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THE DIPSY’S HANDICAP – THE STARTER THE PHILS WILL TRADE FOR ON JULY 18.

As the spring turns into summer, and the swallows return to Capustrano, a teams start to realize who they are and who they aren’t. Thats said, lets take a look at the pitchers the Phils are most likely to trade for this summer to eat innings, keep the ball in the park, and push Brett Myers down to #3 starter, only one spot above where he actually belongs.

Dan Haren 50-1. The Diamondbacks suck now but they have pitching and I think they’ll bounce back so Haren probably won’t go anywhere. Even if the D’Backs are shitcanned by July and the D’Backs look to move him, the Phillies will NOT give up the boatload of talent Arizona will want. Think Donald, Marson, Carrasco AND Victorino.

Mark Buerhle 25-1. He’s still good but he makes a lotta money but he MIGHT be the kinda guy the Phils might look at if he’s merely pitching well as the season goes on and not tearing it up. Plus the Sox have to blow, which they will.

Erik Bedard – 22-1 Hey, this guy can pitch. He’s been in Seattle for a while now and he’s pitched really well. Makes good coin and Seattle doesn’t really have a history of deadline dumps. Plus he’s not that old. But, as with all of these teams, if Seattle gets bad enough, the M’s would have to consider trading him for the right price.

Gil Meche – 20-1. 2 years ago it was “Gil who”? Now he’s a nice pitcher. Can pitch innings. Very solid….and a Royal so the sharks will be circling sooner or later.

Jon Garland 13 – 1. The kind of pitcher the Phils like. Very Blanton-ish right now: Lotsa innings, doesn’t dominate but keeps you in games. A vet. If the D’backs fall apart this will be the guy that goes.

Roy Oswalt 7-1. The salary, the “bad” arm, the bad team he plays for and their bad management. He’s reached his apex but he’s not so bad on his way down the bell curve. Still capable of 15 wins, 210 IP and a 3.40 ERA. I’ll take it. And he’s in his walk year.

Aaron Cook 5-1. Ah yes…this guy. Has quietly put together a string of good years playing in Denver. He’s 30. Not young. Not old. Makes money but not too much. If the Rockies tank they may feel they have enough good young pitching to let him go. And we’ll give them a pitching prospect, too. he would be sweet.

The Phillies are W.S. champs and any man that doesn’t feel that the Phils have a MORAL obligation to bolster the roster in a meaningful way if they find themselves in mid July with Cole Hamel and the Hamlettes (ok, I know its a little off) is no fan I care to know. Ruben…..commence dialing.

The Dispy

I totally agree Jeff. They will get someone though. I keep thinking about Jon Garland, though. Probably a 3/4 starter type who will do them no good in the playoffs. My thing is that Marson or Ruiz and Donald are blocked. Donald can play right I guess and move Werth to center and trade Vic. Or third but I love Feliz there. So. What are you gonna do leave Marson and Donald down? Trade em. Thats what you do with a good farm sytem. Plug in the positions you need and trade off your quality excess.

The Dipsy

To be honest with you this signing makes me think that perhaps a trade may be in the works. I know the sox were interested in Marson earlier in the year. Perhaps with another albeit less inspiring major league ready catcher in the minors the Phils are going to move him for a starting pitcher. We would still have Travis coming up even though he’s several years away.

Havoc…….ah, I don’t think so.

The Dispy

Well Bruce, and I’m not being sarcastic when I say, that you probably lead a rich and rewarding life. I don’t. I live in my parents basement. I spent days putting that list together. To have it so easily dismissed in the manner you chose hurts a bit. But thats ok. I have lists upon list that I have planned for the near future.

The Dipsy

I think the mets will get Cliff Lee But I hope they can some how get Adrian Gonzalez.

If they can’t get any of them they can get Nick Johnson for a cheap price. I also forgot about Abuery Huff.

Geoff, Garland is OK. You should take a look at Cook over the last three years. The guys can just flat out pitch. As for Oswalt, if you you give me a team full of players of guys that sucked at the WBC, Id have a pretty damn good team.

