Phillies Sign Marcus Giles To Minor League Deal
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, January 06, 2009 10:10 PM | Comments: 102
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Troy Renck of the Denver Post reports the Phillies have signed infielder Marcus Giles to a minor league contract worth $600,000. Giles hit .229 in 2007 with the Padres, and sat out 2008 after losing out on a roster spot with the Rockies.
It looks as if Giles will get an opportunity to try out for second base if Utley doesn’t return immediately.

















Posts: 0 NJ
Thumbs up Ruben, I think he’s read the market well and though the flashy high priced names aren’t there he’s adding a very respectable buffer under the core contributors and has realised the AAA team being better is vital to the franchise. They might not be the names you like but Park, Paulino, Majerwki and Giles are about as good names as you can get to compete to fill out your roster and if the minor league eligable ones end up in LV, then guys like Carrasco and Donald are all the more improved for having guys of that calibre and experience in the same clubhouse… Over the hill maybe, nevertheless good move Jnr.
Posted: 10:32 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 IRONPIGPEN
It doesn’t do anybody any good to trying to develop players on a AAA club that can only win 55 games a season. I thought it was embarassing to the Lehigh Valley IronPigs when Jimmy Rollins was hurt, they passed over the IronPigs (Chris Woodward, Casey Smith) and took Brad Harman from AA Reading. They were right to do that, Woodward was soon cut and Smith batted a not so mighty .170 on the year. It’s obvious the Phillies are trying to avoid a repeat of last season in the International League and we here in the Lehigh Valley are glad about that!
Posted: 10:59 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 Fran
It should be a good spring training battle between him bruntlet and donald
Posted: 11:07 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 NJ
It really is a positive move when it comes to camp bodies, there so much competition for positions and last years support guys are looking behind them and seeing guys with a genuine shot to make the team.
Lets see what else Amaro picks up.
Posted: 11:32 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 IRONPIGPEN
The winner will be the Phillies!
Posted: 11:32 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
Amaro and the phrase “read the market well” made me chuckle.
Posted: 11:34 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 Chuck P
This is a good move… it gives them a little bit of insurance. To start the season, we don’t have much depth. If either Dobbs or Ibanez were to get injured before Utley/Feliz are able to return, we would be in a bit of a pickle because Bruntlett can’t play two positions. We would be forced to go with Donald… you don’t really want to put all of that pressure on a kid. I mean, you want to give him a fair chance when he’s ready but you don’t want to be forced to play him if he’s not. That could be bad in the long run.
Posted: 11:35 PM on January 6, 2009
Posts: 0 Eric
Not about Marcus Giles specifically, but I have a question bout free agent signings in general (and couldn’t find a recent post that was more on-topic :-).
I’m wondering why I never hear of contracts where the length is performance based? Some have per year performance bonuses. Some have club or player options where either gets to decide at the end of the contract’s term whether to extend another year. But I’ve never heard of an ‘n’-year contract that gets extended to n+1 years depending on performance over the first period.
Am I just not paying close enough attention, or is there some rule against that or am I missing something that makes either teams or players not interested in something like that?
Obviously, players would have the incentive to make the performance metrics as low as possible, and the team to have them higher, but that’s what negotiation is for. Especially for really expensive, aging, players (eg Manny) where a team’s biggest worry is an injury leaving them with a huge payroll gap for years. I’d think at least some of those players would be agreeable to something that basically says, “3 years, or 4 if you’re still healthy, starting, and keep up a reasonable batting average.”
Hope this isn’t considered thread hijacking… If so, then I propose we do the above with Marcus Giles, how about that? Just kidding..
Posted: 01:31 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Phillies Phan SC
I saw this guy play – bring him on!
Posted: 01:34 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 jan
sick move!!
Posted: 01:39 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 hamels' left hand
Utley’s hip or not, I still think Giles has about a 2% chance of being on the opening day 25. He’s done. Cooked. Out of baseball in ’08. Rapidly declining OPS+ in the two years prior to that.
Posted: 01:56 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Jim
anyone see the daily show last night and the stab at the mets. great stuff
Posted: 02:41 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Groty
Eric, that’s where Option years come in
Posted: 02:54 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike B.
