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If Myers Is Done, What Should Phillies Do?

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, May 28, 2009 08:22 PM | Comments: 194
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I stepped away from the Phillies for a while today, since there wasn’t anything really new to write about. Yes, the offense has some bad games, especially against sinkerball pitchers and guys who … well … can actually pitch. And yes, the pitching wasn’t good last night – Brett Myers was probably hurt; Jack Taschner probably isn’t long for the 25-man roster. We know all these things.

Then the news about Myers grew worse, and now it looks as if the longtime Phillie won’t finish 2009; moreover, he might not even don a pair of red pinstripes again.

So now the question becomes: What now? Suddenly the Phillies have lost their best pitcher (statistically), leaving one bonafide ace (Cole Hamels), a probable mid-rotation seesaw (Joe Blanton), a still-unproven mid-rotation lowballer (JA Happ) and an aged veteran who hasn’t shown to be worth his weight (Jamie Moyer). Suddenly they’re – at best – a three-man staff.

It’s no secret the Phillies have been the most ambitious of gentleman callers this season. They’ve inquired about the following pitchers: Jake Peavy, Brandon Webb, Roy Halladay, Doug Davis, Erik Bedard, Cliff Lee, Aaron Harang, Brad Penny, Chris Young and Jason Marquis. The names range from the elite to the broken, and everything in between. For once, though, the Phillies have the talent leverage to pull a deal. Names teams are salivating over include Lou Marson, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, Travis d’Arnaud, Michael Taylor, Dominic Brown, Freddy Galvis, Vance Worley, Kyle Drabek and Antonio Bastardo. Ah, the benefits of finally having a top-shelf farm system.

But considering the circumstances of both the major league rotation and the potential dearth of pitching prospects, the Phils might need two starters via a trade. It might mean Jason Marquis now, Jake Peavy later. Or the Phillies could call up Carlos Carrasco or Vance Worley. Or they could play it safe with Kyle Kendrick or Andrew Carpenter (safe, meaning, they don’t mind making the offense score seven runs per game).

Of course, one problem the Phillies now face is every team in baseball knows the Phils need an arm, so the Phils carry no value leverage. A multiple prospect deal (say Marson, Worley and Bastardo) for a Young is very possible.

So should the Phils point their guns at a big-time pitcher right away?

I think it’s best the Phillies work with what they currently have, at least for a little while. Yes, there is only one goal: Win a world championship. There is no selling to be done. There is no resting on their hands. They must show a commitment to winning. But jumping that gun and trading for a mid- or top-line starter right away wouldn’t be wise. Instead, give Kendrick and Carrasco their chances. Yes, Kendrick has struggled, but his average against with runners in scoring position remains strong (.170, almost 100 points less than his standard average against). That seems like the old Kendrick.

Meanwhile, despite Carrsaco’s faults he remains a high-strikeout pitcher capable of going undamaged in five-to-six inning starts. Start him on a major league track now – force him to make adjustments and see if you can ride him for a few starts. If so, you’ve saved some money and gained some leverage.

Of course, it’s still possible Myers might eschew surgery and risk his hip, pitching the remainder of 2009 without surgery. That’s not wise, but if he feels okay about it, it’s his call. That said, the Phillies can’t be reactionary. They’re already naked to the rest of the league; if they can prove they have more clothes than others think, they can gain some leverage and, ultimately, help themselves out in the long run. Not just in the short term.

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  • Posts: 0 Ed

    I hope they stay away from Bedard. We need a solid righty to go with Hamels. Two awesome lefties and garbage righties really doesn’t help much in the playoffs.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Can I just add a Moyer-like replacement is a bad thing? I agree win stat can be heavily overvalued but didn’t he lead us in wins last year? A guy like Doug Davis or Jarrod Washburn isn’t sexy but their pitching well this year, if they can do the job then in this situation you take it, a guy pitching for now can be just as effective as a guy pitching for his future.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Myers might be persuaded now to come back for a year or two on a deal to reestablish health/value so I wouldnt write him off just yet..

