Comments on: K-Rod Gets Into The Rivalry http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Fri, 25 May 2012 19:00:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-2/#comment-72393 Don M Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:30:17 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72393 Are three Mets fans just having back-and-forth conversation on HERE instead of Metsblog because Metsblog sucks so bad, or what? This is getting weird..Basically any real baseball fan knows that both of these teams has the talent to win the NL East, the NLCS, and the World Series..If you are a Phillies fan, we're probably LEAST certain with our starting rotation, but like it more than we did going into 2008.. so that is a positive.If you are a Mets fan, you probably are LEAST certain about your Middle Relievers from the bullpen.. and your starting rotation is nothing great either... your SuperStar players have yet to really lead the team anywhere, and gave the NL East away the past two years. How you can be 100% confident in this group, I really don't know..With that said.. that is why this is the greatest time of year... fans of at least half the teams in baseball have to feel like their team has a shot to win the World Series.. and that preseason hope and excitement makes baseball such a great sport to follow.Hopefully this rivalry will continue for a few years, its getting good Are three Mets fans just having back-and-forth conversation on HERE instead of Metsblog because Metsblog sucks so bad, or what? This is getting weird..

Basically any real baseball fan knows that both of these teams has the talent to win the NL East, the NLCS, and the World Series..

If you are a Phillies fan, we’re probably LEAST certain with our starting rotation, but like it more than we did going into 2008.. so that is a positive.

If you are a Mets fan, you probably are LEAST certain about your Middle Relievers from the bullpen.. and your starting rotation is nothing great either… your SuperStar players have yet to really lead the team anywhere, and gave the NL East away the past two years. How you can be 100% confident in this group, I really don’t know..

With that said.. that is why this is the greatest time of year… fans of at least half the teams in baseball have to feel like their team has a shot to win the World Series.. and that preseason hope and excitement makes baseball such a great sport to follow.

Hopefully this rivalry will continue for a few years, its getting good

]]> By: Rickhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-2/#comment-72390 Rick Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:19:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72390 yawwwwwnnnn............... yawwwwwnnnn……………

]]> By: Grrrumpy Minerhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-2/#comment-72217 Grrrumpy Miner Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:21:11 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72217 I said it B4 on another page....I think the Anchovies are a year away.Great budding rotation,but they need a HUGE difference maker to compliment Dan Uggla.Only question is,IF the Anchovies are in contention A-Do the fans show up,and B-If the Marlins win it all again;do they trade everyone away like years past and put another inept team to defend their world title. I said it B4 on another page….I think the Anchovies are a year away.Great budding rotation,but they need a HUGE difference maker to compliment Dan Uggla.Only question is,IF the Anchovies are in contention A-Do the fans show up,and B-If the Marlins win it all again;do they trade everyone away like years past and put another inept team to defend their world title.

]]> By: RealMetsFanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-2/#comment-72170 RealMetsFan Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:45:11 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72170 OH!!! and another thing, The Phillies and the Mets are going to be in for a rude awakening when the Marlins bite them both in the arse and win the division. Why? Because the Phillies and the Mets are the team to beat. They're so concerned with each other comments, that the most dangerous team in MLB is waiting to strike, and take that division. How about all you Phillies and Mets chew on that. Be very careful. OH!!! and another thing, The Phillies and the Mets are going to be in for a rude awakening when the Marlins bite them both in the arse and win the division. Why? Because the Phillies and the Mets are the team to beat. They’re so concerned with each other comments, that the most dangerous team in MLB is waiting to strike, and take that division. How about all you Phillies and Mets chew on that.
Be very careful.

]]> By: Grrrumpy Minerhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-2/#comment-72150 Grrrumpy Miner Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:32:15 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72150 Mets09 I have a hunch that Lidge MIGHT blow a few saves this season,But the Lidge of 08 will be and is a FACT.He was flawless and I think it stinks,but it is what it is. Mets09 I have a hunch that Lidge MIGHT blow a few saves this season,But the Lidge of 08 will be and is a FACT.He was flawless and I think it stinks,but it is what it is.

]]> By: mets09http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72116 mets09 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:49:02 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72116 Yea, I know that ,but what I am saying is thats not gonna happen again. Closers blow games, and Lidge isnt the invinsible God they seam to think he is. Yea, I know that ,but what I am saying is thats not gonna happen again. Closers blow games, and Lidge isnt the invinsible God they seam to think he is.

