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Gamenight: Blue Jays (35-31) At Phillies (36-26)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, June 17, 2009 05:48 PM | Comments: 200
Gameday 2009, Posts

jayslogo Toronto Blue Jays (35-31) at Philadelphia Phillies (36-26)
Scott Richmond (4-3, 3.90 ERA) vs. Jamie Moyer (4-5, 6.11 ERA)
Time: 7:05 p.m. at Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
Weather: Rain, 64
TV: Comcast SportsNet, ESPN
Twitter: Phillies Nation

Probably should’ve been a win last night, but you know …

It’s okay, because tonight Jamie Moyer will take on a bunch of guys he hasn’t faced much. Oh wait, he has. The following batting averages against Jamie Moyer since 2004: Marco Scutaro (.379), Lyle Overbay (.462), Aaron Hill (.375), Vernon Wells (.350), Alex Rios (.474), John McDonald (.444), Scott Rolen (.333).

Meanwhile the Phillies have never seen Toronto starter Scott Richmond. There are literally two kinds of results you see when the Phils face a new pitcher: Either he completely dominates them or they thrash him up and down. Richmond is a fastball-slider pitcher who gets killed by lefties (1.055 OPS), so if the meat of the order can do work tonight, it should be an easy victory. Of course, Raul Ibanez is hitting just .220 in his last nine games, and Ryan Howard is hitting .216 with 17 strikeouts in his last 11. Both span back to the series in San Diego.

Clay Condrey’s back still ails, so consider him unavailable tonight. The same might be said for Tyler Walker, who allowed a two-run double in the 10th last night.

Your gamenight beer: Budweiser Budvar. Wait, a good Budweiser? This one is a Czech pilsner, so good luck finding it. But hey, it’s a cool summer lager you can enjoy with any summer fare. I’d go with pizza tonight.

Go Phillies!

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  • Posts: 0 Greg V.

    The Budvar brewery has been around centuries longer than the Budweiser one. Bud just has the distribution rights to it in the States, where I believe it is refered to as Czechvar. Still a quliaty brew!

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Holy crap, look at those BAs against Moyer. Could get ugly on national TV for Jamie.

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    From High Cheese:

    Chris Coste will start behind the plate tonight in place of Carloe Ruiz with lefthander Jamie Moyer on the mound against Toronto.
    Coste will start for the fourth time in Moyer’s last five starts.
    Moyer is 4-1 with Coste behind the plate and 0-4 with Ruiz.

    Here is tonight’s lineup:

    1. Jimmy Rollins, SS
    2. Shane Victorino, CF
    3. Chase Utley, 2B
    4. Ryan Howard, 1B
    5. Raul Ibanez, LF
    6. Jayson Werth, RF
    7. Pedro Feliz, 3B
    8. Chris Coste, C
    9. Jamie Moyer, LHP

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    Not in Philly, so anyone know if the game is gonna get through with the rain. Is it currently raining?

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    Blue Jays placed Roy Halladay, Casey Janssen and Scott Downs on DL. So Phillies facing Brad Mills tomorrow making his MLB Debut. Was like 1-4 with a 4.48 era in triple A.

     
  • Posts: 0 rob

    It’s not exactly pilsner weather out there… you’d do better with a serious, burnt to a crisp stout like Boulder Beer Co.’s Obovoid Empirical.

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    Vernon Wells, OF, Blue Jays: Blue Jays hitters have extensive experience — and success — against Jamie Moyer. Wells is one of their standouts, with a lifetime .342 batting average (13-for-38) and two homers versus the left-hander.
    • Alex Rios, OF, Blue Jays: He’s a .474 hitter (9-for-19) with four doubles, one triple and one home run in his career against Moyer.
    • Lyle Overbay, 1B, Blue Jays: The rare lefty-versus-lefty matchup in which you want the hitter. Overbay is a surprising 6-for-13 (.462 BA) with one double, one triple and one home run in his career against Moyer. He’s also a .309 hitter with three home runs, eight RBIs and a .912 OPS in 15 career games at Citizens Bank Park.
    Marco Scutaro, 2B/3B/SS, Blue Jays: He’s a .379 hitter (11-for-29) with three home runs in his career against Jamie Moyer.

