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Charlie’s gotta be hit pretty hard by this. After all, Manny was practically a protege of his in Cleveland, wasn’t he? He must feel that this reflects pretty poorly on him.

Winners never cheat – cheaters never win. Never been more true – as long as you’ve got the definition of winning right.

My whole view on the PED’s.. is Tell me that the players aren’t trying to find substances to say they took as their excuse.. Romero may or may not have been taking something from GNC.. but how do we know that he wasn’t ALSO taking something else too

If I was a cheating-player, I would try to find a substance that would “cover my steps” if I tested positive for something else..

I think A-Roid tried to do that, because I heard in multiple places that the things he tested positive for weren’t actually in the substances he claimed he used.. I doubt the media wanted to put money into testing what JC Romero may or may not have used

I wonder what Charlie really knows about Manny. He could provide some insight into his Cleveland years. Was there even a reason to think he was doing something during any of those years? Or was it just the last few years when he start to hit that wall and was like Bonds and couldn’t handle being less of a player so he turned to something else.

Manny is a great hitter, but always being able to produce just raises red flags these days. Anytime you ask yourself how the heck a guy can do what he is doing you just have to wonder. I love Manny Ramirez as a hitter, love his style and his approach and swing, but I just don’t know how much of his production was a result of doing PED’s. It’s not that it made him a great hitter, but it certainly could have made him produce more. Beefing up his numbers. I for one am still a fan of Ramirez I just can’t look at his overall numbers the same. He’s still got a great swing.

really?

Lets just not respond to posts that have alternating CaPitAL leTtERs.. OR.. start deleting posts that have nothing to do with baseball ..??

Stairs is great. Manuel truly feels pain for Manny. We all know Charlie loves Manny. Lidge’s quote made me laugh though. I was thinking to myself that Lidge should feel even better about winning the NLCS over the Dodgers, who may have had a cheater on their team.

Nevermind the Romero facts…

would we expect anything less from Muts fans…..

I’m with Don on this one.

I agree with Don. Is it possible to put up an approval system for the postings, Tim? I really like your blog, and enjoy your insight. This flame war stuff is just really annoying. If a Mets fan wants to come on and discuss real baseball, that’s fine. I just hate reading all the inflamitory comments.

agreed. so I’m going to be an armchair GM here and throw out the question of what on earth are we going to do with this starting rotation. Pretty soon the lineup is going to get discouraged because their pitching is not backing them up AT ALL. This team has the best lineup in the league and frankly our pitchers are good they just stink this year. My vote is to send Myers back down to the minors for a few starts. That did him a world of good last year and it might be the shock he needs to get back into it this year. I would then pull Moyer, even though he is my fave and I respect him greatly, and put Happ in the rotation. Park and Blanton both had solid starts on their last outings, but you’re never sure which pitcher is going to show up on any given day so I say have carasco waiting in the wings to take over one of their spots if their pitching does not become more consistent. We also should trade one of our up and comers for a consistent pitcher; I’m thinking (King) Felix Hernandez for jason donald and possibly kyle kendrick. he’s young and his stats are very impressive, can we get him and are we smart enough to is the question. any thoughts on what to do with the rotation?

In July, I think we’ll have a better idea of what to do about the rotation. I’m all for bringing in Happ and Carrasco and letting them have their chance, though. Let them light a fire underneath Myers. Blanton will come around. He’s a good pitcher when he’s on, and not as bad as Myers when he’s off.

Felix Hernandez wont be available..thats liek trading Cole Hamels. Why would you trade your young ace who is still cheap? For a bad starting pitcher (Kendrick) and Donald – who is still a prospect…the GM that does that should be fired in Seattle…

Guys available could be Jake Peavy, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Erik Bedard, Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, Doug Davis, Roy Oswalt, Mark Buerhle, Jose Contreras, Kevin Millwood, Chris Young, among others.

The Phillies would go get a guy liek Doug Davis or something like that for cheap.

But if the starting pitching really doesnt improve then they have to go and get a front end guy…Id suggest Buerhle if Chicago is out of it.

I mean, Jason Donald and one of the Phils young arms would be the primary chips to trade. If Carrasco doesnt improve by July, they very well could move him with so many great young arms behind him, including Mike Stutes and Kyle Drabek coming not too long from now.

I thought Buerhle was a Fly-ball pitcher?

OK it was just a though or rather a dream to get hernandez i mean we need SOMETHING! and the chances of getting halladay are slim with the jays in first place…

every player is available inder the right circumstances and for the right price.

sounds like manny is just playing dumb to save face. id say the same was with romero, but jc is actually trying to get a lawsuit against the people who misguided him right?

ive always hated manny anyway and i cant wait for the dodgers to tumble down that NL west

It seems as though we are all getting mad because the Mets right now are a better ball club. We Pretty much got our buts handed to us by these muts.

Shawn Victorini, being the dirty little scumbag that he is, is most likely a juicer.

I mean, really, how tough can this be? Stairs said it all in the simplest terms-If you’re not sure, just don’t take it, pure and simple, easy as pie. I feel the same about JC, sorry, but ultimately each player is responsible for himself, there’s really no gray area, you test positive, you’re out.