Beltran wants Mets to ‘kill’ Cole Hamels
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, February 18, 2009 12:20 PM | Comments: 154
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Carlos Beltran spoke to reporters in Port St. Lucie, and offered this quote about Cole Hamels, who was baited into agreeing that in the past two seasons, the Mets have been choke artists:
“The only thing that I know is he will be watched every time he faces us. Hopefully we kill him, and then he’ll have to deal with the situation.”
And as the world turns …
















Posts: 0 Kevin
Thats one thing Phils and Mets fans can agree on… this blog is definitely better.
Posted: 01:57 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner
Kev….its a Phillies fan page,and yet also its a free fan forum as well,and if certain fans want to make quintessential assess of themselves,so be it.If Tim wanted this to be an ONLY Phillies fans website,he’d have had people apply and offer them a secret password to join.Now I am a Platinum card carrying Mets fan and never will be a fan of the Phillies,that doesnt mean I can’t voice an opinion.I come in here almost everyday,INCLUDING thru your playoff run,gave them the respect when it was called for and hope to say one of the well respected Mets fans in here and will continue to vent in here.As the great Ric Flair once said it Kev. “Whether you like it,or you don’t like it,learn to love it”
Posted: 01:58 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 mets09
PhilsFans, they just one the world series. Im pretty sure there the champs until someone else wins ,but whatever. Also if you dont think that if the Mets fans won you wouldnt be throwing that card at Phillies, your nuts.
Posted: 01:59 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Kramer
definitely better than metsblog?
HA DOES THIS BLOG HAVE A DEAL WITH THE TEAMS REGIONAL SPORTS NETWORK?
THE ONLY THING BETTER IS HOW THIS BLOG DOSNT MODERATE LIKE EVERY FREEKIN COMMENT!
Posted: 02:00 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 mets09
i ment philsfans=clueless
Posted: 02:04 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 PhilsFans=Clueless
Too many people in Metsblog…2008 World Championship is in Pittsburgh.
Posted: 02:04 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Kevin
“HA DOES THIS BLOG HAVE A DEAL WITH THE TEAMS REGIONAL SPORTS NETWORK?”
maybe not, but it does give us news about a better baseball team.
Posted: 02:05 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
Hey David W,
Nice Hamels stats. How about this: 2008 Post-Season: 5 games, 4-0. Johan Santana: 0 games, no record.
Who’s consumed with who?
Posted: 02:08 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
Kramer, I hope there’s a brawl too. Ryan Howard will wreck anyone on your roster, and Brett Myers is a golden gloves champ. Have fun with that.
Posted: 02:11 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 PhilsFans=Clueless
Howard will wreck anyone? Is this WWE? Brett Myers a golden glove champ?? Did he earn does when he beat his wife…?
Posted: 02:15 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 SJ Mike
Why is it that Hamels gets baited repeatedly to say “choke artists” by the WFAN crew and it is the “Phillies consumed about the Mets.” Since then, I don’t think any of the Phils have said a word, and now this past week 4 different Mets are coming out talking about the Phillies.
You should check out Metsblog.com. Big post there saying how the Phillies are consumed by the Mets.
Posted: 02:16 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
Also, I love this, “New York>>>>>>> Philadelphia” crap. Listen, I live inbetween the two, love going to both. It’s never a bad time. New York sports though aren’t up to par of late:
-We won the world series, you didn’t have a playoff game.
-The Eagles ended the Giants season.
-The Sixers are world better than the Knucks.
-The Flyers, Rangers, and Devils are tight, as usual, but it’ll end up like last year, with us as the last man standing.
Posted: 02:16 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
PhilsFans=Clueless,
Yes, a brawl would pretty much resemble WWE. Myers actually won the Golden Gloves before the match with his wife…
Posted: 02:18 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
before anyone starts saying that this is a rivalry..its not a rivalry yet…all it is is 4 or 5 grown men taking jabs at each other…once there is a brawl or once they phillies or mets start winning more than one world series…than we can talk about being a rivalry….i believe that this year there will be a fight..me personally…and with the whole we won the world series and mets fans on here saying thats the past..if thats the case then you cant be talking about how we beat them head to head last year…bottom line is that its a new year…you give the phillies their credit…blah blah blah…mets have to beat them…they very well can…and in my own opinion even with the phillies winning the world series i still dont think they are better than the mets…
Posted: 02:18 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Grrrumpy Miner
Its great to see everyone throwing salvos at one another when it comes to this newly budding rivalry.For at least the next 40 days and 40 knights its gonna be a war of words.Philles won the 2008 title,understand it Mets fans and accept it.2009 is another animal.Starting April 5th (4th for the Phils) its a clean slate and for those who use “Team to beat” 5 words come to mind “SHUT UP AND PLAY BALL”
Posted: 02:18 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
We should’ve kept Rudy Seanez around just for on-field fights.
