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I definitely would sit Werth at the first opportunity since he has looked so dreadful in a 2 for 27 slump. Ibanez who had the assigned role as DH in weekend series against the Yankees and which qualifies as a modified “rest” on the bench, has to continue to play. The team needs his bat while he is still hot.

When Romero comes back, isn’t Mayberry going to be the one to go? The bullpen needs help and everyone besides Lidge is pitching pretty well.

Geoff, no way they get Cook for that. Kendrick is soooooo over and Savery is a marginal prospect right now. But that would be great. As for Mayberry, they do have to play him now cuz he’s too old (in a profession where 25 can be considered old) to stay down. If you’re gonna start him 2-3 days a week…fine. Otherwise, trade him or trade Vic or Werth to open up the spot (which I would never do). His stock is probably high right now. Remember, he had his stance changed around in spring training and started to fall back into “bad habits” at the end of spring training. I love the guy. Quite simply, and I thought I would never say this, in Marson, Donald and Mayberry, we may just have an embarrassment of riches right now.

The Dipsy

Pat, when Romero comes back we drop Taschner like fourth period French.

The Dipsy

if they cant get enough at-bats for Mayberry though, it would seem counter-intuitive to have him sit around on the bench when he could be getting reps and refining his skills in Triple-A. I agree, Taschner should be dropped, but you can never have enough arms.

Oh, oh..too late. Now you have done it Geoff. The rest of this thread will belong to the baseball fantasy GM wanna be’s with the ever present wish list in hand. Enjoy your time here. Just one reminder, it’s another TWO months before the non-waiver july 31st deadline. Oh hum……

Good topic. At some point, it becomes a waste to sit on a 25-year-old prospect whose ceiling with this team is in a platoon anyway. Mayberry will get his shots to produce with Interleague approaching and players needing time off. Werth could use time off. Riding the pine is just how it goes sometimes. Chase Utley sat the bench at first. Just the way it goes, especially on a team as deep as the Phils. The Phils just so happen to really need his RH bat, so Mayberry is a nice fit. I’m sure he’s thrilled to be away from a terrible IronPigs team.

Here is a thought. The BoSox have a surplus of pitching available. They also desperately need a SS. Why haven’t we talked to them about Jason Donald for Clay Buckholtz or Daniel Bard?

Taschner will get sent down because he still has options left. Where as everyone else would be put on waivers first and the Phillies would risk losing them for nothing.

Penny is ok as a 3/4. Arm problems? Geoff or Mikemike, what do you know about this Overbeck cat thats hitting the crap out of the ball down in A ball. He’s got 54 rbis.

The Dipsy

Really NJ? That’s what he’d do? Have you seen the Sox SS performance? It’s brutal. I think Buckholtz, more than Bard, can be had. Would they do Donald straight up? Probably not, but instead of mailing him a bag of crap, as you so intellectually put it, they would negotiate. A deal could absolutely be worked out. Buckholtz would be cheaper than established veterans, and he wouldn’t be a 2 month rental. And our main trade chip would be a guy who’s more than likely blocked from the majors for at least another year.

With the state of most team’s pens it should be possible to deal Taschner for somebody’s 4th or 5th outfielder. That way Mayberry can get his regular AB’s in Triple A….. say a Gabe Kapler type

havent heard of him…

I’m saying they are all available because of their depth. Their rotation and minor league depth are ridiculous.

gabe kepler got traded last week…

number twos under contract beyond this year wont be cheap (think what itd take to get dan haren, who isnt even available, btu if he was.)

The names right now look like Penny, Cook, Marquis, PEAVY!…Who wants Jake Peavy…with the Phillies embarrassment of riches, we could definitely get ourselves a Jake Peavy, no?

Anyway, Id rather see Mayberry get his reps for one more year, or at least til September call ups. And no, trading Werth or Victorino should not be an option.

Their not ‘available’, Matt Cain or Roy Halladay aren’t ‘available’… And taking MLBTR for gospel is like quoting from wikipedia, its a collection of writers opinions that are on rarely accompanied by a teams response. Todd Zolecki’s speculation about Peavy was speculation as it came with no response from the team as was Ken Rosenthal’s on the Phillies looking for starting pitching.

If Daniel Bard, one of the best prospects in baseball was ‘available’ for trade don’t you think he’d be with another organisation right now?

the trade deadline is a long way from now.

NJ, you really expect teams to comment on everything a beat writer says? And what do you think, the reports are made up? Sources spill to writers. It’s not always golden, but to take what’s written and completely dismiss it all the time won’t do you anything either. If Buckholtz or Bard are 5% available, then my personal opinion is that it’s worth looking into, and making a very large offer.

Bard, Buckholz? Why? So we can have two greenhorns in our starting rotation (Happ)? F that. Am I wrong when I represent the following:

1) Marson is blocked.
2) Donald is blocked.
3) Mayberry is blocked. Trade Werth or Vic if you want so Mayberry can play but thats a mistake. Remember, Mayberry was a nobody before spring training. This is no time to break in a rookie.
4) Other teams really like Marson and Donald and maybe Mayberry, too.

We can’t “get married” to our good prospects. Play em or trade em. And get a real good picther while you’re at it.

The Dipsy

right on dipsy. Donald is the most valuable of the blocked guys to me because hes learning to play several positions and I think hell be in the big leagues next year in some fashion. Hes getting time at Third in AAA in case Feliz isnt here next year.

Sure it is. The Sabathia trade was early July last year. Trades will be happening earlier and earlier. Peavy almost got traded last week. It can Happen.

Now youre just being adolescent douches. Nobody is saying anything close to that.

The only guy available right now is probably Penny, although he can’t be traded before June 15th without his consent. He’ll probably be traded right around that time though, since the Sox have to activate Smoltz before June 19th.

Also, the latest from Ken Rosenthal is:
Phillies in search of starter

The Phillies’ rotation appears to be stabilizing, but club officials still will be aggressive in their search for rotation help.

The team, which already has made an inquiry on Rockies right-hander Jason Marquis, plans to investigate every available option, recognizing that ace left-hander Cole Hamels is their only starter with electric stuff.

Financial flexibility might be less of an issue for the Phillies than it is for other clubs. While their payroll is a record $132 million, the Phils already have sold more than 3 million tickets. The club’s entire nucleus is signed long-term, and the organization has prospects to spare for trades.

Excluding Peavy, who probably would not his waive his no-trade clause for the Phillies, Mariners left-hander Erik Bedard represents perhaps the most intriguing fit.

Bedard, unlike fellow M’s lefty Jarrod Washburn, is a difference-maker. As a potential free agent, he would have every reason to be on his best behavior. But his prickly makeup could be an issue, particularly in Philadelphia.

Some in the industry continue to speculate that the Red Sox will trade right-hander Daniel Bard, or at least return him to Class AAA.
One rival scout says Bard’s stock “is as high as it’s ever going to be.” Another says. “He’s a (radar) gun guy, a one-pitch pony. He throws hard, but it’s right down the middle. It’s dead straight — I mean, dead straight. And his slider is not a power slider.”

Bedard. Ok, so thats FOUR lefties in the rotation. If don’t even like having three. Oy.

The Dispy