    Philadelphia (Blue Jays-Phillies, 70 percent of Rain).

     
  • Posts: 0 cm

    can it not rain tonight? thanks

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    gird your loins
    make sacrifices to the baseball gods

    yeah, why they don’t mix up the rotation for more favorable match-ups is beyond me. I mean 5 days rest is nice but not always necessary. Hope Park is available as long man

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    should be a slugfest tonight and that aint good for Phillies because bullpen needs rest and need Moyer to go deep against the Blue Jays a team which has sluggers who have destroyed Moyer and that to in CBP a hitters park.

    Wow, just checked on MLB.com. Every Blue Jays hitter is hitting .300 against Moyer in his career except for Rod Barajas (.200), Kevin Millar (.143) and Jose Bautista (.000). Not to mention the Blue Jays best player this year has never faced Moyer which is Adam Lind. Should be like the 14-12 Brewers win at Indians on Monday night. Also gotta remember Richmond will either be fantastic against the Phillies or horrendous. He’s never faced the phillies before. Hopefully history proves wrong and Moyer pitches a solid game.

     
  • Posts: 0 shag beta sigma delta

    all you doom and gloomers I have faith in Jamie tonight, he is going mow them down I do not care about history, the middle of line up needs to score more than 3 runs against this guy, like I said before, Moyer 6 innings 2 runs, Park pitches 7 8 9 for the save 7-2.
    Some time you gotta have a little faith.
    Go PHillies

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Travis: interesting stat about coste/ruiz/moyer…coste has said he’ll let pitchers call pitches which I am usually dead against unless you’ve got a crafty, cerebal control guy like Moyer…Maybe Moyer’s getting to call the game more so than with Ruiz, and this is contributing in some way to the success behind the stat.

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    Blue Jays Lineup for Tonight:

    1. Scutaro SS
    2. Hill 2B
    3. Wells CF
    4. Rolen 3B
    5. Lind LF
    6. Rios RF
    7. Overbay 1B
    8. Barajas C
    9. Richmond P

    Same lineup as yesterday for Jays except Overbay (.462, 1HR against Moyer) replaces Kevin Millar.

     
  • Posts: 0 Travis

    Blue Jays Hitters who have faced Jamie Moyer before have a combined .386 BA, with 6 Homers and 20 RBI

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I, on the other hand, have NO confidence in Jamis tonite. Look for Chan Ho to enter with two outs left in the sixth. He’ll pitch through the 8th and then that Tyler Walker guy will take the ninth. Suffice it to say, I don’t like the Phightins tonite. But I AM looking forward to Chris Wheeler.

    The Dispy

    “Always striving to make the Phillies a better team”

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    7-1 win tonight for the Blue Jays…i know, but thats my gut feeling.

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Ok guys, we got a game with the Blue Jays tonight. And that only means one thing. Bad News for the Blue Jays!

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Well, this could be an omen. But I spent two and half months of my life in Budejovice, CZ. And drank plenty of Budvar there. It is absolutely great there. But when I get it here, about 50% of them are skunked. Kind of like Jaime Moyer outings. There is a good chance that it can be a gem, but there is also a chance it can get really ugly. And like a skunked beer, you know right off the bat.

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    anyone know who’s calling the game….does he have a pro-moyer strike zone

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Moyer looking sharp

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    oh boy! big bats might have to carry us home tonight

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Moyer looking real sharp

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    This sucks. So much for giving the pen rest. Could be a long one again tonight folks.

     
  • Posts: 0 Adam

    hey, at least he’s throwing strikes. right?

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    Told you 7-1 Jays tonight

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    This is a disgrace. Im glad I dont have season tickets anymore. You should not have to pay watch a pitcher like Moyer. He gives us no chance to win.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Little Guy

    Why doesn’t Coste ever throw the ball like a baseball player, i guess he likes being on his knees?

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Moyer, can you at least hold the runners on? If the runners hadn’t stolen, that ground ball by Rios would have been a double play!!!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    DAM RUBIN do something with this pitching staff already. Before its to late. Get rid of Moyer, move Bastaro to the pen and make a trade. My god down 3 already and the bullpen tired. This is a joke.

