Jayson Werth Signs 2Y/$10M Deal

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, January 21, 2009 11:27 AM | Comments: 67
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CSN Philly reports the Phillies have signed outfielder Jayson Werth to a multi-year deal. Jon Heyman reports it’s a 2Y/$10M deal. Werth will earn $3M in 2009 and $7M in 2010. The Phillies have avoided arbitration with Werth; only Chad Durbin and Ryan Howard remain.

Werth had asked the Phillies for $4M in arbitration, and the Phillies originally offered $3M.

Thoughts: That almost seems too much for Werth, especially that second year. Werth improved tremendously on his career numbers in 2008, but he remains an injury risk, and still can improve on hitting right-handed pitching. Still, I like that it’s a two-year deal, as the Phils have locked in through arbitration. Werth will, however, seek a big free agent deal if he performs well, and I don’t know if the Phils would want to give him that in 2011.

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  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    I love this dude. Good for you, Werth.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Yes..goooooood. Excellent work. Im curious about the years and the dollar figures on this one because he has really significant potential value with his run production and defensive ability.

  • Posts: 0 Richie

    Another good job, Ruben! Given that it is a multi year deal, I’m sure he didn’t break the bank for him. Note that this guy prior to injury-ridden seasons with LA was a highly-coveted prospect running through their system. Good stuff, 5 tool player, no doubt.

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I’m guessing its something like a $3.5 M this year, $5 M next year, $6 M in the 3rd year = $14.5 M

    Only because I think he could get much more on the FA market next season.. eiter way this should be a good deal all around.

    Is it def 3 years, or is that just our educated guess based on the fact that the Phillies have a hard-on for 3 year deals??

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Excellent news.

    I’m predicting 3/11M. Another great signing by Amaro Jr. Anything below 12M would be great, actually.

  • Posts: 0 Ed

    Depending on what these numbers are, I have to say that Ruben has really earned his stripes in his handling of this arbitration stuff. I really did not think that he really did anything awe inspiring with his signings in the off season but that was clearly by design to try and save money so he could ink the Hamels, Madson and Werth’s to longer deals. Excellent job. I hope during the season they work out a long term deal with Victorino. ANd I hope it is more than 3 years…at this point it seems like half the team will be a FA in 3 years.

  • Posts: 0 Justin

    Its a 2 year 9 mill deal. MLB Trade rumor had the quote from Scout.com. Didn’t say anything about any options for a 3rd or possibly 4th year.

  • Posts: 0 Brett

    It’s a shame it isn’t a longer deal. I’d like to hold onto him through his prime for at least three years. It’s be nice to see him on the 100 Greatest Phils list a couple years from now.

  • Posts: 0 pb

    from MLBTR

    “Scout.com’s Chuck Hixon has a source saying it’s a two-year deal worth around $9MM”

  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    I’m extremely leary of a multi-year (3 or 4 yrs??) contract for a player who has never played a FULL season due to injuries/inconsistent hitting. He has finally stayed healthy long enough to accumulate 400 ABs (418) last season. He still has his problems with righthanded pitching (.255 BA last season; .251 for his career). so everyone here is fine with his multi-yr contract and possibly $12 million?

  • Posts: 0 Mike B.

    Overall, I think 2 y/9 M sounds about right. I do agree with you Brett in the sense that it is a shame that it’s not a longer deal, but at the same time, we’re not sure if he can start a full season. This way we’re not saddled with him if he can’t or if he gets hurt. Obviously if he excels this year, you have to consider offering him a new contract.

    It does seem like a lot of the team will be free agents in a couple of years, but that’s then – we’ve got a lot of pieces who we want to see perform over the next year or two before we sign them all to further extensions. Until then, we’ve got them, so let’s run with them.

  • Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm

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    If it’s two and $9M, it’s a pretty good deal.

  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    I agree that Werth at 3 or 4 years is risky because he has had trouble staying healthy. But Werth for two years $9 million is a good deal.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Wow thats a good cheap signing, great signing actually. wouldve likes a 3rd year but theyll be back around to negotiate an extension after next season anyway.

  • Posts: 0 NJ

    It’s amazing how the perception of Amaro is changing to be positive now, wouldn’t have happened if he was more active in FA but the boo birds dont think that way…

  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Amaro did a poor job with the Ibanez signing but has done a good job with the arbitration-eligible signings.

  • Posts: 0 Richie Allen

    I wasnt too crazy about the way Amaro brought in Ibanez for $30 mil,and didnt offer Burrell a contract(if thats true).And then again maybe Ibanez will be better for us,who can tell.
    But on these dealings with our own players,so far its been very good.And I’m an honorary boo bird myself.

