Comments on: Guess the Top 10 Greatest Phillies http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Franhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-75051 Fran Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:03:46 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-75051 wow that was tough. I think I have a pretty legit list though wow that was tough. I think I have a pretty legit list though

]]> By: 100 Greatest Phillies: 22 - Pat Burrell | Phillies Nationhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74855 100 Greatest Phillies: 22 - Pat Burrell | Phillies Nation Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:01:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74855 [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...] [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...]

]]> By: 100 Greatest Phillies: 23 - Tug McGraw | Phillies Nationhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74723 100 Greatest Phillies: 23 - Tug McGraw | Phillies Nation Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:00:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74723 [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...] [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...]

]]> By: 100 Greatest Phillies: 24 - Chase Utley | Phillies Nationhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74566 100 Greatest Phillies: 24 - Chase Utley | Phillies Nation Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:01:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74566 [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...] [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...]

]]> By: Phan in TNhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74547 Phan in TN Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:05:45 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74547 I protest. ryan was looking at my answers before I submitted that thingy.I would like to change numbers 6 and 8 to Kevin Stocker. I protest. ryan was looking at my answers before I submitted that thingy.

I would like to change numbers 6 and 8 to Kevin Stocker.

]]> By: ryanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74541 ryan Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:17:56 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74541 #1? : obviously it's going to be Rico Brogna. #1? : obviously it’s going to be Rico Brogna.

]]> By: Chuck Phttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74539 Chuck P Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:11:45 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74539 I went the other way, Phil. I put him lower on my list than others might have him... I put him 8. I went the other way, Phil. I put him lower on my list than others might have him… I put him 8.

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74491 Jamie Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:58:46 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74491 Nope, I think they were all Lee Thomas Nope, I think they were all Lee Thomas

]]> By: Jeltzismyhombrehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74476 Jeltzismyhombre Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:20:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74476 Were all three you names Lee Thomas first round draft picks, or did Ed Wade pick one or two of them? Were all three you names Lee Thomas first round draft picks, or did Ed Wade pick one or two of them?

]]> By: Jamiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74466 Jamie Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:30:46 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74466 Hey, what about a prize for the most outrageous top 10 Phillies of all-time? What a beaut a list sprinkled with the likes of Andy Ashby, Adam Eaton, Carlton Loewer, etc... would be Hey, what about a prize for the most outrageous top 10 Phillies of all-time? What a beaut a list sprinkled with the likes of Andy Ashby, Adam Eaton, Carlton Loewer, etc… would be

]]> By: 100 Greatest Phillies: 25 - Ryan Howard | Phillies Nationhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74452 100 Greatest Phillies: 25 - Ryan Howard | Phillies Nation Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:00:39 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74452 [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...] [...] Win a prize for guessing correctly the top 10 in our 100 Greatest Phillies. Click here to fill out your form. Enter before 11:59 p.m. [...]

]]> By: Jeltzismyhombrehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74443 Jeltzismyhombre Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:39:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74443 I'm curious what criteria Tim is using for selection. It seems quite subjective. I tend to go with James since he's hard to disagree with. But there are other highly statistical methods for choosing a starting point.In case anyone is wondering, the Phillies who placed in Bill James' Top 100 Players of all-time (based on the 2000 edition of his Historical Baseball Abstract) are as follows:20. Grover Cleveland Alexander* 21. Mike Schmidt 33. Pete Rose* 40. Nap Lajoie* 78. Steve Carlton 96. Robin Roberts 99. Ed Delahanty* Played significant portions of their career as a non-Phillie.I remember a really interesting article in the Inquirer when the Abreu trade happened showing that in terms of Win shares / 162 games Abreu was actually the 2nd most valuable player in team history, ahead of Schmidt but behind Alexander. That would vault him above more esteemed position mates Gavy Cravath, Johnny Callison, Sam Thompson and Chuck Klein, who themselves should all place in the Top 25. A very good argument could put him in the Top Ten. We're deep in RF historically, but with no one great player. Maybe Pete Rose. I’m curious what criteria Tim is using for selection. It seems quite subjective. I tend to go with James since he’s hard to disagree with. But there are other highly statistical methods for choosing a starting point.