29 and almost out of baseball? He used to be really good – I remember he always killed us when he was with the Braves. Was he on steroids, or did he get hurt, or what?
But then again, I said that Werth was washed up too. Good things happen when I’m wrong. Those last two years of declining OPS+ happened when a) he didn’t want to bat leadoff with Atlanta and b) he had to bat at Petco Park with the Padres. And he had no one else to hit with him then. Really interesting blog that highlights this stuff at http://mopupduty.com/index.php/marcus-giles-released-what-happened/
So a turnaround is possible. But if not, it’s not like we’re stuck with him all season – I hope. Basically, a classic scrap-heap move that we’d see from Pat Gillick that could yet band us a much-needed right-handed bat off the bench.
Posted: 05:59 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 IRONPIGPEN
I hope the guy is not another piece of junk like Chris Woodward.
Posted: 06:46 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
This guy will be a great addition…to the Iron Pigs. I doubt hell make the phillies to start the year.
Posted: 10:53 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Don M
This is AMAZING.. I was fully expecting to come on here and read all kinds of comments about how this was a terrible move and Amaro sucks, etc.. Thank you guys for starting my day on a positive note!
All this is, is some insurance… Bruntlett could play 2b while Utley is out, but that limits what you can do if someone else goes out for a stretch.. its just a move to add some depth.. Giles comes from a baseball family, has natural talent, and either was juicing or just didn’t work hard enough to stay in the game… but he’s got experience, and I believe we are 100x more likely to see him here than Jason Donald
Posted: 11:30 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
GREAT PICKUP GUYS……..AWSOME AWSOME PICKUP. 229 IN 07, AND THEN LOST A JOB IN COLORADO, A HITTERS BALLPARK BY THE WAY…I LOVE THIS DEAL ; )
Posted: 11:30 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
this is one of those situations where you bombard the position with 3,4,5 possible guys to fill it and see what happens in spring training. one prospect, a backup, a veteran depth chart signing, etc. giles would be a nice mentor for people in AAA too and make it a more competetive team if he doesnt make the big club.
Posted: 11:43 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Don M
phills these nutz… (yea, that’s right, with a “z” at the end). Is a Mets fan I guess??
Shame we couldn’t get the great LUIS CASTILLO as a 2b, he’s a hell of player, and hardly steals any money at all
Posted: 11:50 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Don M
I read yesterday that the Dodgers were still talking to Manny (eventhough they pulled the 2 yr/$45 M offer..) I never knew they pulled it off the table.. but assuming he goes to the Dodgers or the SF Giants.. where does that leave other guys.
Abreu and Dunn are still out there.. I think Abreu would be a great fit for the Angels, …I thought he would go to Oakland because they value his high OBP%, but it looks like they’re getting Giambi to come back?
Anyone have any input of the remaining Free Agents we haven’t talked about much?
Posted: 11:55 AM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
you know what Don, you absolutly right, as a Met fan i can truely say….Luis Castillo sucks, but at least he bats 249…lol…oh wait, i cant compare 2008 stats cuz giles wasnt even playing in 08…sorry, 07 castillo batted 296, while giles batted 229…but seriously, Giles days are behind him, and you guys just signed him to a minor league contract so i wouldnt even get your panties to wet on that one, he’s just a rental till Utley gets back..so i wouldnt sweat that signing..
and yes i am a Met fan!!! and a GIANTS FAN TOO…..; )
Posted: 12:04 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
The nationals might use some of our tax money to go after adam dunn. i think he makes sense for them actually. i think the giants might get desperate and make a big offer for manny.
i keep reading on mlbtr that the guy who runs that particular site is amazed that no team has given derek lowe 4 years 70+ mm yet.
like: hey, are you freaking kidding me? thats a HUGE amount of money to give one guy. even desperate teams like the mets and braves havent done that yet, and thats telling you something.
Posted: 12:05 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
Giambi signs for one year 4.5 million. Amaro really misread the corner outfield/DH market when he signed Ibanez.
Posted: 12:22 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
i really dont see lowe getting 4 years at that amount, that guy is a realible starter and all, but i dont see teams giving a guy in his mid 30′s a 4 year deal…im sure he will get two years with options…but no team is gonna give him 4 years…
Posted: 12:23 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
giambi cant play corner outfield….he would be utterly useless here. he would be the flat out worst signing they could possibly make.
