Comments on: Phillies Lose Out On Sheffield … To The Mets http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: NY Nationhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-2/#comment-79398 NY Nation Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:41:51 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79398 Stuart Says: April 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm So Hamels is going to be warming up in the bullpen to come into a game? Well you dont know much about baseball. Hamels is a starting pitcher and i do not see him coming in from the bullpen. Alsoooooo we have the most losses by a franchise because we are one of the oldest. Mets have been around since the 60’s weve been around since the 1880’s you really should learn baseball.Umm.....dont SP warm up in the bullpen before games?.....Yeah thats what I thought. He'll be warming right when the fans are entering the stadium through the bullpen gate. Oh and what Mr. Met forgot to mention about Citi Field, is the fan bridge to walk across sections that also hovers right over the Vistor's pen. So your hapless (After Hamels, weak!) pitching staff will be getting it from all angles when they are getting their work in BEFORE THE GAME (SP's), and during.You should really learn baseball.Your total franchise loses do equate to the age of your franchise, but you also have to recognize the past failures of your club and how many poor seasons you have had in comparison to your winning ones.Enjoy your title for the next few months.Its always harder to stay on top.CHAN HO PARK FOR PRESIDENT 2012!! Stuart Says:
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
So Hamels is going to be warming up in the bullpen to come into a game? Well you dont know much about baseball. Hamels is a starting pitcher and i do not see him coming in from the bullpen. Alsoooooo we have the most losses by a franchise because we are one of the oldest. Mets have been around since the 60’s weve been around since the 1880’s
you really should learn baseball.

Umm…..dont SP warm up in the bullpen before games?…..Yeah thats what I thought. He’ll be warming right when the fans are entering the stadium through the bullpen gate. Oh and what Mr. Met forgot to mention about Citi Field, is the fan bridge to walk across sections that also hovers right over the Vistor’s pen. So your hapless (After Hamels, weak!) pitching staff will be getting it from all angles when they are getting their work in BEFORE THE GAME (SP’s), and during.

You should really learn baseball.

Your total franchise loses do equate to the age of your franchise, but you also have to recognize the past failures of your club and how many poor seasons you have had in comparison to your winning ones.

Enjoy your title for the next few months.

Its always harder to stay on top.

CHAN HO PARK FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!

]]> By: mickhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79364 mick Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:42:58 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79364 On paper the Sheffield deal looks terrific for the Mets.However,if history plays out Sheff will complain about playing time, he will be on the DL, he will give Mets management reasons to squirm, and he will dislodge an already somewhat disfunctional clubhouse. Chemistry and 25 players playing for each other wins championships---Sheff plays for himself. Sheff was a great talent--most of it is gone--what is left is a malcontent looking for his ticket to Cooperstown On paper the Sheffield deal looks terrific for the Mets.However,if history plays out Sheff will complain about playing time, he will be on the DL, he will give Mets management reasons to squirm, and he will dislodge an already somewhat disfunctional clubhouse. Chemistry and 25 players playing for each other wins championships—Sheff plays for himself. Sheff was a great talent–most of it is gone–what is left is a malcontent looking for his ticket to Cooperstown

]]> By: Jeffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79353 Jeff Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:30:23 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79353 Yeah I love the most loses comment, most humans today that follow baseball were not alive when the majority of those loses happened. I mean in my life time 70's through today we have been pretty solid.Just entertaining Yeah I love the most loses comment, most humans today that follow baseball were not alive when the majority of those loses happened. I mean in my life time 70′s through today we have been pretty solid.

Just entertaining

]]> By: Stuarthttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79334 Stuart Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:14:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79334 So Hamels is going to be warming up in the bullpen to come into a game? Well you dont know much about baseball. Hamels is a starting pitcher and i do not see him coming in from the bullpen. Alsoooooo we have the most losses by a franchise because we are one of the oldest. Mets have been around since the 60's weve been around since the 1880'syou really should learn baseball. So Hamels is going to be warming up in the bullpen to come into a game? Well you dont know much about baseball. Hamels is a starting pitcher and i do not see him coming in from the bullpen. Alsoooooo we have the most losses by a franchise because we are one of the oldest. Mets have been around since the 60′s weve been around since the 1880′s

you really should learn baseball.

