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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dodgers Destroy Moyer, 9-2</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:24:19 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Brian of CO</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89794</link> <dc:creator>Brian of CO</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89794</guid> <description>Sorry Geoff, but Don M and PtheB are right.  If you are truly a Phillies fan, get on board.  If not, dont post.  Every time a player doesnt get a hit, or even scores a run, then makes an error, they are a bum and need to go.  You keep flipping out that changes need to be made now.  like I said earlier, 20% through the season.  And I just found the ticket to one of the games I went to last year, it was dated June 1st.  Why do I bring that up.  Because by June first last year, we were 1 game back in the NL East.  So we are 1 game back now similar to last year, and yet this year numerous players must go?  Get a clue.  I dont like losing any games, but you cant win them all, and just because you start slow, doesnt mean you end slow, and the same with starting fast.  Baseball is a marathon.  Chill out man.  If they dont regain 1st at all between now and maybe mid July, than you can get worried maybe, but seriously, we are 1 game back right now, have a double header coming up against the Nats which could if the Phils play well gain another 1/2 game.  Honestly, I couldnt understand what Rollins opened his mouth about Phillies fans, but after reading how bad you think the Phillies are, I am wondering if he was talking about you being a front runner, and not Phillies Fans in general.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Geoff, but Don M and PtheB are right.  If you are truly a Phillies fan, get on board.  If not, dont post.  Every time a player doesnt get a hit, or even scores a run, then makes an error, they are a bum and need to go.  You keep flipping out that changes need to be made now.  like I said earlier, 20% through the season.  And I just found the ticket to one of the games I went to last year, it was dated June 1st.  Why do I bring that up.  Because by June first last year, we were 1 game back in the NL East.  So we are 1 game back now similar to last year, and yet this year numerous players must go?  Get a clue.  I dont like losing any games, but you cant win them all, and just because you start slow, doesnt mean you end slow, and the same with starting fast.  Baseball is a marathon.  Chill out man.  If they dont regain 1st at all between now and maybe mid July, than you can get worried maybe, but seriously, we are 1 game back right now, have a double header coming up against the Nats which could if the Phils play well gain another 1/2 game.  Honestly, I couldnt understand what Rollins opened his mouth about Phillies fans, but after reading how bad you think the Phillies are, I am wondering if he was talking about you being a front runner, and not Phillies Fans in general.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PtheBLovesTheBallGirls</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89718</link> <dc:creator>PtheBLovesTheBallGirls</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:46:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89718</guid> <description>I want to personally thank Don M and Chuck P for actually having a mind and using it in a productive way.Geoff you disgust me and I wish you were a Mets fan or a Pirates fan. You are the epitome of frontrunners, I bet you didnt even watch before 07 and got all your info from Hugh Douglas on WIP.No team is solid through the rotation or the lineup, no team goes 162-0, everyone has there slumps and gets shelled. Its baseball, its a marathon not a sprint. Now why don&#039;t you tell me why McNabb and Reid need to go and Rollins, Moyer, Howard, Park, Coste, Ruiz, Dobb need to be cut and we need to bring up all those great guys in the minors to start cause they are ready and amazing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to personally thank Don M and Chuck P for actually having a mind and using it in a productive way.</p><p>Geoff you disgust me and I wish you were a Mets fan or a Pirates fan. You are the epitome of frontrunners, I bet you didnt even watch before 07 and got all your info from Hugh Douglas on WIP.</p><p>No team is solid through the rotation or the lineup, no team goes 162-0, everyone has there slumps and gets shelled. Its baseball, its a marathon not a sprint. Now why don&#8217;t you tell me why McNabb and Reid need to go and Rollins, Moyer, Howard, Park, Coste, Ruiz, Dobb need to be cut and we need to bring up all those great guys in the minors to start cause they are ready and amazing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89685</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:12:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89685</guid> <description>and the concession prices, even though its actually cheaper than buying food at the movie theater...which i never do anymore..