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Wouldn’t rule out Myers ending up with Florida if they expand their payroll…

     
  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    NJ I think the problem with a “moyer-like” replacement right now is that in CBP, if they make a mistake, they are going to get crushed. Davis and Washburn pitch in bigger parks than we do, so they get away with more mistakes. That won’t work here.
    I think if the Phils target a big name guy, it’s gotta be a strikeout, sinker ball type pitcher. In the meantime, that same sentiment could give Bastardo an advantage. Geoff as you mentioned his K:BB ratio is phenomenal.
    I guess another thing that wouldn’t surprise me is Andrew Carpenter. If the Phillies really want to take the wait and see approach, why risk pulling another Gavin Floyd with your prospects, if you are going to potentially replace them in 2 weeks anyways? Why not bring up Carpenter, let him get 2-3 starts in, then make your move, without damaging the cream of your crop.

     
  • Posts: 0 Richie

    In my opinion, if Brett gets any indication that he can play this out…he will.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Let’s not overhype the “LEFTY” thing like people did before with Ibanez. If you can hit, you can hit..

    if you can pitch, you can pitch..

    Bedard has the most upside and talent of those guys.. Is Washburn any better than Happ right now? Is he any better than what Blanton showed vs. St Louis a few weeks ago, or in that brilliant 11 K game

    Bedard has a career ERA 3.72 (Washburn 4.11) … Washburn has given up mor than a hit per inning in his career, and gives up a HR every 7.8 innings.
    Bedard Ks about one per inning in his carerr, HR every 10.8 innings,

    Bedard is clearly the better option.. and from everything i’ve heard, he’s “weird” which is different from being a “D!ckhead”

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Not a bad idea with Carpenter. I mean, he pitched ok. He would be to me someone like inbetween Jason Marquis and Doug Davis, but being a committed sinkerballer. Hed be a little less than a trade for a backend starter, but he really wouldnt be that bad, and would allow you to keep your farm intact for the next few weeks while you plot a major move.

    Thast a good idea.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I’m not 100% AGAINST getting a guy like Washburn.. I just don’t see that as the type of move that can win the division without Myers

    and if it only costs Kendrick, and Jason Donald.. do it.

    but I don’t want to see them lose a top prospect or two for a guy that isn’t much better than what we currently have on our farm.

    If we aren’t going to get a difference maker, why not just give Carrasco the nod

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Bedard is clearly a better option that Washburn, Marquis, or Davis, and Cook. I agree.

    I just would be surprised if he came that quickly here in a trade. Charlie is a good people person though, so maybe a change of scenery can benefit Bedard? Plus, Raul knows him and can work with Charlie to get him acclimated to the environment. So its feasible that he might not necessarily also be a d!ckhead when he comes here…in the meantime, I compeltely agree that if youre not trading for a frontline guy right away, then bring up Worley, Bastardo, Or Drew Carpenter. None of those guys would be all that much worse (and maybe better in some cases) than trading for Jason Marquis, Doug Davis, Or Jarrod Washburn.

    Im in total agreement with that.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I don’t know that Worley is ready.. he’s putting up great numbers in AA, but he’s young, and very inexperienced.. that would be a lot of pressure on a guy to come up and have people expect anything from him.

    His numbers at this level wouldn’t be close to what he’s doing at AA-Reading

    Carpenter was just instead of Kendrick.. I don’t think he’s ready..

    I think its Carrasco or Bastardo.. and smart money is on them giving Carrasco the job with him knowing that he’s got to pitch well to stay there

     
  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    But Don I think the problem with Carrasco is he is more mentally unsure of himself than the other pitchers in the system. If he comes up, crashes and burns, I think quite possibly lose him altogether. Carpenter has at least had a taste of the bigs, and could handle it a little better. Plus, he’s familiar with coming up and being sent down again already, so the situation wouldn’t be as big of a shock to him as a different prospect.

     
  • Posts: 0 Buffalophilsfan

    I don’t like the idea of trading for a middle-of-the-road pitcher like Cook, Marquis, Washburn, etc. If Amaro is going to go that route, why not just call up one of the kids and give them a chance to “hold-the-fort” for awile? I saw Bastardo pitch yesterday in Buffalo and he was dealing. Went 7 strong innings and did not have a ball hit hard against him. He gave up 6 hits and 0 runs and looked ready to me. Granted, it was against the Mets farm team that is terrible (I thought you all would be happy to know that), but Bastardo’s stuff was electric and it is my guess he gets the first shot with the big club.