]]> By: Grrrumpy Minerhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72110 Grrrumpy Miner Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:37:17 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72110 Mets09,the Phillies Phans argument will be Lidge was perfect in 08. Mets09,the Phillies Phans argument will be Lidge was perfect in 08.

]]> By: NJhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72106 NJ Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:32:11 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72106 The Phillies have an increased payroll mostly because of escolators in existing contracts. The Mets continually have money to play with from bad contracts, bad salaries and the fringe elements of the roster are never fully addressed by Minaya in the right ways (if they were you couldn't afford your constant spending sprees) The Phillies have an increased payroll mostly because of escolators in existing contracts. The Mets continually have money to play with from bad contracts, bad salaries and the fringe elements of the roster are never fully addressed by Minaya in the right ways (if they were you couldn’t afford your constant spending sprees)

]]> By: NJhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72105 NJ Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:29:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72105 Anyone can go and get two closers if their prepared to pay for it, either in salary or prospects. The good deal for a reliever this year was Fuentes to the Angels. The Mets are better but the usual overblown ego is surfacing once again and every time the conversation is on a Mets player the ceiling is predicted whereas the floor is looked at for most Phillies. Anyone can go and get two closers if their prepared to pay for it, either in salary or prospects. The good deal for a reliever this year was Fuentes to the Angels. The Mets are better but the usual overblown ego is surfacing once again and every time the conversation is on a Mets player the ceiling is predicted whereas the floor is looked at for most Phillies.

]]> By: mets09http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72102 mets09 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:27:07 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72102 and you cant throw the money card anymore. The phillies have a 135 million dollar payroll. and you cant throw the money card anymore. The phillies have a 135 million dollar payroll.

]]> By: mets09http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72100 mets09 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:26:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72100 Yea, for some reason Omar gatting two closers is a problem? whatever guys Yea, for some reason Omar gatting two closers is a problem? whatever guys

]]> By: mets09http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72099 mets09 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:24:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72099 Rich, Yea his velocity went down ,but we dont need to disuss that he took the velocity off of his fastball so he can throw his change=up with more control. We will just not include that in this though. Secondly, KRod blew 7 saves ,but Lidge blew 9 in 2007, and 6 in 2006. Closers blow games,its what happens. The discussion was about why would his arm fall off when he only pitched 68 innings. Also Lidges numbers have been declining as well. obviously not the save count ,but neither has Krods. As far the rest of the Mets bullpen. We got rid of Heilman for Putz, Got rid of Smith for Sean Green/Darren Oday. We have A 10 game winner being added to the pen in Redding, We can put Neice in the pen or have Parnell there still. The Mets Bullpen is so fine past the 8th inning. Rich, Yea his velocity went down ,but we dont need to disuss that he took the velocity off of his fastball so he can throw his change=up with more control. We will just not include that in this though. Secondly, KRod blew 7 saves ,but Lidge blew 9 in 2007, and 6 in 2006. Closers blow games,its what happens. The discussion was about why would his arm fall off when he only pitched 68 innings. Also Lidges numbers have been declining as well. obviously not the save count ,but neither has Krods. As far the rest of the Mets bullpen. We got rid of Heilman for Putz, Got rid of Smith for Sean Green/Darren Oday. We have A 10 game winner being added to the pen in Redding, We can put Neice in the pen or have Parnell there still. The Mets Bullpen is so fine past the 8th inning.

]]> By: Grrrumpy Minerhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72093 Grrrumpy Miner Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:11:42 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72093 I am curious about something...I guess it was OK before the 2007 season for J-Roll to say that the Phillies were the "Team to beat" and yet its blasphemy and sacreligious for Beltran,K-Rod,Tom Seaver,Barry Bonds,Babe Ruth,Ralph Kramden,Snagglepuss,Porky Pig,and Robert E Lee to say "Team to beat".I know J-Roll delivered and was wright,But think of it THIS WAY.....what if K-Rod is wright in this coming season? What IF the Mets win? Ask yourself that question.Also for that blogger in here guaranteeing Jason Joseph will be closing games by June....It was a SMART MOVE for Omar to bring in TWO proven closers before the season starts. I am curious about something…I guess it was OK before the 2007 season for J-Roll to say that the Phillies were the “Team to beat” and yet its blasphemy and sacreligious for Beltran,K-Rod,Tom Seaver,Barry Bonds,Babe Ruth,Ralph Kramden,Snagglepuss,Porky Pig,and Robert E Lee to say “Team to beat”.I know J-Roll delivered and was wright,But think of it THIS WAY…..what if K-Rod is wright in this coming season? What IF the Mets win? Ask yourself that question.Also for that blogger in here guaranteeing Jason Joseph will be closing games by June….It was a SMART MOVE for Omar to bring in TWO proven closers before the season starts.