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the concession prices, even though its actually cheaper than buying food at the movie theater&#8230;which i never do anymore..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89684</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:10:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89684</guid> <description>Thats because the Phanatic is the greatest mascot in sports history.  I mean thats not even questionable.Dont forget the trainers and the groundskeepers...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats because the Phanatic is the greatest mascot in sports history.  I mean thats not even questionable.</p><p>Dont forget the trainers and the groundskeepers&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89682</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89682</guid> <description>Cause you&#039;re a regular on here.. and you REGULARLY post stuff just completely bashing players, coaches, bat boys, ball girls, umpires, ushers.. and thankfully, I&#039;ve yet to hear you bad mouth the Phanatic</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cause you&#8217;re a regular on here.. and you REGULARLY post stuff just completely bashing players, coaches, bat boys, ball girls, umpires, ushers.. and thankfully, I&#8217;ve yet to hear you bad mouth the Phanatic</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89681</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:01:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89681</guid> <description>But this season Jamie Moyer is actually WORSE than Adam Eaton was...Adam Eaton recorded a few Quality starts before being banished to single A ball.And every other fan on here gets away with bashing a player here or there when tehy perform poorly, so its just that im being singled out here.  im no worse than a lot of people on here. in fact, theres a few ppl on here who are way worse...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But this season Jamie Moyer is actually WORSE than Adam Eaton was&#8230;Adam Eaton recorded a few Quality starts before being banished to single A ball.</p><p>And every other fan on here gets away with bashing a player here or there when tehy perform poorly, so its just that im being singled out here.  im no worse than a lot of people on here. in fact, theres a few ppl on here who are way worse&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chuck P</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89679</link> <dc:creator>Chuck P</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:45:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89679</guid> <description>Maybe they had a better look the second time around.  You know, professional hitters have a tough time picking up 80 MPH fastballs.  Give me a break... he walked ONE batter last night in 4 1/3 innings. They weren&#039;t &quot;laying off&quot; his bad pitches; he would have walked more batters if that were the case.  The reality is that his balls weren&#039;t breaking.  He was throwing meatballs but not because he had to... a slowballer like Moyer never has to throw a meatball.  He needs to paint the corners, change speeds and keep the ball down every pitch... he never throws it down the center of the plate.  These are professional hitters... you&#039;re not going to sneak an 80 MPH fastball down the center of the plate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they had a better look the second time around.  You know, professional hitters have a tough time picking up 80 MPH fastballs.  Give me a break&#8230; he walked ONE batter last night in 4 1/3 innings. They weren&#8217;t &#8220;laying off&#8221; his bad pitches; he would have walked more batters if that were the case.  The reality is that his balls weren&#8217;t breaking.  He was throwing meatballs but not because he had to&#8230; a slowballer like Moyer never has to throw a meatball.  He needs to paint the corners, change speeds and keep the ball down every pitch&#8230; he never throws it down the center of the plate.  These are professional hitters&#8230; you&#8217;re not going to sneak an 80 MPH fastball down the center of the plate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chuck P</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89678</link> <dc:creator>Chuck P</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89678</guid> <description>They&#039;re not going to cut him loose... that&#039;s absurd.  You don&#039;t just cut pitchers loose.  We kept Adam F*ing Eaton around for the entire season (henceforth, why he was at the ring ceremony).  They&#039;ll let him try to work it out... PtheB is right; some of the shit that gets written on here is ridiculous.  Jimmy was right... frontrunners.On a positive note... Werth has registered a hit in 9 out of his last 12 games.  Ruiz was 2-2 with 2 walks.  RAULLLLLL is a beast... top 15 in the NL in RBI, R, HR, total bases, BAvg... etc., etc.  Rollins hit a HR in the 5 hole.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not going to cut him loose&#8230; that&#8217;s absurd.  You don&#8217;t just cut pitchers loose.  