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I think Ruben is waiting, but he is looking to prove himself. I see us signing Lowe, which in my opinion would be a good move to solidify that 3rd or 2nd spot depending on where you but Brett. I think the big thing this off season is to make sure we get better but at the same time have enough money to lock up and meet the arbitration numbers with guys we already have on the roster

I think we did the right thing not trying to get ourselves into bidding wars with the us debt team the yankees.We really dont need to go out and get players for the sake of getting players. The phillies should sign lowe and get a bullpen guy to replace seanez. I think a intresting trade we could make would be maybe pawn kendrick to the cardinals for ryan ludwig to play leftfield.

Rumors and WAG’s aside, we haven’t done anything… our biggest offseason moves have been to essentiall let two key components of last year’s success walk. We have gaping holes right now and no clear direction. Maybe things will work out for the better in the end but right now you have to give us a solid D (and only because we haven’t done anything to completely screw things up and we have been in the mix)… the Mets have clearly gotten better and that’s going to have an impact. Not sure if we could have done anything to stop that from happening but comparatively speaking, they saw a need and they addressed it with top tier players. Our needs are SP, LF and a power hitting RH… what are we going to do to address those needs?

LOWE/DUNN or MANNY… those are top tier players. Enough of this Derosa/Ho Park nonsense.

and i just read on mlbtraderumors.com that the fact that the yankees signed CC made the Yanks more appealing to Lowe…and that even if the yanks get burnett they will still be interested in Lowe…..It must be nice to have an infinite amount of money to spend on players….but even if the phillies did have all that money to spend ….the owners would still make the team hover around the $100-$120million mark

Phillies are already following behind and we vastly need a starting pitcher. Although the Mets bullpen has been godwhat atrocious last year, it has just amazingly improved. Damn.

I’m ok with keeping the championship team the way it is. Getting a quality starter would be rad.

For some reason, people still think the big moves win championships. Everyone thinks the yanks and mets are the new teams to beat. Amaro is being smart so far. He isn’t doing anything crazy that might cripple the franchise in the future like trading marson, donald, or carrasco or signing a $25m left fielder with bad hair and a worse attitude. He also isn’t being taken in the lf market because he knows it is deep and the price will go down. He isn’t Wade-ing around the free agent market looking to give up draft picks either unless the ideal pitcher for CBP is reasonably available (Lowe). All in all, you can’t be upset because of his lack of moves during the showy and trendy portion of the off season. You also can’t fault him for the mets dealings (how they got putz is beyond me though).

Overall, I think we’re setting ourselves up to make some solid moves. But then again, that’s all we’ve done so far is set ourselves up. Now it’s time to make some noise and show all the other clubs that we are not giving up our world title easily.

I really like our moves thus far, I just wish things could progress a bit faster than they seem to be now, but hey, that’s part of the off-season. I mean, with the economy and the amount of cash players like Burrell are looking for, they’ll have to wait it out and sign with a team for less then they desire before spring training.

Personally, I hope they sign Ibanez and Lowe.

I have a lot of trust in the Phillies front office and Ruben, though. I really believe that whatever road they take with this off-season will be for our overall best interest for years to come.

It was a good deal for Seattle, Heilman’s values low but the centerpeice of that deals Franklin Gutierrez who could be pretty good. You have to respect the Mets pen now and expect the Phillies to school up to get the upper hand on them, credit to Minaya who got lucky with K-Rod but their playing catch-up with the Phillies for a reason.

The Phillies “big move” last year was getting Lidge. And most people laughed at that one, thinking he would implode in Philly.

so far im not happy. but theres plenty of time. I think we should be trying to get younger, not trading our prospects for backups. Right now this team is in a position where sooner or later these guys will all become too expensive for them, and we dont have any one in the minors worth stepping in.

that’s just boo bird talk, the Phils have been in on Lowe as much as they can be and which other big names should the Phils have bid on? CC, Tex, Manny?

It’s they guys on this roster that’ll dictate the success next year, you always need to try and upgrade the pitching but the Phils need more out of Rollins and Howard in particular and on his day Myers is as good as Lowe or Burnett.

ey grumpy… the Mets showed plenty of emotion last year, Didn’t you see David Wright crying like a little girl who skinned her knees on the playground as they once again coughed up their playoff hopes on the last day of the season? Let Tatise, and Reyes show all the emotion they want… their starters are still suspect as is their line-up. We are still the best team in the east.

edavies…thats anembrassaing, pathetic, weak statement…you must have no confidence at all….theyre doing the same things they always do…it worked before, if theyre patient and smart in their signings and moves then theyll get back to the promised land again..

i mean really? THEY ALREADY HAVE BIG NAME PLAYERS, THEY DRAFTED AND DEVELOPED THEM ON THEIR OWN!!!! what the heck is wrong with some of you people? i was like that before, but they won, they showed that you DONT need to do what the yankees, red sox, and cubs do to win a championship…the phillies were right…does that mean they will always be right? no…but theyve earned the respect to make the moves they want to make and see how it pans out…

i really think a lot of these extreme people who SITLL think they suck have an inferiority complex of some sort….

theres a difference between showing emotion and being a total, complete, utter immature jack@$$ ….david wright is a professional, a leader, and someoone to be admired by younger players. jose reyes simply is not…plus..hes STILL no jimmy rollins….AND HE NEVER, EVER WILL BE…!