Posted: 02:21 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
now rich…come on…if you are able to say phillies won the world series..we can say giants won the superbowl…i mean come on thats just brutal argument…and the 76ers and knicks both blow…i mean come on…thats your argument?
Posted: 02:21 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 PhilsFans=Clueless
It is a rivalry. Both teams are playing well at the same time and they play each other like 18 to 19 times a year. The hatred just add fuel to the fire. I never cared about the Phils and Mets matchup til 2007 and suddenly Phillies fans emerged from no where with thier big mouths like they weren’t the most losing team of all time.
Posted: 02:21 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Kevin
phillyhater- you may be in denial. look into it.
Posted: 02:21 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Tyler
philsfans=clueless… i believe the super bowl took place in ’09, nice try tho
Posted: 02:24 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Phillyhater, you’re right. Giants won the Superbowl which is why you don’t see any Eagles players claiming the Eagles the team to beat.
Posted: 02:24 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Stink
Both teams just need to shut up and let the play on the field do the talking but if you want a national perspective on ny baseball when it comes to the mets and yankees just go to youtube and search colin cowher mets
Posted: 02:24 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 David W
cmon rich, are you gonna sit here and tell me Cole is better then Johan?? im mean seriously i think hammels is good…(not so good vs Mets) but he’s good….you guys couldnt touch Johan last year….dont make me get Johan vs Phils in 08…..actually let me do it to you
08 Johan starts vs Phills…
Games Started 5
2-0 2.97 ERA with 32 Ks WHIP 0.94
Posted: 02:24 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
how is this a rivalry?…are you kidding me?…because they throw words around and sa we are the team to beat?…please…not only that….the media basically presses the players to say something stupid to blow it out of proportion?..come on…this whole mets/phillies “rivalry” is stupid…because its not one….call me when they fight on the field and start throwing at each other…until then shut up and play ball..
Posted: 02:25 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
hahaha no chase but i do hear philly fans saying giants suck and eagles are a whole lot better…come on..
Posted: 02:26 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 David W
but im with stink….let the fans do all the talking on the boards and let the players do their thing on the field…i just wanted to bust your balls posting everything I posted earlier this morning….AND IT WORKED….LOL.
Posted: 02:26 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
will it turn into a rivalry?..yes at some point in the not so distant future…but in order for it to be a rivalry you need to have some fights in there…which again i see it happening this year some time
Posted: 02:29 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
Phillyhater, you sure did win a super bowl. Your last game was a loss to the Eagles though. So, that would mean the Eagles ended the Giants season. As for the Sixers, they have the best record in the NBA over the last 20 games, and now are competing for 4th-5th in the east, in other words, a home series. That’s a lot better than the Knucks.
As for us being better than the Mets, we won the division by a game in 2007, then by 3 in 2008, and the World Series the same year. They haven’t had a playoff game in 2 years, there’s no discussion really until they get in too. I’d go on to say we’re better than your other NY team too, who hasn’t won a division since 2006, and hasn’t seen the World Series since 2003.
Posted: 02:29 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
thats where i draw the line…ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!!….you are that arrogant after winning ONE WORLD SERIES TITLE IN 100 YEARS!?!?!!?….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA….oh my god…WOW….every philly fan on here should yell at you for even thinking of comparing the phillies to the yankees…are you serious?…i hate the yankees more than anything…but to actually think about comparing the phillies to the YANKEES!?!?…are you kidding!?!?!…
Posted: 02:32 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Kevin
you’re probably right… its not a rivalry. at least not an exciting one.
you would actually need TWO competitive teams to have a good rivalry.
Posted: 02:32 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 PhilsFans=Clueless
PhillyHater…Braves/Mets was a rivalry…maybe not base on winning but sometimes hatred and when someone gets the best out of you creates the rivalry. If it wasnt a rivalry then why does everyone stop to watch????
Posted: 02:32 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
C’mon, ALL teams have stupid and reactionary fanbases. I only care what the players do and say and I saw Eagles players give nothing but respect to the Giants. This is a baseball blog and aside from Pelfry on the FAN yesterday, I haven’t heard a single Met say “well, they just won the World Series and we collapsed so I mean, we’re really in no position to talk.”