Posted: 12:23 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
two years with an option is perfect for lowe…even if you wanna bump up the avg salary a bit just to get the two years, tahts ok. btu you gotta be crazy to guarantee 4, even 3 guaranteed years is too much in my opinion
Posted: 12:27 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Phil
I know this is totally off topic, and it may have been posted already, but I heard that today on 610 Phillies fans were calling saying they hope the Eagles lose on Sunday, then were saying how they think Eagles fans are so obnoxious and arrogant, and how the Eagles don’t deserve a championship. They are also concerned about if the Eagles win they’d go back to being the teams city and the Phillies championship will be in the shadow of the Eagles superbowl win. I agree. I thought I was the only Phillies fan that hates the Eagles and their fans. Not like the avg fan that likes all Philly sports teams, but their “fans.” I’m sure you all know exactly what I’m talking about. I also hate the teams front office and management. I have nothing against the players and would be happy for them if they won, but that’s about it.
Posted: 12:28 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Phil
cities team* my bad on that typo.
Posted: 12:30 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
Eagles Fans are the worse man….lol
Posted: 12:33 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
Geoff, Ibanez can’t play corner outfield either. I don’t think people understand how truly awful a fielder Ibanez is. He’s a DH, just like Burrell was last year.
Posted: 12:35 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
let me clarify something…Eagles fans are thworse, but the eagles are a good team playing good football right now, and trust me, the Giants know this, and the Giants will be ready….
Posted: 12:35 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Don M
I’m a Philadelphia sports fan… with the Phillies as my #1, Eagles #2, and Flyers #3… but I get hyped for each big game, and playoff run.. I HATED when there used to be Eagles chants at Phillies games, but I heard from numerous sources that there were “LET’S. GO. PHIL-LIES!” chants at Eagles games this year, so that’s pretty cool..
And i’ve been at Phillies games where they posted Flyers scores and the crowd went nuts..or NUTZ, depending on how you spellz dat.
I want the Eagles to win, I’m just tired of the whole McNabb got booed on draft-day, Reid never answers questions, etc.. they are a joke, but I like watching football, and they are my team, so I want to see them win..
Posted: 12:37 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
Im not going to root against the Eagles…it would be nice if they won. However. they do EVERYTHING the complete opposite than the way youre normally supposed to do it. They pass when you should run, run when you should pass, go for it when you should punt and vice versa. they act like they won the superbowl. and their loyal contingent of the citys fans keeps selling out games even though they havent come close to winning in years. since 2004 they havent even looked like they have a prayer of winning it all. and i cant really support a team that behaves like that. if they win tahts great.
their fans, many of them, actively root against other philadelphia teams and only support the eagles. thats disgraceful. they are by far the dumbest, worst fans in sports. not the “philadelphia” fan, but the “die hard eagles-only” fan.
they complain and complain and complain but keep pouring their paychecks into that team year in and year out with no respect from the front office in return and no parades to show for it.
as distant as the phillies front office may seem at times, they rewarded their fans with a championship parade and they keep ticket prices at a somewhat reasonable level.
Posted: 12:40 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Matt Kwasiborski
It is quite surprising that 2 of the top players of the 2004 Red Sox are still free agents. Players in their mid-30s are having a hard time finding deals (unless you are Ibanez) that are suitable to them. I thought Manny would sign and then set the market. Instead Ibanez, Burrell and Bradley have all signed before him. Personally, I would love to see either Manny or Lowe come here for 3 years max and keep our core (starting to age soon) in major contention.
Posted: 12:41 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Matt Kwasiborski
Oh, and I hate Marcus Giles too but it is a solid signing for insurance reasons.
Posted: 12:41 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
well if youre so certain ibanez cant field and will play 1B, then maybe theyre secretl;y trying to trade ryan howard (which makes no sense) to clear room for other things on teh payroll…..are there any secret trades that yorue not telling us about there?
Posted: 12:43 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
manny hasnt signed because any team that gives him the deal hes looking for is flat out stupid.
Posted: 12:44 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Don M
Ibanez may be an awful fielder.. but he’s a better hitter than Burrell so that move is an upgrade no matter how you look at it.