In case anyone is wondering, the Phillies who placed in Bill James’ Top 100 Players of all-time (based on the 2000 edition of his Historical Baseball Abstract) are as follows:

20. Grover Cleveland Alexander*
21. Mike Schmidt
33. Pete Rose*
40. Nap Lajoie*
78. Steve Carlton
96. Robin Roberts
99. Ed Delahanty

* Played significant portions of their career as a non-Phillie.

I remember a really interesting article in the Inquirer when the Abreu trade happened showing that in terms of Win shares / 162 games Abreu was actually the 2nd most valuable player in team history, ahead of Schmidt but behind Alexander. That would vault him above more esteemed position mates Gavy Cravath, Johnny Callison, Sam Thompson and Chuck Klein, who themselves should all place in the Top 25. A very good argument could put him in the Top Ten. We’re deep in RF historically, but with no one great player. Maybe Pete Rose.

]]> By: Phan in TNhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74440 Phan in TN Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:35:38 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74440 When I win, I want a life sized Phillie Phanatic replica (w/fur) shipped to my house in TN.I'm quite certain that I have at least 9 in the correct order. When I win, I want a life sized Phillie Phanatic replica (w/fur) shipped to my house in TN.

I’m quite certain that I have at least 9 in the correct order.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74428 Phil Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:13:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74428 Chuck P...I know exactly who you are talking about, but I don't wanna give it away. I wanted to put him as #8 or so, but I put him as #3 because of his name. Chuck P…I know exactly who you are talking about, but I don’t wanna give it away. I wanted to put him as #8 or so, but I put him as #3 because of his name.

]]> By: Chuck Phttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74401 Chuck P Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:08:48 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74401 I feel like I might have the right 10 but I don't know if the order will match up. There's one name in particular that I believe some will rate higher based on name recognition. I feel like I might have the right 10 but I don’t know if the order will match up. There’s one name in particular that I believe some will rate higher based on name recognition.

]]> By: Brian Michaelhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74395 Brian Michael Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:23:20 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74395 Yes, if no one gets it exactly right, the closest person will get a prize...though it won't be as cool. Yes, if no one gets it exactly right, the closest person will get a prize…though it won’t be as cool.

]]> By: Jimhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74391 Jim Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:05:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74391 you guys are crazy if you think any current player is on the top 10. rollins utley howard and burrel should all be top 25 material but none of them will sneak into the top 10. you guys are crazy if you think any current player is on the top 10. rollins utley howard and burrel should all be top 25 material but none of them will sneak into the top 10.

]]> By: Fuhshttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74390 Fuhs Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:02:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74390 You might as well have had us guess 2-10. I mean we ALL know the Phanatic wins, right?His career hits 31 years next month, AND he's already in the (mascot) Hall of Fame! Great baserunning, makes sure every bald head is well shined. The only minus is his road/home split. You might as well have had us guess 2-10. I mean we ALL know the Phanatic wins, right?

His career hits 31 years next month, AND he’s already in the (mascot) Hall of Fame! Great baserunning, makes sure every bald head is well shined. The only minus is his road/home split.

]]> By: Philhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74388 Phil Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:43:53 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74388 Darn Tim, so does that mean So Taguchi and Geoff Jenkins aren't in the top 10? I had them on my list. Darn Tim, so does that mean So Taguchi and Geoff Jenkins aren’t in the top 10? I had them on my list.

]]> By: Tim Malcolmhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74385 Tim Malcolm Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:38:40 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/03/guess-the-top-10-phillies-of-all-time/#comment-74385 Keep in mind I discarded men who played one year for the Phillies. So Lidge is not on the list. Keep in mind I discarded men who played one year for the Phillies. So Lidge is not on the list.

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