]]> By: Matthttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79326 Matt Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:44:10 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79326 So the Phillies are going to finish behind the Braves who have an overrated rotation that will play out just like it did last year and a shallow bullpen, and what could be the weakest offense in the vision, and the Mets who have their own rotation questions, holes in the corner OF positions(God help Carlos Beltran when Sheffield is in the field), a lineup dependant on a mid-30s declining 1st baseman, a journeyman, head case and bench player platoon in RF, Luis Castillo and no depth in any are whatso ever? The Phillies have some questions no doubt(Moyer, Hamels' elbow, RH bat off the bench), but compared to the Mets and Braves they look pretty damn good. Remember, they won 92 games with Kendrick and Eaton in the rotation until August, Utley and Rollins played with injuries and everybody not named Brad Lidge had years below their career averages, so it's natural to assume most of them will have better years and no reson they aren't capable of 95 wins. And yeah let me tell you, the NY Mets have some intimidating fans, that's why they were able to beat the Marlins the last two years at home in a pennant race........what they lost? I'll take the team that was 7-0 at home in the postseason last year as being the harder place to play, and since the Mutts missed the playoffs, you know who I'm talking about. So the Phillies are going to finish behind the Braves who have an overrated rotation that will play out just like it did last year and a shallow bullpen, and what could be the weakest offense in the vision, and the Mets who have their own rotation questions, holes in the corner OF positions(God help Carlos Beltran when Sheffield is in the field), a lineup dependant on a mid-30s declining 1st baseman, a journeyman, head case and bench player platoon in RF, Luis Castillo and no depth in any are whatso ever?

The Phillies have some questions no doubt(Moyer, Hamels’ elbow, RH bat off the bench), but compared to the Mets and Braves they look pretty damn good. Remember, they won 92 games with Kendrick and Eaton in the rotation until August, Utley and Rollins played with injuries and everybody not named Brad Lidge had years below their career averages, so it’s natural to assume most of them will have better years and no reson they aren’t capable of 95 wins. And yeah let me tell you, the NY Mets have some intimidating fans, that’s why they were able to beat the Marlins the last two years at home in a pennant race……..what they lost? I’ll take the team that was 7-0 at home in the postseason last year as being the harder place to play, and since the Mutts missed the playoffs, you know who I’m talking about.

]]> By: Mr. Methttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79324 Mr. Met Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:31:37 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79324 .....But you have lost the most games as a franchise in Baseball history. Winning a World Series is pretty big news. Its that the Phillies (and their fans for that matter) are too dumb to realize that they have already surpassed the Mets on the field, but still feel the need to engage in the trash talk off of it (Hamels on our radio station in NY calling us choke artists in November). Our swoons still, and will always overshadow your World Series victories. So as I said, ride our coat tails to a 3rd place finish this year behind us (in 1st) and the Braves. And believe me, there are plenty of Phillies fans that flood the NY fan sites. You guys are the ones that act like you have a chip on your shoulder coming off a losing season. Again, good luck to you.Oh and P.S. As a fan at Citi Field (our new home), you have access to be literally 7-8 feet away from the Visiting pitcher as he is warming up in the bullpen. Cant wait to see how that plays out when your boys (Hamels, Lidge etc) are getting their work in to come into games... hahahahaha …..But you have lost the most games as a franchise in Baseball history. Winning a World Series is pretty big news. Its that the Phillies (and their fans for that matter) are too dumb to realize that they have already surpassed the Mets on the field, but still feel the need to engage in the trash talk off of it (Hamels on our radio station in NY calling us choke artists in November). Our swoons still, and will always overshadow your World Series victories. So as I said, ride our coat tails to a 3rd place finish this year behind us (in 1st) and the Braves. And believe me, there are plenty of Phillies fans that flood the NY fan sites. You guys are the ones that act like you have a chip on your shoulder coming off a losing season. Again, good luck to you.

Oh and P.S. As a fan at Citi Field (our new home), you have access to be literally 7-8 feet away from the Visiting pitcher as he is warming up in the bullpen. Cant wait to see how that plays out when your boys (Hamels, Lidge etc) are getting their work in to come into games… hahahahaha