     
  • Posts: 0 John Fire

    That’s it. Sell the GD farm… we need some friggin’ pitching!!! AAAAAGHHHH!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    It’s amazing the difference you can tell with a team like Toronto where most of these guys have faced Jamie a bunch. He isn’t even missing his spots but they are locked in to everything he is throwing. He is gonna have to really battle tonight to keep us in it.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    watch how fast we go 1 2 3 in the first.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Jeff where were you at for Moyer’s last 4 starts (which were all quality starts)? I’m tired of everyone jumping on Moyer and Blanton when they have a bad start when they totally ignore every time they do something right. It’s the first freaking inning everyone.

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    with the O’s up next, they should have moved the rotation around…the match-ups aren’t in Moyer’s favor.

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    could this Richmond work any slower….

     
  • Posts: 0 The Checkered Demon

    MOYER SHOULD DO THE NOBLE THING — retire !!!!, AT THIS POINT, HE IS STEALING MONEY FROM US. Damn shame.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    The Orioles are a better hitting team than the Jays.

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt

    get this man off the mound and into a retiring home.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Damn it. I wanted at least one there.

     
  • Posts: 0 Joshua

    thats pathetic…all the guys who struck out swung at balls outside the strike zone!Howard even let up on that pitch!

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    We are gonna score off this dude. He can’t throw a breaking pitch for a strike and his fastball was up in the zone. If we continue to be patient and work the count we are gonna get back in this one real soon.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Oh stop Miles. you could hit Moyer. His last four starts. 2 were against Florida and Washington. He did pitch well against the Dodgers but gave up 8 hits and 3 runs to the Mets. Against a good team he has no chance…LIKE TONIGHT DIP

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    “We are gonna score off this dude. He can’t throw a breaking pitch for a strike and his fastball was up in the zone. ”

    I think you meant to say, this guy can’t throw a breaking pitch for a strike and his fastball was up in the zone which means our guys will take a bunch of real ugly hacks against him. and strike out.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Matt, Jeff, and Checkered Demon….your whining about Moyer is very unwarranted. He had a terrible stretch earlier this year but has been pitching just fine over the last month. Aside from tonight obviously. The point is that his numbers are very similar to Cole’s over the last month so you can’t just choose to constantly complain about Moyer when other members of the rotation are posting similar numbers.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    yea ok Miles by that time we will be down by 7. Moyer wont get out of the second or third.

     
  • Posts: 0 shag beta sigma delta

    I am sorry but Moyer did not get those pitches called strikes below the belt. That 3-1 count on Raul was a ball for Moyer, these umps are getting really bad with inconsistancies, let’s hear it Geoff, I can take it. The guy is not going to throw strikes 2-0 3-1 to the lefties, they should just take the walks, Chase, and Raul swinging at sliders in the dirt. But if this Ump is going to make Jamie throw pitches above the belt in order to get a strike called it is going to be a long night.
    And i do not want hear how Richmond is a good pitcher, he is not, he been given a few gifts already at the plate but this offense should rock this guy, if they make him throw real strikes

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Well, I don’t know if you can really carry a guy with a 6.50 era into July, if Jamie can get that far. I don’t care if you’re Cy Young. Three months is enough time to “get out of your funk”. As I write this Barajas has hit a home run. OK, back to my post. As they say in the GM biz…”its dialin’ time”. Gentlemen….start your fingers.

    The Dipsy

    “Always striving to make the Phillies a better team”

     
  • Posts: 0 shag beta sigma delta

    Stop the hating Moyer already, one bad inning, after three stellar starts and you jumping off the bridge. Give the hating a rest,

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Stop making excuses…ITS TIME FOR MOYER TO HANG IT UP. Teams love hitting him. I heard Wells today on a toronto channel. He said its like batting practce..

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Jeff what exactly warrants a “good team” to you? Just a team that beat us last night? Because coming into this game the Jays hadn’t won a game in interleague and have very similar offensive numbers to all of the teams you just named (Washington, FLorida, NYMutts). Sooo I don’t really know what you are trying to say.

    Listen the guy is pitching bad tonight but I have never seen anything like the people who come out in droves on here and bash Moyer when he has a bad night.

     
 
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