]]> By: Chuck Phttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72074 Chuck P Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:17:42 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72074 I love the back-and-forth... that's what makes a rivalry. I don't take offense to it. None of them will be winning a pulitzer prize anytime soon (not a lot of creativity coming from either side) but they are showing a willingness to step up and challenge their teammates and the oppositition. I like it because it reaffirms that the Phillies should not be taking anyone lightly. Even players that haven't been a part of the NLE rivalry are eager to make themselves a part of it. The bulls eye is on our back. The Mets' trash talking is a little shallow (considering we did win a championship and they choked in consecutive seasons down the stretch) but it really doesn't bother me that they're still a confident bunch. With Howard reporting 20 pounds lighter, Myers returning 30 pounds lighter and Kendrick reporting early, I like our chances... it won't come easy but baby, I can't Phight this Pheeling anymore!! I love the back-and-forth… that’s what makes a rivalry. I don’t take offense to it. None of them will be winning a pulitzer prize anytime soon (not a lot of creativity coming from either side) but they are showing a willingness to step up and challenge their teammates and the oppositition. I like it because it reaffirms that the Phillies should not be taking anyone lightly. Even players that haven’t been a part of the NLE rivalry are eager to make themselves a part of it. The bulls eye is on our back. The Mets’ trash talking is a little shallow (considering we did win a championship and they choked in consecutive seasons down the stretch) but it really doesn’t bother me that they’re still a confident bunch. With Howard reporting 20 pounds lighter, Myers returning 30 pounds lighter and Kendrick reporting early, I like our chances… it won’t come easy but baby, I can’t Phight this Pheeling anymore!!

]]> By: Don Mhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72071 Don M Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:03:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72071 David the Mets fan..."I believe that it took two meltdowns for the Mets players to realize that winning, even the most mundane games, should not be taken for granted"wouldn't you think that ONE meltdown should be enough for players to realize that every game is important... if they didn't learn their lesson in 2007, what makes you think they did after 2008?Phillies won last year with MOST of their players hitting below their career averages... so the most dangerous lineup in the NL East should even better this year, add a better starting rotation than we had to begin last season, and I don't see how any Mets players can be running their traps David the Mets fan…

“I believe that it took two meltdowns for the Mets players to realize that winning, even the most mundane games, should not be taken for granted”

wouldn’t you think that ONE meltdown should be enough for players to realize that every game is important… if they didn’t learn their lesson in 2007, what makes you think they did after 2008?

Phillies won last year with MOST of their players hitting below their career averages… so the most dangerous lineup in the NL East should even better this year, add a better starting rotation than we had to begin last season, and I don’t see how any Mets players can be running their traps

]]> By: Davidhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72069 David Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:39:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72069 Technically, the "team to beat" would be the team that just won the world series the year before. So, no, the Mets are not the team to beat. If K-Rod thinks the Mets are the better team, then he should just say that. I also hate the players talking about being the best in the division or whatever, but if a reporter asks a player if that player thinks they are the better team, I wouldnt expect him to say no. Every player likes their team the best (cept for Pirate and Nat players). So, as a Mets fan, to all other Mets fans, the Phils are the team to beat. They are the ones defending the title. We may be better on paper, but who really cares, since this isnt a video game or a computer simulation and the games are played on the field. Lets hold a lead in the division for more than a week before we start talking. Technically, the “team to beat” would be the team that just won the world series the year before. So, no, the Mets are not the team to beat. If K-Rod thinks the Mets are the better team, then he should just say that. I also hate the players talking about being the best in the division or whatever, but if a reporter asks a player if that player thinks they are the better team, I wouldnt expect him to say no. Every player likes their team the best (cept for Pirate and Nat players). So, as a Mets fan, to all other Mets fans, the Phils are the team to beat. They are the ones defending the title. We may be better on paper, but who really cares, since this isnt a video game or a computer simulation and the games are played on the field. Lets hold a lead in the division for more than a week before we start talking.