  • Posts: 0 NJ

    The problem was Ibanez was always going to set the market for corner outfielders, if we’d re-signed Burrell then it would have been for a hell of a lot more than the Rays are paying unless you would have preferred Bobby or Dunn.

    Give Proferock (might have mispelt) his dues here, he’s performing his duties as good as anyone right now.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    hes done a nice job so far. hes not done yet though, this guy is very slick. i sense that hes fed up with ryan howard and is trying to trade him, which could take until july but still.

  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Getting off subject but comparing Tex to Howard- Tex got paid because he plays the game to get paid, Howard wants to get paid to play the game and that’s his ethos.

  • Posts: 0 Jason B.

    Hey Nj, nice usage of the word ethos. Must have taken a philosophy class or two. I like the fact that we have kept WErth for 2 more seasons, but I think he got paid a little too much. 10 mil over two seasons is too much, but hopefully he earns it. AS far as trading Howard, I would be all for it, provided we get ample compensation in return. However, just like Abreu and Thome, addition by subtraction in the arena of salaries may open up the option of keeping Shane and Fat Joe longer than the 1 yr deals they are both signed to while still having wiggle room to make a major offseason pick up next year.

  • Posts: 0 Jason B.

    Hell, if Ryno is asking 18 mil this season, and gets it, if he hits 45 hr and 125 rbi’s next season, he could easily be in the tier of 20 mil+ players and for the sake of my season ticket price, I don’t want anyone who costs that much.

  • Posts: 0 Doug

    This signing is great news. Jayson is starting to realize his 5-tool talent, and he plays the game the right way. Once again, management has generated a lot of goodwill with a player that everyone else gave up on. Rueben and Scott are doing a great job of keeping this core of winners together for a run at multiple WS titles…Next up is signing Durbin, which shouldn’t be difficult when you consider the two sides are only $600K apart…There will probably be a hearing for Rhyno. I would not be surprised to see him lose this battle this year. That’s the way he wants it, that’s the way he gets it.

  • Posts: 0 justin

    this is a great move. this locks him up for 2 years and im guessing ruben is hoping that one of the young minor league guys will step up and fill his stop in 2011.

  • Posts: 0 Jason B.

    Doug… Full Metal Jacket reference… Awesome. ASking for 18 mil a year? What we have here is a failure to communicate!

  • Posts: 0 the rookie

    Both of those movie quotes would happen to be from Cool Hand Luke. The second quote I preach constantly at my place of employment.

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    justin: Exactly what I thought. In 2 years one of the minor league guys could step up… so 2 yrs make a lot sense –despite the fact that I was pulling for 3yrs or more.

  • Posts: 0 shag beta sigma delta

    First off this is a great deal not too pricey and you lock him up for two years. secondly Howard is not getting traded for at least two years he has two years left of arb I think and he will go this year and next both parties know this and then maybe trade him before he becomes a FA but you never know what back to back WS titles may do to him, maybe want to stay longer.
    And way off the subject, if we could have signed Pat the bat for what Tampa gave him I don’t understand why you don’t make that deal, I heard he was asking for 4 or 5 years at 8-10 mil per. What Tampa pay him 2 years 16 million right. That would have been fair in my mind anyone privey to why Phillies did not offer him that.
    Any way I love this site and think phillies have a great chance to repeat if their bullpen plays anywhere near what they did last year. Any word on Chace’s rehab?

  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Because 16/2 wasn’t going to happen for Burrell until his options narrowed. Once a guys on the open market your hometown discounts gone until his agent crawls back.

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    If in two years we want to move Werth instead of Ibanez, i’ll be surprised… not that I don’t think Ibanez is going to put up big numbers, I think he’s going to be around the 90 RBI mark depending on where he hits in the order. But an OF of Werth, Victorino, and Taylor/Brown in LF would be way better defensively, and I think that Werth’s power numbers are going nowhere but UP in the next few years

    Ibanez will be a veteran guy, that you could move to the AL as a DH/1B, and maybe even land something in return for him…. That is way down the line though, cause Howard will probably be leaving here around that time and Ibanez in that 3rd year could maybe buy you time at 1B here.

  • Posts: 0 Joe Durbin

    Chad just texted me telling me thay agreed with Philly on a contract.
    I do not have any details other than they have agreed.

    Go Phils

  • Posts: 0 Keith

    Nice job by Amaro. I think Werth has even more to offer over last year.

  • Posts: 0 BrianD

    I hope Werth earns that $7 mil in 2010. As for Howard… Isn’t he a premiere player that A) was Rookie of the Year, B) MVP, C) 2nd to the best hitter in the game in MVP voting? I want to see D, E, F, G etc in a Philly uniform. Give him his money now!

