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Sorry – I meant “THAN,” not “WITH” Savery.

Cook and Bedard aren’t better than Peavy.

Peavy probleably won’t come here, but you try, If the padres would turn down donald, carrasco or bastardo, Brown, and other lower level like knapp they are crazy its a better package then the white sox offered three relief pitchers one is almost 26. brown who is one of the top outfield prospect in the minors only jason heyood a brave young kid and martinez are rated higher, by keith law, second remember when we said C.C. wanted to go to the west coast, didn’t that change when he got the money. In this game money talks. But anyone who comes on here and says he can’t win in cbp doesn’t know a thing about sports. a young cy winning pitcher. and to you Geoff read my post the rotation would be Hamel. Peavy, happ carrasco next season with drabek as a possible , or worley, or kendrick they would be the fifth as far as money, if myers resign or goes to arb he get 12 or better plus you replace blantons 5 million with happ and his 400 thousand so it almost pays for peavy.

WHy would the Phillies give up “Donald, Carrasco, Brown, and Knapp” for a pitcher that makes a ton of money, when we already have the highest payroll in team history..

we shouldn’t trade for a pitcher unless he’s like a solid # 2 like Peavy.

Because he makes them stronger, second the added payroll will be okay with blanton, meyers gone next year replace with peavy and happ at low salary, bastardo at low salary and either drabek or someone like worley or stutes or kendrick at low salary, donald is a ulitily in ever one mind but the people on here and one guy on phuture phillies, It’s either brown or taylor to get it done both are good prospect, I am tired of the low level blantons , eatons , types go get a true stud, and lets get this team back to the series. I didn’t mention moyer because I really don’t know what is going to happen with him he could be in next years rotation if they feel a rotation of Hamel. Peavy [if we get him] happ, bastardo, might be too young on the back end. we have the highest payroll in history because we ate how much in salary this year by my count its 3 million for tome, 8.5 for eaton and jenkins 7 that’s a lot of money next year it goes away, with some raises for howard , rollins, and hamels but not that much. plus I really believe myers and blanton are gone,

That like a little kid not getting his way and crying to get it. Don thought better of you, guess you only like to post when people agree with you. mention a mvp like pujols and santan in stupid trade and compare it to a guy is on the trade market is really below your normal post, maybe you had a bad day at work . have a nice day,[I WOULD POST A SMILEY FACE BUT DON'T KNOW HOW]

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We went through this last year when people were crying that we didn’t get CC Sabathia.. when really, it was never, ever, ever going to happen.. so Im not sure why people got their hopes up?

Peavy isn’t coming here.. and the sooner everyone realizes that the better..

Players that have a chance to land here are Bedard and Cook.. and for some reason the comments after that had to deal with how neither of them are better than Peavy. Which is true but has nothing to do with anything..

Peavy wants to stay in the NL (which we are in) he also wants to play on the West coast or the Midwest (which we are not near).. He will cost a boatload in prospects, and gets paid a crazy salar over the remaining years of his contract. Given those factors, along with the Phillies Front Office reluctant to give up top prospects in trades.. I think its 99.9% certain that Peavy isn’t coming here. ;)

but why should we get Bedard and Cook? it’s not like they are much better than what we have already. I wouldn’t trade for them. I would stick with who we have if we aren’t getting someone like Peavy.

Hamels
Peavy
Myers
Blanton
Happ

with Moyer pitching against teams like the Marlins and Nationals ;)

maybe he’ll go to the Brewers . . .

Bedard would be the #2 on our staff… Cook is a ground ball pitcher that has managed to keep a career ERA about the same as Brett Myers, while pitching in Coor’s Field

actually their AWAY ERA’s.. Cook = 4.06 in his career, Myers = 4.71

Cook is a move that would let you improve your rotation, without having to give up your best prospects in return.. you could probably make a deal that included Kyle Kendrick (nowhere to go in our organization), Brown -or- Taylor, and a lesser prospect..

OR.. you could give up all your best prospects for Jake Peavy, who has an AWAY ERA of 3.82 …. Which is VERY GOOD, but not GREAT

Cook’s Ground Ball rate is 56%
Peavy’s is 41%
Cole Hamels is 40%
Jamie Moyer is 44%
Brett Myers is 47%

Derek Lowe 60%
Brandon Webb 64%

My point being that Peavy wouldn’t guarantee anything.. you would have to give up way more than he’s worth to obtain him.. and then you have to pay him the world each season anyway..

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/02/post_6.php

well we should’ve signed Derek Lowe. oh well lol.

You can prognosticate all you want… but Peavy has said he wants to stay in Southern California because of his family. Sure he wants to win, but it’s not the money (say what you want). He doesn’t want to pitch in Chicago or Philadelphia… or anywhere else he’d have to move or be away from his family. Take the man at his word for crying out loud. Just because lots of other people don’t mean what they say doesn’t mean this guy is that way. Let GM’s talk all they want, but because of Peavy’s no-trade clause, they are not in control of this situation… he is.