]]> By: RealMetsFanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72068 RealMetsFan Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:28:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72068 Enough already with the "Team to beat" nonsense. To both the Mets and the Phillies, just shut the heck up and go out and "WIN". To the Phillies I say, "shut the heck up and go defend your championship". To the Mets I say "shut the heck up and go win a championship". In case you both haven't noticed there are four other teams besides yourselves to beat in the NL east. Fifteen teams besides yourselves to win the NLCS, and Thirty teams besides yourselves to win the world series. So just shut up and win. Enough already with the “Team to beat” nonsense. To both the Mets and the Phillies, just shut the heck up and go out and “WIN”. To the Phillies I say, “shut the heck up and go defend your championship”. To the Mets I say “shut the heck up and go win a championship”. In case you both haven’t noticed there are four other teams besides yourselves to beat in the NL east. Fifteen teams besides yourselves to win the NLCS, and Thirty teams besides yourselves to win the world series. So just shut up and win.

]]> By: Benhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72067 Ben Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:18:59 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72067 I say let the Mets and the Met fans say whatever they want. They know the reality and that is the Phillies are the 2008 World Series champs and the Mets have everything to prove. All the pressure is on them to come out this season and win because if they don't start out well early it could be a long season for the Mets and their fans. The Phillies have what it takes and know they have what it takes to win when it matters most.As a Phillies fan who lives in the NY media coverage area I must say I can't wait til the Phillies take control of the NL East and then hear all the Mets fans wishing their organization was as good as the Phillies. It's music to my ears. I say let the Mets and the Met fans say whatever they want. They know the reality and that is the Phillies are the 2008 World Series champs and the Mets have everything to prove. All the pressure is on them to come out this season and win because if they don’t start out well early it could be a long season for the Mets and their fans. The Phillies have what it takes and know they have what it takes to win when it matters most.

As a Phillies fan who lives in the NY media coverage area I must say I can’t wait til the Phillies take control of the NL East and then hear all the Mets fans wishing their organization was as good as the Phillies. It’s music to my ears.

]]> By: David, the Mets fan from Queenshttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72066 David, the Mets fan from Queens Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:02:10 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72066 I have a biased inclination towards the Mets winning the NL East in 2009. I believe that it took two meltdowns for the Mets players to realize that winning, even the most mundane games, should not be taken for granted; then again, retrospection is quite simple and the past can be interpreted liberally. Every loss throughout the season should be a learning lesson - although every loss can be daunting, one can interpret these said losses as games filled with costly mistakes that can be rectified.I'd say that life is how one perceives it. I have a biased inclination towards the Mets winning the NL East in 2009. I believe that it took two meltdowns for the Mets players to realize that winning, even the most mundane games, should not be taken for granted; then again, retrospection is quite simple and the past can be interpreted liberally. Every loss throughout the season should be a learning lesson – although every loss can be daunting, one can interpret these said losses as games filled with costly mistakes that can be rectified.

I’d say that life is how one perceives it.

]]> By: NJhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/comment-page-1/#comment-72060 NJ Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:42:54 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/02/k-rod-gets-into-the-rivalry/#comment-72060 One thing is being forgotten in the rush to praise the Mets bullpen 'restructure'. Whilst still owing this years salary to Wagner they've taken on somewhere in the region of a further $18m for two back-end relievers, traded prospects and peices from their bullpen which still has question marks over it's middle-relief and health. Everyone keeps falling for the Mets spend happy routine when honestly any other team willing to flash that kind of cash and empty the farm could do as well in the market.Praise where praise is due and an active off-season doesn't necessarily mean a good one especially when your paying massive premiums in the long-term for the pleasure. One thing is being forgotten in the rush to praise the Mets bullpen ‘restructure’. Whilst still owing this years salary to Wagner they’ve taken on somewhere in the region of a further $18m for two back-end relievers, traded prospects and peices from their bullpen which still has question marks over it’s middle-relief and health. Everyone keeps falling for the Mets spend happy routine when honestly any other team willing to flash that kind of cash and empty the farm could do as well in the market.

Praise where praise is due and an active off-season doesn’t necessarily mean a good one especially when your paying massive premiums in the long-term for the pleasure.

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