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Gamenight: Blue Jays (35-31) At Phillies (36-26)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, June 17, 2009 05:48 PM | Comments: 200
Gameday 2009, Posts

jayslogo Toronto Blue Jays (35-31) at Philadelphia Phillies (36-26)
Scott Richmond (4-3, 3.90 ERA) vs. Jamie Moyer (4-5, 6.11 ERA)
Time: 7:05 p.m. at Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
Weather: Rain, 64
TV: Comcast SportsNet, ESPN
Twitter: Phillies Nation

Probably should’ve been a win last night, but you know …

It’s okay, because tonight Jamie Moyer will take on a bunch of guys he hasn’t faced much. Oh wait, he has. The following batting averages against Jamie Moyer since 2004: Marco Scutaro (.379), Lyle Overbay (.462), Aaron Hill (.375), Vernon Wells (.350), Alex Rios (.474), John McDonald (.444), Scott Rolen (.333).

Meanwhile the Phillies have never seen Toronto starter Scott Richmond. There are literally two kinds of results you see when the Phils face a new pitcher: Either he completely dominates them or they thrash him up and down. Richmond is a fastball-slider pitcher who gets killed by lefties (1.055 OPS), so if the meat of the order can do work tonight, it should be an easy victory. Of course, Raul Ibanez is hitting just .220 in his last nine games, and Ryan Howard is hitting .216 with 17 strikeouts in his last 11. Both span back to the series in San Diego.

Clay Condrey’s back still ails, so consider him unavailable tonight. The same might be said for Tyler Walker, who allowed a two-run double in the 10th last night.

Your gamenight beer: Budweiser Budvar. Wait, a good Budweiser? This one is a Czech pilsner, so good luck finding it. But hey, it’s a cool summer lager you can enjoy with any summer fare. I’d go with pizza tonight.

Go Phillies!

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  • Posts: 0 Rich

    Put a stamp on it and mail this one in to the league as a loss.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Alright Jeff just stop watching the game then. Obviously you had decided after the Jays scored their first run tonight that we were not going to win, so why watch? Oh and did we go 1,2,3 as you suggested in the first? Cmon dude you know how this team can hit and come back in games so just get over it and either turn off the TV or stop being so damn negative.

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Even the black Dr. Evil, who is in a terrible slump, is scorching the ball

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Listen to me guys I am actually leading in my fantasy league and I should be a MLB GM. Moyer stinks, hes so old and stinky, I think he needs to hang it up so we can get aaron cook, he’s just great aint he.

    The Dipsy

    “Always striving to be a bigger douche”

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Is it possible for a guy to retire in the middle of a game?

     
  • Posts: 0 Griffin

    Let’s go Orioles.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    Rod Barajas really likes beating up on the Phillies, he sucked here yet is doing quite well in Canada, either there is something in the water up north or he is roiding and got some explaining to do.

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    “one bad inning, after three stellar starts ” Is Moyer pitching for another team also?

    The guy has one win in 6 weeks.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Miles are you crazy. He has a era over 6. When a pitcher gives up 3 run in a first inning you give your team no chance. He does more and more. When is it enough. Do you see these pitches they are hitting. Even the outs are getting crushed.

     
  • Posts: 0 nate

    now they make the whole thing more unbearable by showing the WS walkoff.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Morris since when do wins actually mean anything? Jamie and Cole both have 4 wins this year. I think you would be the first to say that Cole has been more effective than Jamie. Wins have little to do with a pitcher’s performance. Andrew Carpenter won a game against the Nats and he gave up 5 runs and couldn’t even get through 5 innings.

     
  • Posts: 0 george

    Man the Phils need to do something with moyer soon we can’t keep putting him out there and relying on him to give us quality start when we know he isn’t…Either move him to the bullpen or talk him into retirement.

     
  • Posts: 0 John Fire

    Thank you, Jaime Moyer, for your years of service. I’ve heard a rumor that some kids down in Triple-A were asking about you. what say you head down there and be a mentor and leave the major league starting pitching to some other folks, huh?

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    griffin: nope Jays hit better [at least statistically] than O’s
    HR AVG RBI SLG
    68 .267 277 .422 O’s
    71 .277 316 .438 Jays
    don’t know the moyer vs. O’s stats. but the one’s Travis put up for the Jays vs. moyer are ugly.

     
  • Posts: 0 Joshua

    Well atleast the Mets are losing

     
  • Posts: 0 The Checkered Demon

    I took a quick nap in dispair regarding Ole Jamie Moyer. I had a dream that he developed a knuckleball that was quite outstanding. In the dream he said he was working on the pitch for a decade and finally rolled it out. He won back-to-back no-hitters. Please do not pince me.
    Moyer is the perfect pitcher to have a knuckler.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Jeff I’m not saying Moyer is a Cy Young candidate here….but there is a big difference between a guy who should retire and someone who can still win ballgames. Eaton should retire. He can’t get anyone out, ever. If you take out Moyer’s horrible three start stretch where he gave up 5+ runs each time out his ERA is the same as every other starter on the staff, including the supposed ace.

