say let Werth bat 5, and somehow acquire a left-handed contact bat with speed to hit between all the righties at the back end of the lineup. Like I said, Juan Pierre would be a nice fit &#8211; He rarely strikes out, and steals a ton of bags. He may be just what the back end of the lineup need for a spark. Here is what my lineup would look like with Pierre:<br
/> Rollins<br
/> Victorino<br
/> Utley<br
/> Howard<br
/> Werth<br
/> Pierre<br
/> Feliz<br
/> Ruiz<br
/> Pitcher</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jesus</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61860</link> <dc:creator>Jesus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61860</guid> <description>I was under the impression that Moyer made 7million in 08 after his incentives?  Can anyone confirm this?  I think it&#039;s more of years than dollars at this point.  He signed a pretty incentive laden deal last time and probably wants 2yrs guaranteed without having to hit too many incentives to hit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that Moyer made 7million in 08 after his incentives?  Can anyone confirm this?  I think it&#8217;s more of years than dollars at this point.  He signed a pretty incentive laden deal last time and probably wants 2yrs guaranteed without having to hit too many incentives to hit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61856</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:38:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61856</guid> <description>Honestly, Lowe would be crazy not to come here and play in front of feliz - rollins - utley - victorino - werth...those guys are great defensive players.  the side of the infield from utley over to feliz is clearly the best in all of baseball defensively, i mean, thats not even a debateable point really.ruben should call his bluff, boras is full of it this time, the yankees wont give aj burnett 5 years...so tehyre not going to give lowe 5 years either.  id pay 4 years 16mm a pop for lowe and thats still expensive because starting pitchers are always overpaid in free agency.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Lowe would be crazy not to come here and play in front of feliz &#8211; rollins &#8211; utley &#8211; victorino &#8211; werth&#8230;those guys are great defensive players.  the side of the infield from utley over to feliz is clearly the best in all of baseball defensively, i mean, thats not even a debateable point really.</p><p>ruben should call his bluff, boras is full of it this time, the yankees wont give aj burnett 5 years&#8230;so tehyre not going to give lowe 5 years either.  id pay 4 years 16mm a pop for lowe and thats still expensive because starting pitchers are always overpaid in free agency.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61855</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61855</guid> <description>I just read that too about Lowe... that is CRAZY.. I thought when all was said and done, he&#039;d get 4 years at like $16 M per season, which is overpaying by a lot.If you could sign him to a fair deal, you would pay him like $30-36/ 3 years...Considering CC Sabathia has offers around $100-110 for 5 years, and $140-6 years from the Yankees.. that would make Sabathia a complete steal compared to Lowe.  I hope that nobody signs Lowe to that much money, because he&#039;s just not worth it, and if someone does sign him to that type of contract, I hope to God its the Mets... because we proved we can beat Lowe.. and that would handcuff them for years to come</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read that too about Lowe&#8230; that is CRAZY.. I thought when all was said and done, he&#8217;d get 4 years at like $16 M per season, which is overpaying by a lot.</p><p>If you could sign him to a fair deal, you would pay him like $30-36/ 3 years&#8230;</p><p>Considering CC Sabathia has offers around $100-110 for 5 years, and $140-6 years from the Yankees.. that would make Sabathia a complete steal compared to Lowe.  I hope that nobody signs Lowe to that much money, because he&#8217;s just not worth it, and if someone does sign him to that type of contract, I hope to God its the Mets&#8230; because we proved we can beat Lowe.. and that would handcuff them for years to come</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-61854</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:53:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/thoughts-on-derek-lowe/#comment-61854</guid> <description>also..im not flipping otu demanding they sign sabathia or burnett..because thats a horrible idea when you have an ace..hamels..all you need is another solid productive starter, a left fielder whos productive, and some extra bullpen arms...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also..im not flipping otu demanding they sign sabathia or burnett..because thats a horrible idea when you have an ace..hamels..all you need is another solid productive starter, a left fielder whos productive, and some extra bullpen arms&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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