    If the Phills are going to pull the trigger on a trade now it has to be for a top of the rotation guy. I love Halliday but he is not going anywhere. Peavey?? Maybe. Oswalt, more likely. Something has to be done sooner rather than later.

    Another thought, Koplov has looked great at LV. Could he or Majewski be called up and Park moved back to the rotation?? I’m not for that as I think Park belongs in the Pen … I’m just throwing stuff out there!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    I dunno about Carrasco man, taht has Gavin Floyd written all over it. If they call him up while hes not dominating in AAA I dont like that..

     
  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    Exactly my point with Carrasco. If he struggles, I fear he’d be done entirely. Carpenter is the safer bet, with Bastardo to follow after more innings at AAA.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Carpenter got POUNDED by the Nationals in his MLB debut.. the Phillies won in a rain-shortned game, where Carpenter got the WIN

    Despite 4.1 Innings Pitched, 8 hits, 5 ER, 3 walks, 4 K’s, 10.38 ERA, 2.54 WHIP

    we won 7-5 when the game was called due to rain..

    He’s not ready.. and that 4.1 of crappy innings doesn’t give me the least bit of confidence that he can “handle it a little better” than Carrasco, who by all accounts, needs to be challanged to perform at his best

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Yeah my point was Carpenter isnt all that much worse than one of those back-end cheapo quick fixes on the market now. So if theyre going to call up someone Make it Worley, Bastardo, or if theyre going to gamble with Carrasco its better than trading him for a mediocre starter…

    Im at the point now where I think if youre going to trade then it better be someone really good, because trading good prospects for mediocre ptichers doesnt make sense.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Dominating AA or AAA doesn’t mean ANYTHING AT ALL compared to the big leagues..

    Kyle Drabek has been FILTHY so far in A-ball… doesn’t mean he’d be able to get anyone out in the majors..

    I’m just trying to brace everyone for reality.. they aren’t skipping over their top pitching prospect when its time to add a pitcher, just because Carpenter threw 4 lousy innings before in the big leagues.

    Maybe Carrasco isn’t ready.. maybe he just needs to be challanged..

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    Kendrick was called up from double A a couple years ago and did fine. Worley has better numbers and stuff than Kendrick, so i really don’t think he could fare any worse than Kendrick dude in….i believe 06′?

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    did*

     
  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    but Don are you willing to destroy Carrasco over 4 MLB starts if you’re main goal is still to trade for a frontline starter? Also, what happens if he blows up? Guess who’s trade value gets destroyed, because you can bet he’ll need to be involved in any trade for an ACE.
    What i’m saying is that if your main goal is to trade for a frontline guy, then you need to bring up someone who can handle the stage for 3-4 starts, until you can bring that big fish in.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    IF we’re getting a frontline starter… I could care less who they pitch, I would imagine it would be Kendrick or Carrasco still

    I was going on the notion that they don’t bring in anyone*.. and who would the full-time replacement be, which would be Carrasco over Carpenter (or anyone else)

    If you’re just looking for someone to fill-in for a few games, why not just got on the phone and make a deal happen today instead of giving away a few games with pitchers that aren’t ready? If the goal is to get “X” lets go get him instead of letting “Y” get three starts, and “Z” get two starts in the mean time

     
  • Posts: 0 Justin

    Bastardo is taking the spot of Carrasco as an untouchable, i think travis d’arnaud is losing his luster, he looks AWFUL at the plate in Lakewood, and ever since getting demoted from the Phils Marson hasn’t recovered. I may think about dealing d’arnaud now because if the Phils plan on replacing Ruiz after the season or whatever with Marson what point is there to keeping a guy that’s log jammed and isn’t even hitting low a ball pitchers. Dom Brown and Michael Taylor are almost assuredly untouchable as well as they are perceived as the future for this team.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    What has Marson shown at all, that makes anyone think he’s close to taking Ruiz’s job?

    I’ve been saying this for a long time now, but Marson in no way looks like he’d be better than Ruiz at any phase of the game.. hitting, calling the game, or actual defense behind the plate..

