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Can we please do something about our starting rotation.

I’m sorry, I watched a bunch of strikes go over the plate and none which Moyer got. If he’s not getting a plausible strike zone, he’s done. He couldn’t paint the corners because the ump wouldn’t let him. He wasn’t calling strikes (and they were strikes) and there was no way for him to adjust to the strike zone. It was different for every batter. It was bad, but I’m not about to say it’s time for Moyer to throw in the towel. He’s pitched some good games this year.

On a seperate note, it’s a crime that Happ is not a starter.

Greg, one at bat that bugged me was one against Sheffield. Moyer hit the inside corner twice and because Sheffield did a shimmy dance turning away like “oh my, that ball was so inside” the umpire bought it and called it inside, despite clearly being over the corner of the plate.

But regardless, even if Moyer is squeezed, there still has to be an adjustment. 4 of the runs were on those first inning homeruns and the were just bad right down the middle softballs that screamed to be pounded.

Its a shame the third best starter on this team cannot get in the rotation because of a world series hangover and a fluke performance.

So how long before Happ goes into the rotation?

Yeah me too, but at who’s expense? Blanton, Park or Moyer? If it was up to me it’d be Moyer because out of the three he has the worse stuff of the three of them. And I don’t want to trash Moyer unjustifiably because that’s what Geoff does and I want to avoid sounding like him. But I want to see this team win again and right now Moyer gives them the least chance to do that. Happ has the opprotunity to be the 2nd best starter for this team and he does need to start sooner rather than later.

Happ has looked good everytime they hand him the ball. Unfortunately its going to take a complete meltdown by one of the starters to get him in the rotation.

2nd place?

FREE JA HAPP!

2nd place BY A HALF GAME IN MAY!!!!

Why are you coming on a blog and promoting your team like they won the WS. They had 7 runs off of a 46 year old bum, after that NOTHING.

Phillyhater, maybe you should go and re-read some of the gamepost thread then and see your fellow Met brethren and their arrogant comments or those on Metsblog, and then come back and tell me with a straight face that Mets fans aren’t overreacting to 2 games in early May.

Nah, you didn’t get him Little Guy. He comes here regularly spewing his garbage. The only way he disappears is when the Phillies win. That’s what I love about New York fans in general. They’re like stalkers who lurk in the bushes, waiting for a loss so they can jump out and go “boo!” I can just picture them crouching down saying “wait, for it….NOW!”

Nah, I didn’t get him either. He’ll be back….he usually is waiting in the bushes.

I do sometimes wonder what really provokes people to go to other blogs and post as the opposition, but not constructively, but as overall jerks wanting to start a fight. It’s like they don’t have actual friends or a life, because really, the only person they amuse is themselves in doing so.

Why do Mets fans come on here expecting to be praised for winning? Christ, just read the comments here:
http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/07/post-game-mets-7-phillies-5/#comments

I’ve got close friends that are Mets fans and at least they show some class.. you should take their lead and stop trolling ANOTHER TEAM’S message board like morons. There’s no reason to gloat; your team are the reigning world champions of choke and the season is just underway.

You better hope to high hell that you guys don’t pack it in again in September.. one four game winning streak and you guys are going crazy over your rotation; yet just a week ago I heard every dummy on the Fan (I live in CT) call in whining about how the starting pitching needs to change.

On a Phils’ rotation note – I really think we’re going to need to make some changes, maybe even make a move mid-season. We’re giving up the long ball like crazy. Moyer is showing signs of wear. Blanton has been weak and Park has been awful until last night. It’s a good thing the pen (and the offense as always) has been picking up the slack; otherwise we’d be in a real deep hole. Happ has shown some good stuff in relief.

What about Kendrick; he hasn’t been so shabby in the minors, right? Anyone seen him pitch this year?

Hey guys, remember that line we heard often..the season is a marathon, not a sprint. With nearly five months of basball to be played (136 games left), Charlie Manual with Rich Dubee are not going to make rash decisions regarding the rotation. I’m sure they will give every opportunity to their troubled starters in making the necessary adjustments. Their patience were rewarded with Park by his outstanding effort against the Mets. Blanton had a quality start his last time out. Myers is a veteran whose experience suggests that he can find a necessary solution for himself. Needless to say, the crafty Moyer has bounced back a zillion times in his long and productive career.

Nothing has changed in his approach and delivery for all those years. Moyer knows his mistakes and won’t use the excuse of a home plate umpire “squeezing” the strike zone on him (which appears to happened with some batters tonite). He knows he has to “paint” the corners of the plate and change speeds to be effective. He obviously didn’t fare well in doing so against the suddenly hot bats of the streaking Mets (4-game win streak). I’m confident that Moyer will again “bounce” back with a strong effort in his next start.