Posted: 02:33 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
thats what everyone talks about…you people win a world series title and then start comparing your team to everyone else…the YANKEES?…oh my god…
Posted: 02:33 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Stink
If fans want to talk trash to eachother and debate whos better and so forth thatscool, because thats the nature of any fan, The players should just worry about what goes on the field, and I personally think a lot of this trash talk between the teams is getting over hyped by the media in both cities, the only thing people are talking about with the yankees is arod, so the ny media probably wants another story to distract baseball fans from that and if you life in philly you know that the philly media will try to make a big deal out of anything, just look at donovan mcnabb, anything that has come out of his mouth the last month has been turned into some huge contraversy
Posted: 02:33 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
David W,
That’s great. How great of a pick up was he? You didn’t make the playoffs, missing by a game again. Same reasons as you will this year too, not your bullpen, but your crappy rotation.
Your regular season stats are worth squat. Santana could go 6-0 and against the Phillies, and Hamels 0-6 against the Mets. Make the playoffs, let’s see Santana match what Hamels did in the clutch, and we’ll talk.
Posted: 02:34 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Richie Allen
One observation….Any article about Phila -vs- Mets negative comments,and there is a guaranteed post explosion.
Posted: 02:34 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Tyler
phillyhater- its only been 28yrs
Posted: 02:34 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Jason B.
New York is the greatest city in the world? Please. Historically, New York City was a safe haven to British Loyalists. Until Guliani’s administration, NYC was a safe haven for scumbags. If New York had it’s way historically, we’d be typing with British accents, waiting for our 4 oclock spot of tea, while smack talking about cricket and not baseball. New York is a s- hole. Philadelphia is, among other things, THE BIRTHPLACE OF OUR COUNTRY. Trump that scumbags.
Posted: 02:35 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Additionally, and this is really splitting hairs, but the Phillies have won two World Series in the past 100 years and have appeared in more World Series’ than the Mets since 1980 which is really as far back as any of you need to be concerned with.
Posted: 02:36 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
who is everyone?…mets fans and phillies fans?…yankees/red sox or rivals…thats a rivalry…talk to me when they start being like that…when they start chucking at people…when the catcher has to separate players….i mean come on…ohhhh wow….and kevin..lol….just because the mets collapsed twice in consecutive years…it always came down to the wire…they are competetive..they just choke…so…
Posted: 02:36 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 PhilsFans=Clueless
You know its a rivalry if you can make valid arguments its a rivalry…tell Rollins and Beltran its not a rivalry.
Posted: 02:37 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Kevin
Rich just said that the Phils could beat the Yankees, which I agree they could… if you’re calling that a comparison, then thats on you.
I didn’t see any comparisons made, maybe I overlooked it.
Posted: 02:37 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Not just collapsed, but COLLAPSED. The biggest COLLAPSE in baseball history (a record previously held by the Phillies, thanks for taking that off our plate, chumps.)
Posted: 02:38 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Stink
Comparing the two cities is pointless, were all part of the same country were all dealing with how shitty this country is right now, its not like new york isnt facing the same problems as philly or d.c or any other city, why don’t peope just stick to baseball when it comes to trash talk why does it matter on what city is better
Posted: 02:38 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
rich…how can you compare santana to hamels?…because of the post season?…i dont understand you guys have a crazy run in the post season and you deem yourselves as high as the yankees….come on..its a world series…congrats…but its a new year….i dont understand how
you can compare santana to hamels (after ONE year)
you can ever think to compare yourselves to the yankees (after ONE year)
Posted: 02:40 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Kevin
theres a difference in competing for a championship and competing for a playoff spot.
Posted: 02:40 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase Mutley
Wait, who compared the Phillies to the Yankees?
Posted: 02:43 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 phillyhater
Kevin : Rich said this:
I’d go on to say we’re BETTER than your other NY team too, who hasn’t won a division since 2006, and hasn’t seen the World Series since 2003.
the fact that hes pointing out the stats of their post season pretty much implies that he is comparing the two…thank you..
and stink i agree…thats just pointless…its a baseball blog…not a historical blog..
Posted: 02:44 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 Rich
David W,
No it didn’t work. You guys got Johan last year, and still finished 1 game out of the playoffs. He didn’t change anything, because your starting pitching after him remains weak, even this year.
Further, I don’t care if Hamels is 0-6 against the Mets, and Santana 6-0. Santana has NEVER done what Hamels did last season, win a World Series MVP. Until he does, this isn’t even a discussion. I’d take a Josh Beckett, Cole Hamels, Andy Pettite type over Santana any day. That’s not to say he was bad last September, he was not, but he wasn’t enough. The guys I mentioned would never leave after 8 innings for fear of being “hurt” in a big game.
Posted: 02:44 PM on February 18, 2009
Posts: 0 PhilsFans=Clueless
Rivalry only includes two teams….not the the whole MLB….you don’t make sense. If both Fan base stops to watch then yes its a rivalry….what makes a rivalry the team or the fans??? Its the Fans…if it wasnt why would each fan base make there way to the other club stadium….the passion for baseball between the two is great resulting in rivalry.
Posted: 02:46 PM on February 18, 2009