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Phillies: Do you wanna play for the defending world champions? Ohman: Nah i’m good. i for one honestly don’t think we need him.

why not? Eyre for the whole season, Madson a year older and more developed and either Happ Kendrik or Park. i think we’ll be fine

I think we’ll be fine… not needed. I would be willing to bet that the Phillies went in loooooww…… laughably low.

Plus Ohman’s good. Over the last three years, he’s held left-handed hitters to a .194 average. He’s certainly a bit susceptible to right-handed hitters, but as a second lefty in the bullpen, it’d be a nice pickup provided they agree a price.

Ohman could be very useful but we have good pieces in place and we have no reason to feel optomistic about Majewski, Borkowski and Koplove and Ohman really only makes sense if the Phils move someone. The reason so many ‘names’ fail when a bullpens being put together is when guys are made to pitch differently to what made them succesful, the bullpen arms are only as useful as the innings they get.

no but I wouldn’t be expecting them to do that, would be expecting them to soak up garbage innings and as much situational middle relief as is possible. I’d be sending out Durbin or Park and make sure early on I used the lesser relivers to keep the core of the pen fresh and work Eyre hard until Romero’s return when his workload will be reduced.

I’d love Ohman if he can fit in but when Romero returns it makes Eyre redundent. There’s such thing as having too many cooks in the kitched, I fear signing Ohman might upset the great balance this pen has which is the source of it’s success.

BTW, I was talking about Majewski, Borkowski, and Koplove when I said mop up/middle reliever. I would love to see Ohman or Beimel in the Phillies bullpen until JC comes back. Then, we could use Ohman or Beimel as trade bait.

I don’t think there is such a thing as too many cooks in the kitchen in this situation. You guys aren’t taking injuries into consideration. Too many arms is a great problem. Let’s get him.

You can never have too many arms in the system and but in the key roles you can’t have your guys on a quota to give your best arms the kind of innings they like to thrive. It’s a fine line between overworking your relievers and having guys loose their effectiveness because of rust, just look at how we got Eyre who was considered to be a very good lefty but wasn’t getting the innings in Chicago. The final spots about finding someone to allow the other guys to be better by taking the fluff out of their innings, we’re not looking for another Romero or Madson.

I fully agree you need to take injuries into consideration but when you have whats expected to be a healthy bullpen you need to look to AAA for guys who can fill a hole.

This would be a good pickup. You can never ever have enough pitchers. You never know when you are gng to need them!

wow…nothing like ignoring career peripherals and noting team need over the likes of a onetime cup-of-coffee and/or a guy who’s never pitched above AA. And who didn’t pitch great while there.

hamels’ left hand, you don’t know what you’re talking about. zagurski was great until he got injured, and escalona is only 24. no reason to spend money on someone when you already have the personnel to cover you for 25.0 innings worth of pitching — if that.

I really think Ohman can help this team and is a much better pitcher for this team than a Biemel. I wanted the Phills to get this guy from the beginning. That being said I now would NOT want Ohman.

Let’s be fair, the Phills have spent ALOT of money. SO much that they may be a little strapped for a july pickup. I’d rather have enough money for a trade deadline pickup than for Ohman.

I looked over the stats last yr. ROmero pitched in 22 games the first 2 months. And 80-82 games total. Romero pitched ALL except 30 inngs of lefty relief. I truly believe that Eyre and Zags and even Happ could come up with 30-50 inngs.

Hey, what am I talking about, the Phils are paying him to pitch somewhere else $9 MILLION BUCKS to get out of town!

I don’t know what I’m talking about? Zagurski pitched great? He did? Those 14 earned runs he gave up in 21 innings pitched before he got hurt must have been a figment of everyone’s imagination but yours.

And Escalona gave up a BA/against of .281 in all of 15 games at AA.

But hey, who wants to analyze facts, Mike. We’ve got your crazy hypotheses instead….