Geoff your right it worked for the Phils twice in 28 years. How many times did it work for the Yankees in the same amount of time. Dont tell me buying all-star cliber players doesnt work cause it does. It might not give you a championship every year but it puts you in aposition every year to win one.

Geoff ,glad to hear you sticking up for the current core of players..is this the same Geoff who wanted to trade the whole team last year?
Only kidding…

edavies you can’t use that twice is 28 years line straight after winning the championship, it’s a new slate now so chill out.

Mike Mike… that’s twce in 126 years… not 138.

Because it doesnt work anymore..i guarantee you that the cubs and yankees wont even get to the WS, let alone win it…the yankees getting burnett and sabathia are TERRRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE signings. both of them..sabathias contract is a huge albatroiss for an voerweight, overrated player who HAS NOT PROVEN A DAMN THING!!! he SUCKS in the postseason…totally chokes when it matters most…and theyre going to give him all that money…same with burnett who hasnt been reliable in years…

they just spent over 200mm ands till counting (if you unclude burnett) on a bunch of overrated players…

the difference between the dynasty yankees and the current squads are the type of players…the yankees signed the right players, and some role players, to win their titles..now, theyll just sign anybody who gets hyped in the media…

um..the phillies behave like almost every other team not names the angels, cubs, red sox, or yankees…….or mets….even the mets are more judicious with their money than the yankees…

and, yeah, look at all those teams that won..a 100mm payroll is enough to win if you spend it properly…i mean really..i want them to sign lowe too but not at 4 years 80 mm or whatever, 70mm. thats plain stupid….jon lieber anybody?
that whatll happen to lowe once day..oen day hes just done.;..

I don’t know who “Geoff” is anymore… but I’m pretty sure that “mike mike” must be the guy posting with the name Geoff all summer

eadvies I promise to never say they are cheap if someone can tell me how they sold themself as small market. They got the league to pay them for four straight years revenue for small markets teams. how when they are the fourth largest market.Prior to cbp being built they were 23 in payroll at 27 million they went up to 33 million with the league giving them 11-13 million that year and for the next three years there payroll went up as they got money. how did they sell it to the league. they are cheap bast##. no one wants to hear it they are blind to the fact they refuse to spend money on latin market, that they drafted players who didn;t project as high in the draft when they had extra picks and refuse to go over slot on good prospect instead let them walk joe saunders kyle gibson jd drew, brandon workman. to name a few so how can people defend them it is jus blind loyalty because they are the phillies. I love the team hate giles and montgomery, betz they are cheap Bast###.Prove me wrong.

Didn’t the Phils buy their 93 team and still lose a championship?

I think Amaro is being patient for the right reasons.
Have some faith.

Is Burrell out of the picture for good? Am I the only one that would like to see him back next year?

dude, you guys are sad, pathetic human beings…you already think they suck and theyre going to lose…because the mets overpaid for two guys and the yankees set MLB back 10 MORE years by wasting all that money,…sabathia is going to be the next barry zito..i will basically guarantee that..total fraud overrated hype monster…

all those other teams that won…they all spend money similarly to the phillies….um, and the yankees havent done a damned thing since those dynasty teams…you knwo why? because baseball doesnt work that way anymore…you need to develop your own talent and keep it…

teams that develop it and quickly trade it away (KC, pittsburgh) they cant grow together long enough to win…teams that buy it all have players with very little in common and no incentive to work hard because theyre making 20mm a year…that doesnt work either…

ever since the angels won the WS they exponentially increased their spending and since theyve done that they havent been back…the marlins wait until they have the right core of players then they fill in teh final pieces and make a run then sell it off…ok selling it off isnt cool but they wait, and they spend wisely…

the point is…wreckless idiots liek the steinbrenners are the reason why america is about to become a third world country….just spend spend spend and rack up more and more debt…idiot…

should the phillies spend more? probably could jack it up to 130mm or so..but theres no need to go insane…their payroll will shoot up to 110+ because of their arb cases anyways,…

it was just a joke because all summer long me and Geoff went back on forth the way you are doing with everyone else right now..

you are a bitter person and should seriously stop complaining about the number of total World Series such and such teams have… OUR TEAM just won it this year.. be happy