]]> By: Matthttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79321 Matt Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:25:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79321 Mr. Met Says: April 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm Why are Phillies fans more concerned about what the mets do, rather than what their own team does? You’ve won a Championship, and guess what? Regardless of all of our chokes and late September swoons, you will always ride our coat tails (even with a World Series Title). Good luck defending your title with Chan Ho Park as your number 5. Met fans have already seen that movie, and we know how it ends. Good luck this year. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, you seem concerned enough about how the Phillies to come here. I love how your entir pathetic fanbase is so bitter that you're actually trying to devalue a championship. Guess what? Nobody really gives two shits about the Mets in their own city, so what makes you think the Phillies are riding their coat tails. And we'll enjoy Chan Ho Park. You on the other hand can enjoy Livan Hernandez, Luis Castillo, Fernando Tatis, Ryan "What day is it?" Church, Brian Schneider, and the regression of Fernando Tatis. It'll be a looooooooooooong season at Shitty Field. Mr. Met Says:
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Why are Phillies fans more concerned about what the mets do, rather than what their own team does? You’ve won a Championship, and guess what? Regardless of all of our chokes and late September swoons, you will always ride our coat tails (even with a World Series Title). Good luck defending your title with Chan Ho Park as your number 5. Met fans have already seen that movie, and we know how it ends. Good luck this year.
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Well, you seem concerned enough about how the Phillies to come here. I love how your entir pathetic fanbase is so bitter that you’re actually trying to devalue a championship. Guess what? Nobody really gives two shits about the Mets in their own city, so what makes you think the Phillies are riding their coat tails. And we’ll enjoy Chan Ho Park. You on the other hand can enjoy Livan Hernandez, Luis Castillo, Fernando Tatis, Ryan “What day is it?” Church, Brian Schneider, and the regression of Fernando Tatis. It’ll be a looooooooooooong season at Shitty Field.

]]> By: Stuarthttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79315 Stuart Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:53:29 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79315 Mr. Met why are you so concerned with what Phillies fans have to say on their own fan site. How can you even ask why we are concerned about what the mets do. Look at it this way, were not on your fan sites commenting. seems like your the one with problems. oh ps were world champions, youre still chokers. thats why we ride your "coat tails" were not chokers so we dont make the news as much. we didnt blow one of the biggest leads in september......twice. Mr. Met why are you so concerned with what Phillies fans have to say on their own fan site. How can you even ask why we are concerned about what the mets do. Look at it this way, were not on your fan sites commenting. seems like your the one with problems.
oh ps were world champions, youre still chokers. thats why we ride your “coat tails” were not chokers so we dont make the news as much. we didnt blow one of the biggest leads in september……twice.

]]> By: BurrGundyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79311 BurrGundy Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:34:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79311 Sheffield will get hurt the first month of the season as he has been hurt the past two years. He will not hit stride all year. He will not help the Mets, but will hit his 500th homer and then realize it's time to retire. Sheffield will get hurt the first month of the season as he has been hurt the past two years. He will not hit stride all year. He will not help the Mets, but will hit his 500th homer and then realize it’s time to retire.

]]> By: Mr. Methttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79303 Mr. Met Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:58:39 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79303 Why are Phillies fans more concerned about what the mets do, rather than what their own team does? You've won a Championship, and guess what? Regardless of all of our chokes and late September swoons, you will always ride our coat tails (even with a World Series Title). Good luck defending your title with Chan Ho Park as your number 5. Met fans have already seen that movie, and we know how it ends. Good luck this year. Why are Phillies fans more concerned about what the mets do, rather than what their own team does? You’ve won a Championship, and guess what? Regardless of all of our chokes and late September swoons, you will always ride our coat tails (even with a World Series Title). Good luck defending your title with Chan Ho Park as your number 5. Met fans have already seen that movie, and we know how it ends. Good luck this year.

]]> By: Chuck Phttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79296 Chuck P Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:25:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79296 It's Pat Burrell appreciation night... only fitting that it falls on a day that saw alternating treacherous thunderstorms and bright sun. It’s Pat Burrell appreciation night… only fitting that it falls on a day that saw alternating treacherous thunderstorms and bright sun.

]]> By: Woodmanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79291 Woodman Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:14:40 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79291 Typical Muts player..... will fit right in with that dysfunctional band of losers. Can't wait for the "crash & burn"! Typical Muts player….. will fit right in with that dysfunctional band of losers. Can’t wait for the “crash & burn”!

]]> By: mikehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79287 mike Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:00:04 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79287 Great move by the mets. He is a experience player who will help them, not a every day player put him in couple of games a week, he will win them some games. Great move by the mets. He is a experience player who will help them, not a every day player put him in couple of games a week, he will win them some games.

]]> By: estradahttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79286 estrada Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:58:18 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79286 Rumor in NY Radio is that Philly REALLY wanted Sheff and Rollins was calling sheff to convince him Rumor in NY Radio is that Philly REALLY wanted Sheff and Rollins was calling sheff to convince him

]]> By: Justinhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79285 Justin Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:56:37 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79285 And just so everyone knows I'm NOT comparing Sarge Jr. to Thome, just the contracts are similar. And just so everyone knows I’m NOT comparing Sarge Jr. to Thome, just the contracts are similar.