Just happened to be looking at the MLB player rankings by position this morning.. I though Cole Hamels would be top 5 for SP, but he’s actually #8 (santana, sabathia, lincecum, webb, halladay, haren, peavy, hamels, lackey, beckett in the top10)
OF… Ryan Braun is in the top spot (MVP in waiting)… Victorino is #29, Raul Ibanez is #34, Werth is #43…. Pat Burrell is #53
Rollins is the #3 SS (Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes, Rollins)
Lidge is the #6 Closer??? (Papelbon, Nathan, F-Rod, Rivera, Soria, Lidge)
Some of the lists I really agree with, some I think are awful
Posted: 12:44 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Georgie
Phil, I consider myself an Eagles, Flyers and Phillies fan, I don’t see why you can’t follow all of them and wish them all well. There’s always going to be that contingent of fans that are unruly and obnoxious, espcially in football (maybe too many guys in one place taking 60-oxo-extreme). But the Eagles players themselves have worked hard to get this far without much, if any, help from Andy and the FO. Donovan practically BEGGED for some offensive pieces this past offseason, to no avail. I hope the Eagles kick the Giants’ butts on Sunday, I would love to see Brian Dawkins in particular win a Superbowl before he retires.
Posted: 12:45 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Justin
If nothing else he adds another bat to Lehigh Valley, who actually seems to have a half decent team brewing. Hopefully Giles can muster up some sort or season like he had in 03 and 04 maybe he just needs a competitive team to give him the edge back that he lost.
Posted: 12:47 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Jonathan Atwood
Giles is a huge pickup as a legitimate bench guy. I like what Amaro has done so far.
On a serious note, we over at http://www.hotstovephilly.com have started an online petition to get JC Romero reinstated. We urge every Phillies fan, as well as every sports fan, to head over to http://www.hotstovephilly.com/2009/01/06/reinstate-romero/ and follow the link to the petition.
We have to stand up for Romero, the Games 3 and 5 winner of last year’s World Series, and the best reliever in that bullpen outside of Lidge. Lets show him what the PhilliesNation is made of!
Posted: 12:49 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
theyve also been hoarding relivers for that LHV bullpen
Posted: 12:51 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
No, Ibanez will play a crappy leftfield for the Phillies and hit 5th in the lineup after Utley and Howard, ensuring that Howard will never face a RHP in the late innings.
Burrell signing a two year deal and Giambi signing a one year deal make the Ibanez signing look worse and worse.
Posted: 12:53 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
don, now why are you so concern with my “NUTZ”??
Posted: 12:54 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Phil
I’m not saying Phillies fans shouldn’t cheer for the Eagles, when I say Eagles fans I mean those psycho path die-hard birds fans that chant E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES everywhere they go and call 610 in the middle of May to talk about the Eagles. They are all insane and are part of the reason Philadelphia sports fans are so hated on.
Posted: 12:58 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Phil
Why is everyone making such a big deal about the Giambi signing and comparing it to the Ibanez signing? Ibanez is a better fielder than both Giambi and Burrell combined, and Giambi is a washed up ex roids using has been.
Posted: 12:59 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
Ibanez received an extra $25 million guaranteed than Giambi did. Giambi’s contract is good value, whereas Ibanez’s contract is not.
Posted: 01:03 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
dude, why do you even care about giambi? hes TOTALLY worthless to this team.
also…hitting ibanez 5th is flat out INSANE. theres no way. the only real place for him in teh lineup with a healthy utley is 6th.
rollins – vic – utley – howard – werth – ibanez – feliz – ruiz – p
theyve limited what their lineup can be with the ibanez signing, but hes still a better contact hitter than burrell. so i dont really understand what the problem is here. victorino is at CF and hell cover ibanezs flank because he knows werth can cover his flank too. they may have paid a bit too much…but milton bradley is a turd, burrell is slow and inconsistent, giambi isa piece of steroidal trash. adam dunn is the same thing as howard except not nearly as good. texeira wanted too much money, abreu is a no go. i mean, there arent too many other REAL options out there who are better fits for this team. they tried to trade for derosa who wouldve fit better but it didnt fly..
Posted: 01:03 PM on January 7, 2009
Posts: 0 phill these nutz
on a side note, Don M, are these the 09 MLB.Com Fantasy rankings?
Posted: 01:03 PM on January 7, 2009