    D’Arnaud is like 19 years old or something, lets not write him off just because some scouts labeled him as Johnny Bench Jr.. let him play a little while and get used to professional baseball

     
  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    Justin rule #1 is that nobody is untouchable. I think all those names you just mentioned are in play. And Don M yes I think if we’re going on the notion of season long in house replacement, it’s probably Carrasco or Bastardo, with Carrasco having the edge. My reasoning for not immediately making a trade is that we will probably overpay for talent right now, because every team knows we’re hurting right now. I’d rather step back, assess our situation, then go after our target. But I understand your point.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I just don’t buy the notiion that WE* are the desperate team… we have young guys in our farm that we could use.

    Other teams have starters that they want to trade, or they’ll lose them after the season..

    So the other teams want to get their hands on our prospects just as much as we want that new pitcher..

    The Phillies aren’t foolish they aren’t going to sell their entire farm for a rental player, ala Milwaukee last year. We’ve seen how important home-grown talent is, and how important it is to be able to pay players $3 M per season instead of $13 M per season that you do for free agents

     
  • Posts: 0 Justin

    Steve-o if that’s true then why weren’t Madson, Howard, or Utley ever dealt when they were still in the minors, why has Carlos Carrasco never been dealt, because the Phillies management doesn’t waiver on guys they believe to be untouchable so to that I say even if they are mentioned they wouldn’t deal them for a rental like other teams would. I wouldn’t even imagine them dealing those untouchables to teams they would have to see in the NL, if anything it’d be an AL team they may have to see once every 4 years.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    That dude Strasburg, tops out at 103 mph. DAMN He is Joe Dirtay.

    23 k’s in one game? Maybe the Nats can actually assemble some good starting pitching soon..

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    You have to keep your top 2-3 prospects I agree. If you do trade one of them, it better be for someone whos a frontline player who is NOT a rental. Thats why getting someone like Bedard, you better make sure you sign him to a contract before you make the deal otherwise your throwing away prospects for a guy who walks away for one maybe two draft picks IF those picks arent protected.

     
  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    Justin my answer to that is because we were never in a position where we needed to deal them. If you remember there was a time when we were talking about dealing Ryan Howard, because his path was at the time blocked by Jim Thome. It’s not that those players you mentioned were untouchable, just that we never needed to deal them for a rent a player, or stud to put us over the top. When those players were coming up, we were a team on the rise, but certainly not a team in the position to make an aggressive move to win the WS like we are now.

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt Kwasiborski

    Here is my preference:
    1. Halladay- if he comes here, he may not lose another game with our offense. Think Rick Sutcliffe going to the Cubs in 84
    2. Peavy- Doesn’t want to uproot his family and is a flyball pitcher so his numbers won’t be as good as they are in Petco. Will cost less than Halladay just because the Pads want to shed his salary
    3. Bedard- he seems focused and injury free this year. I think he would welcome a return to the East Coast.

    Other than that, we can throw in a few young guys and see what they got. Our offense has proven it can carry a woeful pitching staff through some rough patches. We don’t need to jump the gun on the other junk out there just yet.

    And let’s not completely write off Blanton and Moyer. Blanton just pitched his best game as a Phillie and Moyer looks to be steadying. I think the Chan Ho demotion was a wakeup call to the rest of the staff. No need to panic at all, remember we are the WFC!

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    IMO. I believe the Phillies are going to pull a Milwaukee and trade for a Peavy, Bedard, Etc. I think their trying to have sustained success much like the Eagles. The Eagles build for the future, while being able to compete for a Championship every year. I would much rather them have sustained success then go from being on top of the league for three years. then become the Pirates for five…

    My hoarding all of their talent in the minors, taking their time with them, and making sure their ready to play is a way to acheive sustained success.

    While it’s nice to compete for a Championship in sort of a window, why not hold onto all of the pitching prospects and in 2-3 years, they’ll all be ready, combine that with Utley, Hamels, Howard, Werth, Victorino, Mayberry, they might be better then they are now. Theirs no telling what this team could do with an immensely improved, and young rotation, along with their formidable lineup.

    I’d like to hear your guys takes..