]]> By: Justinhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79284 Justin Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:56:03 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79284 Bruce, like you said it's not likely that the Angels release Sarge Jr. Mainly because there are multiple years left on his contract as opposed to Jenkins who was in the final year of a deal. So he's not going anywhere unless he's traded, look for a deal similar to Thome where the Angels eat a sizable amount of the salary but get a decent return on him. Bruce, like you said it’s not likely that the Angels release Sarge Jr. Mainly because there are multiple years left on his contract as opposed to Jenkins who was in the final year of a deal. So he’s not going anywhere unless he’s traded, look for a deal similar to Thome where the Angels eat a sizable amount of the salary but get a decent return on him.

]]> By: Mannyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79283 Manny Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:55:03 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79283 "The Mets plan to give him significant playing time. They'd only have to pay $400K and would consider Sheffield an option in both outfield corners." (mlbtraderumors.com) “The Mets plan to give him significant playing time. They’d only have to pay $400K and would consider Sheffield an option in both outfield corners.” (mlbtraderumors.com)

]]> By: Chuck Phttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79282 Chuck P Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:52:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79282 I wasn't for Sheffield... I don't think he's a good fit here but it's a good move for the Mets. They have holes at both corner outfield positions. Sheffield could help them... do I think he will make a huge difference? No, but it's worth $400,000 to have lightning in a bottle on the bench (a la Matt Stairs). I wouldn't take him HERE because we don't need that kind of potential headache. The guy is a lock for the hall... he has a lot of pride (deservingly, so)... he's going to be asked to take a significant reduction in PT and I don't know how he'll respond. I do know that we don't need any distractions. He should get a few more AB's in NY so it's a better fit. I don't think this move tilts the balance of power. The Phils are still the favorites, in my opinion. I wasn’t for Sheffield… I don’t think he’s a good fit here but it’s a good move for the Mets. They have holes at both corner outfield positions. Sheffield could help them… do I think he will make a huge difference? No, but it’s worth $400,000 to have lightning in a bottle on the bench (a la Matt Stairs). I wouldn’t take him HERE because we don’t need that kind of potential headache. The guy is a lock for the hall… he has a lot of pride (deservingly, so)… he’s going to be asked to take a significant reduction in PT and I don’t know how he’ll respond. I do know that we don’t need any distractions. He should get a few more AB’s in NY so it’s a better fit. I don’t think this move tilts the balance of power. The Phils are still the favorites, in my opinion.

]]> By: Geoffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79281 Geoff Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:47:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79281 Willingham seems more durable than Pena, but Pena seem to be a better hitter, but he cant stay healthy. Willingham seems more durable than Pena, but Pena seem to be a better hitter, but he cant stay healthy.

]]> By: Travishttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-79280 Travis Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:47:17 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-lose-out-on-sheffield-to-the-mets/#comment-79280 It's good the Phillies didn't sign Gary Sheffield. The phillies are very high on team chemistry which makes this a really good club. The mets are good but they could be even better if they were dedicated to some chemistry. The only team guy I see on the mets is david wright but no chemistry around. Sheffield will probably spell Ryan Church in LF and DH in interleague action. Sheffield will probably get some dingers but he'll hurt the chemistry sooner or later. Mets management needs to start bringing in chemistry/team guys. Well, we probably thought at least once since the sheffield rumor started that we'll cheer for the guy, but now like all the mets he'll be booed. Anyways a good move by the phillies not signing sheffield. The mets will get attention when sheff hits that 500 bomb but in the end I think the phils will get the last laugh in november when the phils win the WS. It’s good the Phillies didn’t sign Gary Sheffield. The phillies are very high on team chemistry which makes this a really good club. The mets are good but they could be even better if they were dedicated to some chemistry. The only team guy I see on the mets is david wright but no chemistry around. Sheffield will probably spell Ryan Church in LF and DH in interleague action. Sheffield will probably get some dingers but he’ll hurt the chemistry sooner or later. Mets management needs to start bringing in chemistry/team guys. Well, we probably thought at least once since the sheffield rumor started that we’ll cheer for the guy, but now like all the mets he’ll be booed. Anyways a good move by the phillies not signing sheffield. The mets will get attention when sheff hits that 500 bomb but in the end I think the phils will get the last laugh in november when the phils win the WS.

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