Phillies Nation

We’re falling into a trap… why do we care about bottom lines? If the name of the game as a fan is to root for your team and hope that they’re going to do everything that they can to win you a title, why shouldn’t we be upset right now? I mean, of course you want to make smart decisions but at the end of the day, I’m more worried about the makeup of my team. We have a championship team… but staying at this level doesn’t come easy and it doesn’t come cheap. To think that we can downgrade our #3 starter and our starting LF and still win a championship is crazy… Ronny Paulino?? Chan Ho Park?? Mark Derosa?? Not an upgrade over what we had… if we’re going to pass on Burrell and Moyer, show me what we’re getting in return. Right now, it doesn’t look like we’re getting much.

In a report for ESPN.com, Jayson Stark analyzes Omar Minaya’s recent bullpen additions, complete with a variety of interesting stats.

According to one long-time talent evaluator, who talked to Stark, nobody in baseball has a better tagteam than J.J. Putz and Francisco Rodriguez.

“To me, they’re the best,” the talent evaluator said, ‘and they’re not just a great duo, they’re a strikeout duo too. There won’t be many balls in play when those two guys are out there. As big as strikeouts are in the ninth inning, sometimes they’re even bigger in the eighth…The Mets can play a 21-out game now.”

Oh congrats to your championship this season, I hope you guys celebrated a few years worth of celebrations, cuz 09 will be a fresh new year.

Phillies select RHP Robert Mosebach in the major league portion of the rule V draft from the Angels. The Phillies didn’t lose anyone.

Because if they increase the payroll to $200 Million like everyone wants them too… none of us will be able to afford to go to baseball games because nosebleed seats will cost $50 each

that is why we care about their payroll, and don’t want them to overspend. How many games do you think “real” Yankees fans are going to be able to afford to go to next year… 2, 3? … meanwhile.. all the suites will be filled with people that couldn’t tell you who is at bat, what the score is, etc..

You want big name players, and crazy-high payrolls… you have to deal with everything else that comes with it

That is the stupidest logic that I ever heard. Keep the payroll down so we can go. you really said that, unbelivable. No one wants 200 million dollar payroll. just a strong committment to win and it sometimes you have to overpay for a product. then you have to do it . we need a starter and the price is high. But we need to be sure that we replace a 17 game winner and 33 hr hitter with better than park and rivera.,

thats absolutely right on don…want a high payroll? get ready to pay for it..

you see..when the government racks up infinity dollars in debt liek theyve been doing, who pays for it? we do..they raise taxes and make new taxes and the taxpayers pay for it in the pocket..badly

similarly…when a busines goes into debt who pays for it? the mployees…they have to cut back payroll and fire some people and cut back their benefits…

when a sports team racks up a huge payroll how do they compensate to meet the payroll? they jack up prices a LOT…conession a LOT…etc so WE pay for it…

where do you think this moneys coming from anyway? economics is not very hard to comprehend…

don is absolutely right…i love the flyers, favorite team…but i can only afford to o to liek maybe 5 games a year tops…

the phillies will raise payroll, because they raised ticket prices already…so youll see some increase, but not a ridiculous one..

tahts right on the money…strange waht a world series trophy will do..

People forget about Hamels, Victorino, Werth, Ruiz… those guys combined made like $4 M last year…. when Hamels is worth 4 times that, Victorino is worth 2 times that, Werth is worth that, or maybe more, and Ruiz is worth half that.

So there is your additional $30 Million that you want them to jack on the payroll

Forgive me for not giving a damn about the owners profit margins. Guys, we just won a World F*ing Championship… you don’t think those guys are making money?? We sellout every game (that’s why your beer is so expensive… supply and demand… if the seats are warm, they’re going to sell beer) and buy merchandise like it’s vital to our survival. The cost of concessions is not driven by our payroll. The vendors pay the owners to sell their Hatfield hot dogs and Chickie/Pete crabfries… This ownership has a decision to make right now. Do we retool and go at it again or do we sign some stopgaps and be happy leaning on this championship for the next five to ten years (because we’re going to fill the stands regardless of whether this team wins another WS this year). You can either take your WS checks to the bank or you can increase your budget and do what it takes to do it again. The owners will probably make more money sitting around and doing nothing… repeating is very hard… but that is not acceptable to me as a fan.