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With Kendrick this is definitely a see-ya pal type of thing.

Don’t be surprised if Kendrick throws a good game…For our sake, I honestly hope he doesn’t because he isn’t the #5 guy were looking for (Sorry Kendrick, no offense). I’d rather see Kendrick in the Bullpen as a LR. He would really help getting people out in a late inning jam with a sinker, double play ball.

Update: kendrick is not throwing a good game. He’s allowed a two-run dinger, lots of fly balls… a double by jo-jo reyes. I’d say your 5th starter is either Happ or Park. His line so far – 2 IP / 5 H / 3 ER / 0 BB / 0 K. \

Jason Donald, btw, hustled out an infield single in his first at-bat, ultimately scoring on a headfirst slide at the plate. He roped a second base hit in the second.

Kendrick looks very unsettled. Not good fo the competition. And then there were two.

Maybe a trade for someone like him that needs a change of scenery…throw Coste in the deal…

This could easily be Kendrick’s last stand. Is it still early? Yes. But you HAVE to dominate a Braves lineup that’s without Jones and McCann.

BTW, that picture reminds me of Little Richard. “Woooo!”

Faced 11 batters, gave up 6 hits, 4 ER, 2 SO, 1 BB, and one balk. Not a very good line at all.

Update on Kendrick – 3 IP / 9 H / 6 ER / 1 BB / 2 SO / 2 HR-allowed / balk.

Gave up two 2-run homers to Clint Sammons, 2 hits for Jo-Jo Reyes.

I think if Park keeps showing promise in ST, you could look to move him. But I think Park has a better chance than you might think, Charlie likes veterans.

Yeah except John Mayberrys path to the majors isnt blocked. He will make the team out of ST to start the season as Jayson Werth will miss the seasons first few weeks. Mayberry will be the guy that plays during that time, not Jenkins. After that time when Werth is healthy Mayberry will stay on the team because they still need his RH bat. Hell still get some PT as the 4th outfielder. Jenkins is going to be traded IF they can trade him, otherwise hell be the 5th guy and stairs will be the odd man out.

Are you seriuos though? Mayberrys smoking the ball right now…it would be retarded to deny this lineup that type of power from the right side of the plate…hes made the team.

Also what are smoking that makes you want to trade Happ? You must mean Kendrick…

And..for what? if they are packaged for a good player where are they going to play in this lineup? (crickets….) If its a reliever, still, unless they cut a few guys theres already a logjam of a competittion for the last few reliever spots…

For a starter…nobodys going to trade a good young starter before ST is even over…thats insane…plus theyre cheap…so theyd be looking to unload a big contract on us…which the phllies cant afford because theyre at their limit already….so I dont see any major trades happening anytime soon…

they wont trade happ or mayberry. theyll try and move jenkins, coste, and kendrick for some kind of value but not all in the same deal…

Wow. IT’s almost as if he isn’t even trying. Now, although I know that’s not true, to a man, you gotta come up bigger than that when your livlihood is on the line. The worst part is, It was Kendricks spot to lose, and after today, I believe he may have lost it. He may need a no-hitter against the ’27 Yankees to have a shot at this point.

Happ will get the 5th job…Carrasco got lit up over the weekend…Kendrick just got humilaited today..6 runs!

But lets not delude ourselves…Kendrick has been giving up 3,4,5 runs all year last year (on average) and the year before…his WHIP blows…his ERA blows…the Phillies just scored a lot of runs behind him that allowed him to get the run…but hes not an effiecient pitcher at all…and he hasnt been. Hes had good starts, a few great starts, but on average hes a below average starting pitcher…4,5,6 runs is inexcuseable from a professional starting pitcher….

If Happ isn’t going to be the 5th starter.. it wouldn’t be a bad idea to attempt to move him.

He shouldn’t go back to AAA, he proved he belongs in the majors, so if Happ + ? could bring you something in reutrn (and its more useful than Happ in an unfamiliar bullpen role..) then why not look into it?

All indications are its Happ or Park right now for the 5th spot, loser goes to the pen

Kendrick’s final line: 3 IP / 10 H / 8 ER / 1 BB / 2 K / 2 HR / 1 BALK

Donald is now 3-4 with a run scored, two singles and a double.

Mayberry smacked another homer.