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dispy

    Well, I’ll just say this to everyone who wants us to keep ALL of our home grown talent. I we do it, we DEFINITELY, WITHOUT QUESTION, DON’T get to the World series this year. If we trade SOME of our home grown talent to bring in a Halladay or Peavy we DEFINITELY CAN get to the World Series this year. I select the latter. Here’s your choice:

    Hamels
    Peavy/ Halladay
    Marquis/Cook/etc.
    Blanton
    Happ/Moyer

    OR

    Hamels
    Marquis/Cook/etc.
    Blanton
    Happ
    Moyer

    OR

    Hamels
    Blanton
    Happ
    Moyer
    Carrasco/Bastardo/Carpenter/Worley

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    The prospect rankings change so much in such short spaces of time. Just look at Jaramillo who was once untouchable or if we’re thinking of Jason Donald I’m going to draw a comparison to the Tigers trading Matt Joyce, the organisation has to look at the prospects and see who helps and how and they have the scouting reports we don’t.

    The problem with assembling a package of prospects to acquire the ‘get over the top’ guy is it does hurt the team which is what’s so funny about Jake Peavy’s trade demands. To often those kind of deals either set a team back or does nothing but just address one problem creating another.

    Rentals make sense especially for the Phils who have to think about how they can contend in October for the next decade which this team is capable of. Look at the Lohse or Moyer deals, an off-the-radar short-term acquisition for a marginal minor leaguer or two can have great effect and you most guys will walk with type B status at the very least. It’s not sexy, it’s good baseball management, if you want to go shopping at every opportunity and scrutinise every position that doesn’t have an all-star calibre player just ask the Yankees and Mets how that works out.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    The prospect rankings change so much in such short spaces of time. Just look at Jaramillo who was once untouchable or if we’re thinking of Jason Donald I’m going to draw a comparison to the Tigers trading Matt Joyce, the organisation has to look at the prospects and see who helps and how and they have the scouting reports we don’t.

    The problem with assembling a package of prospects to acquire the ‘get over the top’ guy is it does hurt the team which is what’s so funny about Jake Peavy’s trade demands. To often those kind of deals either set a team back or does nothing but just address one problem creating another.

    Rentals make sense especially for the Phils who have to think about how they can contend in October for the next decade which this team is capable of. Look at the Lohse or Moyer deals, an off-the-radar short-term acquisition for a marginal minor leaguer or two can have great effect and most guys will walk with type B status at the very least. It’s not sexy, it’s good baseball management, if you want to go shopping at every opportunity and scrutinise every position that doesn’t have an all-star calibre player just ask the Yankees and Mets how that works out.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    If we want Halladay or Peavy (both slim to no chance of happening)

    It would cost: Carrasco, Bastardo, Donald-or-Marson, and Werth-or-Victorino

    4 players in total..

    It would make our pitching better RIGHT NOW.. but also weaken our lineup.. and we wouldn’t have anyone ready to take Moyer, Blanton, Myers’ spots in the rotation after next season..

    I don’t think Bedard would cost that much, and I think he would improve the rotation greatly

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    I think it should be something along the lines of:

    Hamels
    Bedard/Harang/Haren/Webb/Buerhle
    Blanton
    Happ
    Carrasco/Bastardo/Worley

    I think that you definitely are right that they arent going to the world series again if they just rely on Moyer and throw some young guys in..matter of fact illl guarantee they wont even make the playoffs if they do that. Young arms are effective but theyre going to have growing pains at the major league level. Remember how it took happ a while to get his legs under him. Now hes dealing – he showed me hes legit when he SHUT DOWN the yankee lineup – even though I hate the yankees thats a really really good lineup..

    The key is NOT relying on Moyer. They definitely need a horse up there to replace Brett’s production.

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    I wouldn’t mortgage the future for Peavy. It looks like Blanton figured out what was wrong with his mechanics. I know, only one game, but he did make some good adjustements. So let’s hope we can get it done with:

    Hamels
    Bedard
    Blanton
    Moyer
    Happ

    If Moyer can’t get it done then turn to the minors, but I’d like a deal for Bedard. Sooner rather than later.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Hamels Hamels
    Halladay Peavy
    Cook Cook (or Marquis, who couldn’t hack it in Chicago)
    Blanton Blanton
    Moyer Funny

    Firstly it would be Halladay/Peavy THEN Hamels and secondly coupled with another deal you have to be joking, no-one would have the squeeze for that and come out the other side without being weaker overall. Trade suggestions to easily turn into fantasy/playstation deals.