The Dipsy

It looks like the mets will get johnson. or de rosa according to mlb. and then they will according to reports try for peavy, They have the prospect according to what I am reading, The owners have open the checkbook to whatever it takes. Peavy would get a extension for waving his no trade. if not then it’s badard for sure.

The phillies just traded for manny ayala a relief pitcher

Where you see that mikemike?

Also, who did they give up?

phuture phillies?

Thought they did that a while ago…

Ohh, i was thinking of Luis Ayala, the RHP for the Nats whose pretty good..

what kind of deal could be in the works with the sox???? nothing probably i would like to see somthing but if there was a deal i woul think it would involve marson and maby myers (contract year remember)???

Not sure who we’d get or if the sox’s would want to deal a pitcher, but I know they want a catcher for the future and do have a surplus of major leage ready pitching. Of course seeing as that’s the one glaring weakness on our team it’s unlikely we’ll get anyone decent for even a fair trade, when team’s know you only need one or two pieces they like to over charge you.

I know its totally off topic, but there was nowhere else to post it. Anyone get a chance to watch the mets totally blow that game? A bunch of errors and communication problems helped the Dodgers big time.Lets get a win tomorrow ! P.S. Church next time touch the bag haha

Yeah, this move does nothing to excite me.

How about Mark Buerle coming over from the Sox?

The Dispy

Buerhle is the one to go after. Bedard would cost less, but Buerhle is under contract next year too I beleive. This guy would tear up the National League.

My Guess:

Drabek is off limits, Taylor and Brown are off Limits, and Im not sure about carrasco.

So:

Michael Stutes, John Mayberry, JR, David (name?) Schwimmer, & ONE of Lou Marson/Jason Donald.

Would anyone do that? I mean, this is mark Buerhle were talking about here, I think it might be worth it since hes under contract for a year longer at least. can someone verify the contract?

The only untouchables are Drabek, because he projects as a one or two. and the way brown is developing it would be hard to part with him. He is a five tool stud. Yesterday the phillies said he isn’t in reading. because they want to go slow with him. Taylor is really coming on but he had diabetis and sit out games. Maybe they would part with him .

Carrasco in the right deal will be move. You have to remember he projects as a three or four, according to scouts, law and others who really know prospect, so if you can pay the money to a buerhle and it for more than one season, you make the move buerhle is already a established two or three carrasco might never make it so if you are serious about another pennant and series you do it, and also for the first time in years they have a lot of arms. three more of those arms are in extended spring waiting for willamsport to start. May, Cosart, arroylo

phils have $20+ million coming off the books after 2009 in Myers/Eaton…I think if they can make a deal without killing their minor league system they will come summer….which means anyone in that $5-$14 million range could be in play as long as they’re also signed for 2010..at that price, myers could be resigned for a more reasonable 3 years – $21 deal and they strengthen team for ’09/’10 without adding ’10 salary from ’09 levels. We know there is no way Bretty gets anything on the open market resembling the $12 million phils paying him this year plus he wants to stay in philly so 3 yrs $20-$25 million is about right.

big question is do the phils have enough in their system to go after a Buehrle/Peavy/Haren/Bedard come July? They could easily add a Garland or a Cook but I don’t see that happening unless injuries hit the staff…they’re locked into Moyer this year and he will get 20+ starts at minimum before any hook. you just don’t yank a guy after 7 starts coming off a 16-7 3.71 era season and two year big contract signing…he’ll get 20+ to prove he didn’t age out of the league over the winter. blanton will get 20+ starts as well, he has proven he is a solid(if unspectacular) major league starting pitcher.

boy would be nice to land one of the big arms come July and go to battle with Hamels Myers and ____ _____ come september. I think they’ll do it money wise if they can mak a deal that makes sense.

Peavy is going to hold up any east coast trade with crazy demands to waive his only certain team deal. I like him but he will cost a bundle, plus san diego will want so much it might just be better to pass. What I Don’t get is you can go to a winning team why not/