The most important key for the rotation to have success this season is obviously Hamels. Once Hamels is healthy (keep our fingers crossed) and regain his form and rhythm , he will give the rest of the starters a much needed lift and stablized the rotation.

By the way, much praise to our bullpen tonight with five plus shutout innings of relief and kept the Phillies in the game in a losing cause. A ton of credit to the pitching coach, Dubee in overseeing the improvements of Condrey, Happ and Taschner who were in tonight’s game.

No surprise, that after 25 plus games one sees all four contenders in the NL East division tightly bunched with a margin of no more than two games separating them. With so much parity among the teams, it will be a free for all to the final month.

you guys are agreeing with me…thats what im saying..how cany ANYONE be talking smack in MAY….im not one of those mets fans who talk after a series in may…but give credit where its due…like with victorino when he walked with the bases loaded…i just dont get how any one of our teams fan bases can be talking anything right now..we are in may…im just saying the fact is we beat you regarding the post…even last night…saying johan was good but we should have won we left 13 men on base ok but johan got out of the jams…and then saying Park was BRILLIANT…he was…but you gotta say johan was brilliant too…i just dont see how anyone can be talking in may when we played each other 4 times…

Uh phillyhater, first question, why are you on a Phillies blog? 2nd, pointing out standings and all that in May is talking smack last time I checked. Who was the first one to point out standings?…The quote is “2nd place BY A HALF GAME IN MAY!!!!” Thats in caps, wanna know who said that? Phillyhater. Not sure why you are coming on later and saying “how cany ANYONE be talking smack in MAY….im not one of those mets fans who talk after a series in may…” and then say “oh and it sucks when the mets have a bullpen doesnt it?…” All you have been doing is talking smack. Today (unlike yesterday honestly) the Mets won legitamately, but really you are being a hypocrite dude.

I guess one up side to this game was that none of the Philly hitters struck out. This is a great thing considering Howard and Werth having 0-fers the other night striking out in each at bat. I love the way Howard is taking the ball to the opposite field as he did in the first inning.

Its hilarious when you guys lose and you try to make it out like these games didn’t really mean anything. Generally, yeah you’re right. Its the beginning of May, a lot of games to be played. But, oh, if the Phillies won these games, your reaction would be the same as ours. We’re all fanatics about our teams, thats why we talk about this stuff from day 1 of spring training. So don’t try to play it cool and say it doesnt matter, because it does. You’ll hear crap from Mets fans when we win and we expect to hear the same crap back when we lose. Its all in good fun guys. And I’m not trying to invade in on your blog here, I’ll chime in every once in a while because I find it more interesting and entertaining.

two sweep that’s a moron. I think that we should get happ in the rotation to take the place of Park, and the phillies have to promote either stutes or worley to lehig Valley just in case we have to replace Jamie or Joe Blanton. By the way amaro talk it sounded like he wouldn’t wait long to pull the trigger. Peavy or Holliday Peavy has three years left on his contract. offer Taylor, marson and a pitcher like stutes. and go from there.

… and then he said “bla bla bla”
… and I said “bla bla bla”
Repeat the above ad-nauseam!!
Enough name calling. These are two evenly matched teams at the moment. I saw 2 groups of Phils/Mets fans in our section call each other out at Saturday’s game. Whether they followed through I don’t know. I do know they weren’t in their seats for the end of the game.
My point; this is no different than a movie, a concert or any other form of entertainment. It’s Batman vs Superman and it doesn’t matter. It feels good when they win and bad when they loose. Then no matter what, we get up the next morning, do our day’s work and get ready for the next game.

This is a marathon. I can’t believe that we’re talking about a 2 game sweep. First of all, a mini-series like this shouldn’t be called a sweep. It was a good home series for the Mets. I hate to give them their props, but they won the games in the end. The Phils just need to get more consistant. Remember, there are always going to be ups and downs in a season. We just beat the Cardinals, who were red hot. Now we lose to the Mets, who were pretty hot themselves. It’ll all come out in the wash.

The bigger concerns are the quality starts by our starting pitching. We’ve maybe had 5 quality starts all year. THAT is what’s concerning. I’m more worried about the pen getting worn out. We need someone to step up and become the leader of the rotation early in the season. So far, the best pitchers on the team are Happ, Madson and Lidge and Condry. Let’s hope a starter gets into that list soon!

I read that link up there posted by someone linking to Metsblog. Talk about some angry fans. I dont care what sport your a fan of or who you like or dislike but you dont wish harm on another player. Hope Vic gets a ball thrown at his ribs huh? Im sorry but you just dont wish harm on another player reguarless of team or rivalry.

When you have to rely on the umpires strike zone to determine whether or not youre even going to be able to get people out, then its time to go.