We kept Adam F*ing Eaton around for the entire season (henceforth, why he was at the ring ceremony).  They&#8217;ll let him try to work it out&#8230; PtheB is right; some of the shit that gets written on here is ridiculous.  Jimmy was right&#8230; frontrunners.</p><p>On a positive note&#8230; Werth has registered a hit in 9 out of his last 12 games.  Ruiz was 2-2 with 2 walks.  RAULLLLLL is a beast&#8230; top 15 in the NL in RBI, R, HR, total bases, BAvg&#8230; etc., etc.  Rollins hit a HR in the 5 hole.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89677</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:36:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89677</guid> <description>I doubt Lidge is ever going to top his perfect season of last year... should he be &quot;weeded out&quot; ?Rolling probably won&#039;t win the MVP again..Dobbs might not lead the majors in pinch-hits..Chase Utley&#039;s on pace for more errors this year than last...The reality of the siutation is fans here bitch and complain too much.. if the people on here were GM&#039;s we&#039;d be the laughing stock of baseball.. and YOU, Geoff especially pick a different player and go crazy every other week.. then you calm down on him for a few days.. and then start right back up again.You don&#039;t like Rollins, Moyer, Madson, Myers, Ruiz, Coste, and whoever else.. but they helped us win the WORLD SERIES last year.. so in less you just completely hate life, why don&#039;t you relax a little, enjoy this baseball team, and give them more than 30 games before you&#039;re ready to blow the team up for the All-Stars in waiting down on our farmWe&#039;re all disappointed that Moyer isn&#039;t performing, but because you&#039;ve been sayung how bad he is all season.. you know think you have some kind of knowledge about baseball.. and you&#039;ve got this venom in every single post that mentions ROLLINS or MOYER..   the rest of us here appreciate the things they&#039;ve done, and hope they can regain their form.. instead of ripping on them on a blog.holler</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt Lidge is ever going to top his perfect season of last year&#8230; should he be &#8220;weeded out&#8221; ?</p><p>Rolling probably won&#8217;t win the MVP again..</p><p>Dobbs might not lead the majors in pinch-hits..</p><p>Chase Utley&#8217;s on pace for more errors this year than last&#8230;</p><p>The reality of the siutation is fans here bitch and complain too much.. if the people on here were GM&#8217;s we&#8217;d be the laughing stock of baseball.. and YOU, Geoff especially pick a different player and go crazy every other week.. then you calm down on him for a few days.. and then start right back up again.</p><p>You don&#8217;t like Rollins, Moyer, Madson, Myers, Ruiz, Coste, and whoever else.. but they helped us win the WORLD SERIES last year.. so in less you just completely hate life, why don&#8217;t you relax a little, enjoy this baseball team, and give them more than 30 games before you&#8217;re ready to blow the team up for the All-Stars in waiting down on our farm</p><p>We&#8217;re all disappointed that Moyer isn&#8217;t performing, but because you&#8217;ve been sayung how bad he is all season.. you know think you have some kind of knowledge about baseball.. and you&#8217;ve got this venom in every single post that mentions ROLLINS or MOYER..   the rest of us here appreciate the things they&#8217;ve done, and hope they can regain their form.. instead of ripping on them on a blog.</p><p>holler</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89674</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89674</guid> <description>waaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaa...you know thats not even what the reality of the situation is.  there are just a few unproductive cogs in this team here, not all of them...and those taht are unproductive have to be weeded out.  it doesnt look like some of them are ever going to get back to where they were...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaa&#8230;you know thats not even what the reality of the situation is.  there are just a few unproductive cogs in this team here, not all of them&#8230;and those taht are unproductive have to be weeded out.  it doesnt look like some of them are ever going to get back to where they were&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel Murphy</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89673</link> <dc:creator>Daniel Murphy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:25:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89673</guid> <description>Who takes moyer&#039;s spot in the rotation???? ja happ.... isnt he supposed to take   chan ho park when hes back to normal????? what about blanton and his nice era???????????</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who takes moyer&#8217;s spot in the rotation???? ja happ&#8230;. isnt he supposed to take   chan ho park when hes back to normal????? what about blanton and his nice era???????????