  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    sweet, good for Chad-he deserves a nice raise for ’09. So that only leaves Howard….

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Joe, thank you very much for the update! We hope it’s a great deal for Chad and the Phillies. We appreciate you taking the time to keep us posted!

  • Posts: 0 nick


    The Inquirer has learned that the Phillies have reached an agreement with righthander Chad Durbin on a one-year, $1.635 million contract.

  • Posts: 0 JohnKruksLoveChild

    I’m sort of blown away at how well arb has gone, so far it’s met or exceeded all expectations. Kind of a bummer that Werth didn’t come into his own until 2008, otherwise we might have avoided signing Jenkins, who is a giant bench turd at this point. After that 8 RBI game, it was clear Jayson was something special, glad we locked him in.

    Only the biggest mountain remains, The Big Man himself.

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    I wasn’t too far off my 1yr/1.7M prediction… Great deal for both sides! Durbin was great, especially during the first half of ’08… I hope he can repeat this ’09.

  • Posts: 0 Joe Durbin

    He said it does not matter that it is a one year deal, because they have the rights to him for the next year too, and if a better year happens.

  • Posts: 0 dan

    amaro just keeps knockin em out

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    I think that there’s a lot of goodwill with our players, especially after the Hamels deal, which became a trendsetter. Too bad Howard isn’t joining in… definitely not digging the vibe.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Howards not inon all of this goodwill I agree, I think they told him hes out of here if they can find a trade partner.

  • Posts: 1650 Tim Malcolm

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    Thanks Joe. Good deal for Chad – I believe that was the price he was hoping for.

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I really don’t understand the notion that Howard is “at fault” or hurting team chemistry by asking for $18 M …

    I think we all agree that is way too much to pay a player, but when he looks up and sees the players that make more than he does, he’s got a very valid arguement in that if Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells, Andruw Jones etc.. make $18 M… then he should make AT LEAST that.

    Now, I personally don’t think those guys are worth that much, or that Teixira is worth $22.5 M…. but why is everyone all bent out of shape and saying he should be traded for ASKING for $18 M..

    you guys are nuts sometimes, go back and look at some game highlights and check out some of the games down the stretch… then you tell me again that you want Howard gone and Adam Dunn or some scrub playing 1b

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    not adam dunn or some scrub, but not howard either…no more strikeout machines….(which would rule dunn out too)

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Don: The thing is… that argument (Torii Hunter, Wells, etc making millions) shouldn’t even be valid. Those teams got shafted for making stupid decisions… Since when does one team (the Phillies in this case) have to be penalized because other teams made stupid decisions?

  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Those other guys make more money than Howard, because they were FREE AGENTS. Howard is still in the arbitration process and is shattering records for how much he’s asking/receiving.
    If Howard makes $18 million this year, he’ll ask for $24 mil next year and will ask for $30 mil on the free agent market.
    That’s why comparing Howard’s asking price in arbitration to how much free agents make is comparing apples to oranges.

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    That is why there is arbitration, so that players who aren’t yet Free Agents can be compensated and paid fairly.. I don’t think that Howard will win the $18 M, I think he’ll WIN $14 M instead when the case goes to the Phillies.

    I think it takes some balls to ask for that much money when you hit .250 and strikeout 200 times a season, and league the league in errors at your position… But if you also lead the league in HRs and RBIs, and carry your team when the games matter most.. ask for whatever you want.. and if you get it, i’ll be shocked… but I won’t be mad

    The player I thought would be good would be a James Loney.. somebody that hits for a nice average and can drive in runs. Well we added Raul Ibanez who does those things from a position we needed fill anyway, and people didn’t seem to like that move.. Its the realization that people on here will NEVER be satisfied, and will always find something to bitch about. I want to see Howard in Phillies pinstripes until it just doesn’t make sense to keep him any more… which to me, would be right before you lose him as a Free Agent.. until then, he’ll get paid what he deserves thanks to the arbitration process

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Right, but thats also why howard is out of line. Should other taems have to pay oliver perez more money because carlos silva stole 11m a year from seattle? NO…liekwise, the phillies should not validate comparisons to A-Rods contract. If they continue to press the phillies on this and they are forced to go to arb AGAIN like it appears, I think its ok for Ruben to wash his hands of the situtaion and trade the player.

  • Posts: 0 Bonezy

    If he would just make contact half of the times he struck out his RBI’s would be at least 40-50 more per year. Then I would agree giving him all the money in the world. Oh and if he got a clue how to play the field then he would be fine as well.

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