Majewski got hit a bit in his 1 inning of work – 3 hits, 1 er (2 runs).

Howard has an error and a strikeout (and a single, two ribbies) – needs a homer to complete the Howard.

Well if Park pitches that well that he wins the 5th spot then you could trade happ + coste or jenkins (with eating some salary) for a better relief pitcher perhaps and some kind of compensatory B prospect that they have blocked….Id be ok with taht…I just would be absoltely stunned if Happ lost the 5th spot to Park…

you got to be crazy to try and trade mayberry and happ right now

Geoff, you need a new catch-phrase “see-ya pal” sounds too Home Alone-ish

I know how trades work…but why would you give up young cheap talent UNLESS Happ doesnt make the rotation…pal…actually m,ayberry isnt like most prospects. once they get to be 25 or so and they havent broken in yet…you get them whatever playing time you can if they are good enough for your team…but is antonio brown going to benefit from playing part time int he majors? absolutely not. With high-ceiling prospects you dont bring them up until theyre ready to be a full time player…with late bloomers like mayberry you just get them any big league PT that you can get them…you utiltize their talents. plus, i read that werth will miss the first 25 games of the season…so whos going to play that? jenkins…no.

Feliz will go down but theyre not going to trade for his replacement ahead of time…and theyre up against the payroll…so unless youre talking about a young 3B who again wouldnt be available unless hes blocked and i cant think of one

If Park wins then I can see them moving Happ. Kendrick and Coste have no value at all…so just get them out of here anyway you can…I just disagree with how these guys project to fit in. Mayberry is a guy who can contribute and I drather have a 4th outfielder who is good than someone like Jenkins…Happ seems better than Park

But i find it very hard to beleive someone would trade a cheap young good starting pitcher this early

The only reason people are down on Jenkins is because people thought he would hit 30 HRs last year (not sure why..he was always going to platoon)

He plays good defense, he’s got good power.. he was front and center cheering on his teammates through the entire postseason, and never complained at all about his lack of playing time. He’s a professional, and I’d much rather see him in that 4th OF spot than a young prospect

Mayberry would be much better suited playing everyday in AAA then he would sitting on our bench.. he played college ball, sometimes it takes those guys a few more years to get used to baseball as their “job”

I think Donald has played almost every game so far… and after the first like 6 or so he was under .200 …. I guess he’s been chipping away with some 2-hit games and getting that average up

How many of those hits came against AA ballplayers and stuff though? Lets see what these guys do as starters go a little deeper into games, and if Donald can handle Halladay, Sabathia, Beckett, Lester, etc.. then maybe he deserves his shot on the roster..

but we can’t go crazy with what these guys have done so far because that would be the same as the Braves going nuts because Clint Sammons hit two HRs today!!! (when in reality, they were off Kyle Kendrick, so its not all that impressive anymore)

I love Geoff among other people saying “trade Kendrick, Coste, (Eaton when he was on the team), lol reality is, if we know they suck and don’t want them, what makes them appealing to other big league clubs? If your going to trade shit (KK, Coste), your going to get shit in return.

I completely agree with The Dipsy, Happ and Mayberry are players with promise, who dont necessarily fit in with this ball club at the moment, so why not trade them? Maybe get a decent 3rd baseman, (Garret Atkins anybody??) Or another veteran right handed starter. Also, leave Mayberry on the bench in the BIGs, getting pinch hits and an occasional spot start, would hurt him in the long run, hes a young player who needs to see live pitching everyday, not once a week, hes not Dobbs or god damn Julio Franco.

Basically, it makes me laugh how people think that we could trade KK and Coste for like a Jayson Werth type player (good, solid, fairly young player). Teams hope we make KK are 5th starter, so they can assault him every 5th day

Dude, when did I say you could get a good player for kendrick & coste or ANY breathing person forf eaton? Youd be getting a filler B/C prospect at best for those guys…

Also…MLB 09 The Show is awesome…too bad I only have like an hour or two a week tops to spend on videogames if at all. If i was still in college id be playing the heck out of that game…

Kendrick is awful, haha wow 8 ER against a poor, poor braves lineup, oh baby

Yeah he would…I get the impression if the Phillies were to acquire salary theyd have to move salary as part of the deal though…I sense that they wont want to spend much more than they are now…

you think people will actually take jenkins salary? id be amazed if they did