</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don M</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89671</link> <dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:24:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89671</guid> <description>I heard a rumor once that if you bash every single player on the Phillies roster on a daily basis.. sooner or later, you&#039;ll be correct, and one of them won&#039;t have a good season</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a rumor once that if you bash every single player on the Phillies roster on a daily basis.. sooner or later, you&#8217;ll be correct, and one of them won&#8217;t have a good season</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89669</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:21:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89669</guid> <description>He cruised for three inning because it was the first time around the lineup...then they adjusted and stopped swinging at his bad pitches, then they started getting on base and driving in runs off of meatballs because he was forced to throw strikes because of the adjustments the dodgers lineup made the second time through...thats what weve all been saying for months now...this is not acceptable or sustainable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He cruised for three inning because it was the first time around the lineup&#8230;then they adjusted and stopped swinging at his bad pitches, then they started getting on base and driving in runs off of meatballs because he was forced to throw strikes because of the adjustments the dodgers lineup made the second time through&#8230;thats what weve all been saying for months now&#8230;this is not acceptable or sustainable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chuck P</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89667</link> <dc:creator>Chuck P</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:17:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89667</guid> <description>He cruised through three innings... he can get guys out... the problems came when he started leaving the ball up in the zone.  When he&#039;s hitting his spots, he&#039;s still able to be effective.  He needs to figure out what he needs to do to keep the ball down for 6 innings (not just three or four).  I still think that he can consistently give us 6 innings and 4 ER per start.  Lets not forget that he was 3-1 in April with a ERA around 5 (fine by me).  Maybe the 250 win thing is weighing on his ability to focus.  Maybe he&#039;s a bit tired (maybe the short offseason has caught up with him a little bit).  Whatever it is, he&#039;s going to have to figure out what that is and be honest with himself.  Maybe he should be thinking about asking to skip a start to get a little extra rest.  Those were two very good hitting teams... but that&#039;s not a valid excuse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He cruised through three innings&#8230; he can get guys out&#8230; the problems came when he started leaving the ball up in the zone.  When he&#8217;s hitting his spots, he&#8217;s still able to be effective.  He needs to figure out what he needs to do to keep the ball down for 6 innings (not just three or four).  I still think that he can consistently give us 6 innings and 4 ER per start.  Lets not forget that he was 3-1 in April with a ERA around 5 (fine by me).  Maybe the 250 win thing is weighing on his ability to focus.  Maybe he&#8217;s a bit tired (maybe the short offseason has caught up with him a little bit).  Whatever it is, he&#8217;s going to have to figure out what that is and be honest with himself.  Maybe he should be thinking about asking to skip a start to get a little extra rest.  Those were two very good hitting teams&#8230; but that&#8217;s not a valid excuse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PtheBLovesTheBallGirls</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89660</link> <dc:creator>PtheBLovesTheBallGirls</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:06:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89660</guid> <description>I love you guys, I really do.Utley, Victornio and Rollins are all slumping lets cut them loose trade them away... who needs em, right! We got donald and marson and stairs man we are all set.Read the shit you write its ridiculous. Moyer didn&#039;t get 249 wins by accident he has been doing the same thing for 23 years I dont think a light bulb just clicked and all of a sudden everyone figured him out. He is slumping, he will break out of it. We saw how long we stuck behind Myers last year even though he sucked. It will be the same for Jaime.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love you guys, I really do.</p><p>Utley, Victornio and Rollins are all slumping lets cut them loose trade them away&#8230; who needs em, right! We got donald and marson and stairs man we are all set.</p><p>Read the shit you write its ridiculous. Moyer didn&#8217;t get 249 wins by accident he has been doing the same thing for 23 years I dont think a light bulb just clicked and all of a sudden everyone figured him out. He is slumping, he will break out of it. We saw how long we stuck behind Myers last year even though he sucked. It will be the same for Jaime.