Winter Meetings Day 1 Wrap
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, December 09, 2008 10:53 AM | Comments: 9
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Here’s a quick wrap from a busy Day 1 of the meetings:
- The Phillies aren’t agreeing with Jamie Moyer when it comes to money. They want to give him $14M. He wants $18M. Both over two years.
- Still, the Phils want to re-sign Moyer, while also signing Derek Lowe. The free agent right-hander likes the idea of being a Phillie, but the Phils did not offer three years (it could’ve been two or four).
- Late last night in the east, the Phils jumped in on the Jake Peavy trade as a side team. They’d acquire Mark DeRosa from the Padres (traded from Chicago), while sending away JA Happ and Chris Coste. Sources close to the deal say it’s all but done, but awaiting a new Cubs owner to pull the trigger.
- The Phils spoke with Nick Punto twice, and the infielder said he’d love to play for the world champions.
- During drinks of scotch and coffee, hopefully, the Phils talked with the Cardinals about acquiring someone, likely Ryan Ludwick. It seems the Cards want Ryan Madson as a centerpiece of a deal.
- Delmon Young appeared briefly on the Phils’ radar. A trade for Jason Donald (and more) seemed plausible. Right now, Young is low on the target list. Don’t expect any further movement here.
- Finally, Randy Wolf is open to joining any team. No word on if the Phils are interested, but I’m sure the lefty wouldn’t mind returning to Philly. The Phils did, however, look at free agent righty Braden Looper.
Posts: 0 JimC
I like the Ludwick Madson swap- Madson is under team control for one more year and has made it clear he wants to close. He has publically stated on 610 that he plans to test the free agent market and has no plans on a long term deal before the season is over. We have Lidge he’s not going to come back to be the 8th inning guy. Make the trade and focus on pitching
Posted: 11:04 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 MP
I think this is a good trade too. I think Ludwick would be a great addition. Since he plays RF, would they move Werth to LF and platoon him with Jenkins in RF?
I think the whole Moyer thing is nonsense. Go up to at least 16 with him. If that doesn’t work, just give him the extra 4 mil.
Again, NO, NO, NO to Randy Wolf !!!!
Posted: 11:08 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
The Cards pretty much said that they wouldn’t make that move for the exact same reason that we WOULD make the move… He only has 1 year left and plans to test the Free Agent market.
I’d be okay with Wolf coming back.. but I’d like that if he were the 5th man in the rotation, not as a replacement for Moyer or because you don’t have Moyer or Lowe coming back
Posted: 11:10 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 Don M
Ludwick is an All-Star, and I think got some MVP votes this year (not 1st place votes or anything, but a couple top 10 votes).. you can’t get him for one year of Ryan Madson, who already said he’s testing the Free Agent market.
I’d be more interested in Happ to the Cardinals for Ludwick then giving him up to help the Cubs get Peavy, and us to get DeRosa (Vitters would be the key to that deal though.. since we lack a 3b of the future)
Posted: 11:13 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 JimC
Ya Madson wants to test the free agent market because he’s locked in behind Lidge here. He will not have a chance to close until Lidge leaves and by then he will be out of his prime. The Cardinals need a closer and should be able to lock him up
Posted: 11:25 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 Chuck P
Are we having fun yet??
We all agree that Madson/Ludwick would work for the Phils… but if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I think that the conversation probably revolved around the Braves interest in Ludwick… Amaro says, “Is there anything that we can offer you to stop this trade from happening?” Atlanta is offering Johnson and they have a 2B on the farm that can fill the void (Prado)… we have Donald and some nice relievers. If Madson was non-Boras, we could get this deal done. Actually, I’m sure that Boras would love to see the deal done as is but the Cardinals don’t gain much. 1 Year Madson is not enough… I’m sure of that. I mean, if Madson goes to STL and lights it up, he’ll be assured a huge contract next offseason. If he stays here and does well as an 8th inning guy, that’s great but he still hasn’t proven himself as a closer. F*ing Boras.
Posted: 11:42 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 MP
Just read Mets are close to signing KRod
Posted: 11:53 AM on December 9, 2008
Posts: 0 Sean P.
The madson (+ however else) for ludwick trade will never happen. Its to good to be true…..
Posted: 01:19 PM on December 9, 2008
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