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5% available means unavailable and teams do comment on the rumors that have foundation. Don’t you think if Bard or Bucholz are available then the Phils have ‘looked into it’ and at ’95% unavailable’ have realised being able to deal for either of them is virtually impossible.

Also you can’t see prospects so broadly as play them or trade them because there are prospects like ours littered around the league in the same situation and the only prospects blocked in the Phils system are those only able to play 1st and 2nd. A la Mike Costanzo although hopefully not with the same result our prospects are not ready to be everyday major leaguers.

I honestly don’t think Halladay gets traded regardless of what happens with Toronto. If anything, this year has shown Toronto they are closer than they thought to competing.
And where’s the 4th lefty? Bedard would replace Moyer, not Blanton.

I do agree Dipsy but I don’t think that you can give up on guys too early. It’s a lot easier to fill gaps when you money to work with and the best way to accomplish that is to groom talent. That doesn’t mean you give up on someone because they don’t do well in a one-week callup (I am eluding to Geoff’s comments that we’re going to “see what Mayberry’s got” over these next couple of games) but homegrown talent is cheaper than FA guys like Cook and Marquis and any of the other names being tossed around. Those that are blocked are expendable but you have to get value in return. You can’t just throw them away for a guy like Jason Marquis.

I love how people assume that guys like Marquis are going to come here and shut it down… well, they’re not. You’re likely going to overpay for those mid-tier guys because you feel like you have to do something. Unless we can persuade Peavy to come here or land an Erik Bedard, I’ll pass and keep the prospects we’ve got.

I’ll throw something else out there…i’ll probably get a ton of crap for this but here goes…how about Pedro Martinez? rumor has it, (go ahead NJ, freak out, i used that word) that he’ll take 3M plus incentives. We wouldn’t have to part with any prospects, and he COULD be a solid contributor as he tries to show he’s still got some tread on his tires.

again, call me crazy, but looking to get a bit creative.

Steve-O! Love that idea. I would take him in a heartbeat. Atta way to use the ole noggin. BUT! There must be a reason he’s not playing for anyone else, dontcha think?

The Dipsy

Oh my god how fickle can you be, HOW MANY TEAMS REPEAT? how many teams don’t even end up near the playoffs after a World Series appearance. Do you see the Angels or Red Sox or even Cubs going crazy to throw everything in for now? NO because they all understand there’s an intellegence to this game and the Yankees proved you can’t buy a championship by mortgaging everything for now. How can we insult the Mets for the lack of intellegence and understanding of a roster and then suggest we do the same??

LF is not blocked, Ibanez deal does run 3 years but a player is only blocked WHEN HE’S MAJOR LEAGUE EVERYDAY READY and both Victorino and Werth are nearing big money years with an already escolating payroll. Yes I forgot to mention SS but 3rd is not blocked, catcher is not blocked, the bullpen and rotation is not blocked with barely any lengthy contracts.

I love Marson but he’s been on the scene 5 minutes and is not a raw catcher, Mayberry is starting to develop into a viable major league and needs minor league seasoning. Donald has got caught up in a numbers game but he hasn’t forced his way up and some of you talk like these guys are shoulder to shoulder with Ryan Howard.

THE PHILLIES ARE LEADING THE NL EAST! Have you guys not looked at the standings? You can’t act like a repeat and even a shoo-in for the play-offs is an absolute… The team is improving and the front office will make improvements yet some here are talking like its the bloody apocolypse… GROW UP!

No-one wants Pedro and we should give him $3m and a guaranteed roster spot when no-one else will? Are we really more intellegent about baseball than the scouts the teams employ.

If some of you are going to hold to such ridiculous ideas about the game please become scouts and execs, proove the rest of us wrong.

The only argument against a trade right now for a top starter Like Peavy is they are hot and what kind of message does it send to the fans.On may 26 you are throwing in the towel. Unless you are making a trade with boston for there excess pitching, or tradeing one ace for another, it makes sense to wait. The teams don’t want to send a message that they are packing it in at this early stage. so after thinking about it yes they will wait most likely until trade deadline.

okay, so we’ll wait until the deadline . . .

Griffin they traded three better prospects for Blanton, So For cook they would give that plus Drabek, based on what they gave for blanton, And why not how offend can you get a 33 year old lifetime 4’58 era with 1100 plus innings and over 1300 hits given up he has given up 200 more hits than innings pitched. This guy is a superstar.

The Dispy plain up and down you are a douche. You draw the line when you start actually insulting people. Your baseball accument is on a par with a chiwawa, you just bark on…

I am not a douche. I am a metsies fan.

The Dipsy

We’re gonna win
Don’t wanna be a loser, gonna win
‘Cuz winnin’ really is the only thing
Get out of the way we’re comin’ in
If you wanna fight just step inside the ring
Does anybody wanna take a swing?
It’s gotta be all or nothin’
Oh, we’re gonna be the champions
Yeah, we’re goin’ all the way, we’re gonna win, win

go phillies, beat those fish

“Freak” is not an insult. “Douche” is. If you considered an insult I apologize. What I won’t apologize is questioning, albeit in harsh terms, your “wait til next year, or what the hell, even the year after that” approach when we’re one of the best 5 teams in the league now. Foot on the gas. You will see in the next two months or so that the Phils feel the same way. And the word is “acumen”.

The Dipsy

I’ve seen Burke Badenhop, who’s starting against us tomorrow night, pitch a couple of times this year. Let’s hope his sinker ball isnt “on” Wed. night. Nasty stuff at times!

my bad on the spelling… Being one of the 5 best teams doesn’t mean you start making every deal you can, did it help the Yankees? Did the Red Sox do it after breaking the curse? Answers NO

The Phils aren’t waiting till next year, it’s a record payroll with a good development system in place which will solidify the Phillies standing as a powerhouse for years along with the Red Sox, Angels, Cubbies etc.

You’re actually serious. Which is sick. Dude…Myers is an FA, Eaton comes off next year, the rest of Thome comes off. Money is not an issue. Do you remember a guy named Manny Ramirez that got traded last year to the Dodgers? Sabathia to the Brewers? Those teams sucked before those teams got them. They made the playoffs. And thats just last year. So, lemme get this straight (and I didn’t say “make every deal you can”…please don’t misquote me). You would propose we keep our pitching intact and wait till they come around and continue to groom our young players so we may have a solid team for the next five to seven years. Am I getting that right?

The Dispy

Well, its a retort like that that really kills a thread. Best of luck.

The Dipsy

My sister plays in a girls softball leauge,and the name of her team is the “METSIES” any relation ?