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DHall</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89658</link> <dc:creator>DHall</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89658</guid> <description>I&#039;m wondering if the two year contract the Phillies gave Moyer was more of a courtesy contract as a way of saying thanks for last year.  Maybe they will wait for him to get his 250th win and then cut him loose.  When I watch him pitch, it doesn&#039;t look like he&#039;s doing anything different.  His velocity, his delivery all look the same to me.  I just think he overacheived last year due to balls put in play.  I think the balls put in play last year were outs whereas this year they&#039;re hits.  In other words, he was lucky.  It&#039;s pretty obvious when you look at his ERA over the last several years.  Any thoughts from anyone?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the two year contract the Phillies gave Moyer was more of a courtesy contract as a way of saying thanks for last year.  Maybe they will wait for him to get his 250th win and then cut him loose.  When I watch him pitch, it doesn&#8217;t look like he&#8217;s doing anything different.  His velocity, his delivery all look the same to me.  I just think he overacheived last year due to balls put in play.  I think the balls put in play last year were outs whereas this year they&#8217;re hits.  In other words, he was lucky.  It&#8217;s pretty obvious when you look at his ERA over the last several years.  Any thoughts from anyone?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Maverick</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89655</link> <dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:52:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89655</guid> <description>Manny - great point.....  our shitty pitching is getting better with the exception of Moyer.  He&#039;s moving in the wrong direction.Too bad we didnt pick up Lowe this offseason.. he would have been a great addition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manny &#8211; great point&#8230;..  our shitty pitching is getting better with the exception of Moyer.  He&#8217;s moving in the wrong direction.</p><p>Too bad we didnt pick up Lowe this offseason.. he would have been a great addition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Manny</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89650</link> <dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:45:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89650</guid> <description>Let him get his 250th win and depending on how that outing goes, keep him in the rotation or simply get him outta there. Happ is ready. If he gets a W after allowing 5+ runs, that should be it. If he goes back to traditional-Moyer-mode (3-4 runs in 6 innings) then, by all means, keep him in the rotation.Look at our starters and how they&#039;re pitching:Hamels: improving
Myers: improving
Blanton: slightly improving
Park: greatly improving
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Moyer: dramatically declining (aka falling off a cliff)Look, you don&#039;t have to look at the ERAs to notice this. There is an ugly pattern developing with Moyer and I just don&#039;t know how long our team can endure having him out there every 5 games.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let him get his 250th win and depending on how that outing goes, keep him in the rotation or simply get him outta there. Happ is ready. If he gets a W after allowing 5+ runs, that should be it. If he goes back to traditional-Moyer-mode (3-4 runs in 6 innings) then, by all means, keep him in the rotation.</p><p>Look at our starters and how they&#8217;re pitching:</p><p>Hamels: improving<br
/> Myers: improving<br
/> Blanton: slightly improving<br
/> Park: greatly improving<br
/> &#8212;<br
/> Moyer: dramatically declining (aka falling off a cliff)</p><p>Look, you don&#8217;t have to look at the ERAs to notice this. There is an ugly pattern developing with Moyer and I just don&#8217;t know how long our team can endure having him out there every 5 games.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89649</link> <dc:creator>William</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:38:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89649</guid> <description>From time and again I write on here and make comments and most of the time lately its regarding this topic.  And mostly its to say we should have gotten rid of Moyer in the offseasonI am a fan of Jamie Moyer, nice guy, met him got his picture with him, its on my facebook and the ball he signed is in my office at work.  I like the guy.And Bruce had some great points!  I won&#039;t disagree with most of anything he says.  He made some great points.  So don&#039;t take offense to anything I say its nothing against you. I see your side.But baseball is a business, your right its not fantasy sports.   You want to put the best product out there and the right price for the fans to buy tickets and to win ball games.I said from day one that we should have hired Moyer as a pitching(bullpen maybe) coach or consultant.  