    (apologies for the double post above)

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    Haren? Didn’t the d-backs trade about 6 players for him and signed him? They won’t trade him.

    Webb is hurt, i wouldn’t look into that too much.

    Buerhle, he’s quite old isn’t he? I don’t know about giving up a bunch of prospects for him.

    Bedard, wouldn’t mind him one bit.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dispy

    WRONG. Look at it this way. Even if that were the deal, Marson would go. He’s not playing here anytime soon. Carrasco can go. Bastardo would hurt. Werth or Vic can go, wouldn’t like it, but our offense is good enough to withstand it. Then you can: plug Donald in OR trade for an outfielder. Trading for an outfielder should not be that difficult OR platoon Donald and Dobbs OR put Mayberry in there. See…..not so bad is it?

    The Dispy

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dispy

    Webb, Haren, Beurle? Fine. Actually, I’d rather have Webb than Peavy.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Mark Buerhle is 28/29

     
  • Posts: 0 Justin

    Harang/Webb/Haren I’d be in favor of but I don’t know what kind of ransom a team like the Reds or DBacks would ask for for each of them. It also rests on their contract situations. Webb if he’s not in his contract year he’s close to it and is going to want a huge payday which he’s already asking the Dbacks for. It will likely cost a good chunk of the farm system to get either of those 3 from their teams as they’ll likely ask for the same pieces the Padres and Indians will/have asked for. Everyone’s looking for the return the Indians got back for Sabathia. Especially after what the Padres couldn’t get when Peavy vetoed the White Sox.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Haren’s ungettable short of sending everything you have plus your grandma.

    Please guys don’t EXPECT Peavy, Halladay, Webb or anyone similar who ‘may’ be available. The idea is incredibly exciting but any of those deals are going to be hard for any team in the league. Just look at how the Cubs fell short of Peavy and they have much more juice in the payroll and farm.

    After the Blanton deal (which was way below his asking price 6 months before) we should know how difficult even a deal for Cook or anyone similar would be and then a year down the line the same people will be screaming about what a bad deal it was and how we shouldn’t have traded the prospects we did.

     
  • Posts: 0 Justin

    I kind of think the Phils could work a small trade out for Penny that could be a good deal, or sign Sheets if he’s proven that he can pitch to his All Star caliber. But who knows I think the Red Sox want Donald in return for Penny who seems to be a utility infielder in the future for the Phillies if he doesn’t become the everyday 3rd baseman. The Pigs are moving him between SS/2nd/and 3rd changing him up to get him use to those 3 positions.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Geoff, I think you’re the only guy ive seen naming Haren as a possibility.. and I don’t think he is.

    They traded for him and then resigned him.. I’ve seen that they might offer Webb around, but with Webb hurting, and Haren under contract, why would they move him now?

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    The Dipsy you seem to speak like you have the inside track on the organisation, who says Marson isn’t playing here soon? or Donald is ready to come up? We don’t know, we can only speculate but not with an kind of authority.

    And what we’d rather have is irrelevant, some talk like the front office and ownership are the big evil and the preventer of ‘real’ success, but what about Toronto’s front office or Arizona or even Colorado or Seattle, their not doing any of us Philly fans a favour and are going to squeeze out everything they can for their guys and we’re not buying with the tag low like we did with Blanton.

     
  • Posts: 0 Sean Chase

    No trade will be made until July. Most likely after all star week. That is when teams decide to make a run for october or not. The way the D Backs are struggling, they may be ready to move Webb. The way the Blue Jays are struggling in the best division in baseball, they may be ready to move a pitcher or two. Until then give the ball to Kendrick. He’s proven he can do it…Sinker, sinker, sinker.

    Dobbs step it up, boy!

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    I idont want Peavy…tahts a trap trade…

    Haren might not even be available…same with Buerhle and Webb. Matt LaPorta is very good, yes, but can anyone remmeber the other guys in the trade? no>? I dont think they were all that highly regarded.

    The point is where does it say that you have to trade jayson werth? Hes not going anywhere. I could see victorino going btu thats not necessary either.

    also, werth is THE only RH power we have that we know can play at the big league level (mayberry probably can but we cant say for sure)

     
 
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