And give Happ or whoever a chance to start.  Moyer is signed for 2 years making 14 plus when we could have had for less and probably the next 6 or 7 years minimum.  If Happ is out there getting shell at an ERA of what Moyer is we would would call that learning experiences.  What Moyer is doing is getting shelled.Give Happ or whoever the 5 spot to gain experience for the future...he can do just as good with the ERA and has better stuff than Moyer.You take the playoff last year...every team that has seen him time and time again shelled him...he needs help from the umpire and be right on..he doesn&#039;t have the stuff to just get by.   I&#039;m not saying its all about stuff, its about placement and command too along with many other things but even when he is on...he still needs to have stuff to get guys out.I just keep replaying that David Wright bomb in the Mets game and thinking I was watching a beer league softball at bat...I like Moyer, I&#039;m not bashing him for wanting to extend his career and at the time I think the Phillies thought they would put some fans in the seats and get a 13-15 game winner...but reality is setting in and now we have two years of a bad contract and a guy who come playoff time...last year I would want him on the mound now...I wait for the follow games.I didn&#039;t see all of the game last night but my friend that saw Moyer pitch earlier this year said that the players even knew early that they weren&#039;t going to win so they were just through the motions and out there getting paid...  If that is the case then you have a bigger clubhouse problem...if you know your going to lose when he is on the mound and you are going through the motions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From time and again I write on here and make comments and most of the time lately its regarding this topic.  And mostly its to say we should have gotten rid of Moyer in the offseason</p><p>I am a fan of Jamie Moyer, nice guy, met him got his picture with him, its on my facebook and the ball he signed is in my office at work.  I like the guy.</p><p>And Bruce had some great points!  I won&#8217;t disagree with most of anything he says.  He made some great points.  So don&#8217;t take offense to anything I say its nothing against you. I see your side.</p><p>But baseball is a business, your right its not fantasy sports.   You want to put the best product out there and the right price for the fans to buy tickets and to win ball games.</p><p>I said from day one that we should have hired Moyer as a pitching(bullpen maybe) coach or consultant.  And give Happ or whoever a chance to start.  Moyer is signed for 2 years making 14 plus when we could have had for less and probably the next 6 or 7 years minimum.  If Happ is out there getting shell at an ERA of what Moyer is we would would call that learning experiences.  What Moyer is doing is getting shelled.</p><p>Give Happ or whoever the 5 spot to gain experience for the future&#8230;he can do just as good with the ERA and has better stuff than Moyer.</p><p>You take the playoff last year&#8230;every team that has seen him time and time again shelled him&#8230;he needs help from the umpire and be right on..he doesn&#8217;t have the stuff to just get by.   I&#8217;m not saying its all about stuff, its about placement and command too along with many other things but even when he is on&#8230;he still needs to have stuff to get guys out.</p><p>I just keep replaying that David Wright bomb in the Mets game and thinking I was watching a beer league softball at bat&#8230;</p><p>I like Moyer, I&#8217;m not bashing him for wanting to extend his career and at the time I think the Phillies thought they would put some fans in the seats and get a 13-15 game winner&#8230;but reality is setting in and now we have two years of a bad contract and a guy who come playoff time&#8230;last year I would want him on the mound now&#8230;I wait for the follow games.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t see all of the game last night but my friend that saw Moyer pitch earlier this year said that the players even knew early that they weren&#8217;t going to win so they were just through the motions and out there getting paid&#8230;  If that is the case then you have a bigger clubhouse problem&#8230;if you know your going to lose when he is on the mound and you are going through the motions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Maverick</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/05/dodgers-destroy-moyer-9-2/comment-page-1/#comment-89646</link> <dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:15:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=4588#comment-89646</guid> <description>We have a rotation full of Adam Eaton&#039;s right now.. or atleast pitchers who are pitching like him.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a rotation full of Adam Eaton&#8217;s right now.. or atleast pitchers who are pitching like him.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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