    Listen he’s obviously slipping but he still can pitch in the majors. That’s all I’m trying to say. And I don’t understand why we have twice as many comments on this board when we lose games then we do when we win games. Somehow even just a few months after a WS championship and with a lead in the division we still have a very negative fanbase.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    Yeah lets get rid of Moyer and let Carpenter or Kendrick start, they are great and will do fantastic just like Bastardo has already.

    Everyone shut up, he is our best option and will continue to pitch. If we do acquire another starter they will replace Bastardo not Moyer. This is the same team that got some hits off Cole last night and have had some good luck with ground balls getting through the holes today.

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Wins means you are not giving up a lot of runs, and you are pitching deep into games. You have a better chance of winning the game if you do one of those two things. Jamie Moyer does neither.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Checkered Demon

    He Miles, I am not good at much, but give me someting to whine about and my skills come out. Anyway, you must be a good whiner to whine about our whining. Respectfully —Checkered Demon

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Thank god for Alex Rios.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Great baserunning

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Miles he cant win ball games. Are you for real. He gives us no chance. Its like batting practice. He is KILLING THIS DAM TEAM. Please dont bring hamels up. There is a BIG difference. Hamels can get batters out. Yes he is in a funk but he is a big time pitcher. Moyer should of never been on this team this year. He does not give us any chance to win. There is no confidence with the players when he pitches.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    What are you doing Jimmy….

     
  • Posts: 0 nate

    ugh… well if the leadoff hitter can’t even bunt, i can’t fault the pitcher.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    And really everyone needs to let Jeff Carter go, it was 16 years ago and it was game 6 not game 7, even if we won that game we still had to win another one.

    We have won our championship and got the monkey off our back so let it go. It gets treated like Buckner for the Sox, and they let it go after they won theirs.

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    I am getting tired of the lazy and stupid baseball the Phillies play at home.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    I first met Jamie as a young boy when I attended Camp Erin. I was grieving the loss of my pet hambster, Lefty, when he first reached out to me and touched my life in the way that only he can. The inevitable happened and we became lovers. It turned out to be the greatest summer a 12 year old boy could ever have. I’ll never forget our forbidden love. So, no matter what happens, no matter how bad he pitches, I will always be there for him. Through thick and thin. GO JAMIE GO!

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Look at that patience at the plate. What discipline.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    Glad the offense is showing up at home once again,

    Really 5 stirkeouts versus this scrub?

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 Eli

    aha Who is this character the dipsy? both of them actually. The one who actually thinks he is smart and the funny one making fun of him.

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    Jeff what about his 7 innings of 2 run ball against the “best team in baseball” out in L.A.? What about his start against the Mutts last week? I guess he gave us no chance in either of those games, either. You can’t just ignore a large number of games to prove your point. But I guess we will just have to agree to disagree at this point because I’m tired of the argument.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Boy this pitcher looks like Cy.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    Make that 6 stirkeouts, FML

    Everyone is complaining about the Pitching but with a team that averages over 5 runs per game this game is still quite winable seeing as it seems Moyer has settled down.

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 John Fire

    Why have we struck out six times already in the third inning to this chump? There are some cracks in the armor, my friends…

     
  • Posts: 0 Miles

    wow really guys….alright I’m outta here. And just so you know my family contributes tons of money to Camp Erin and the fact that you would even include it in a post making me is about the scummiest thing I can think of. I hope you enjoyed trying to prove your point in a mature way though. I’ll be back on this board when I read posts and see that there are actually still some Phillies fans left on here who want to analyze the game and not just bash the players and fellow posters.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Our home record is beyond BAD. its humiliating. Forget about bashing Moyer, if he can go 2 more innings without giving up more runs, thats a workable start. The HORRIBLE thing is, the Phils offense is stagnent right now. Be worried about the home record, not Moyer. If the Phils dont start winning at home, we will fall out of first quick and not get it back. Moyer isnt the only problem and is far from our biggest problem. I am more concerned about the Phils not winning at home. Anymore, If I see that the Phils are playing at home, I mark it as a loss. Not who is pitching, but where they are playing.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    You think the Dodgers are a great team. What are you smoking. Its like what Kruk said last night. Dodgers are just a product of a horrible NL this year. Please….Besides Manny who scares you on the Dodgers. Loney would be batting 8th on the Yankees.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Jeff, really Moyer is the ONLY player that is “KILLING” the phils? I didnt know he pitched every game this season. Have you not looked at the LACK of run production when Moyer pitches? Moyer is NOT, let me repeat NOT supposed to be our ace. Excluding 2 HORRIBLE starts, he has been workable. Workable meaning giving up 4 runs in 6 innings. We want better, but its workable. The real problem is the Phils dont score when hes on the mound. When he is on the mound, the Phils have only scored more than 3 runs 3 times out of ALL of his starts this season. Is he AWESOME? NO. He has been workable.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    6 stirkeouts
    2 bad bunts
    1 walk
    3 singles

    That is a horrendous offensive output and no one posts about this, just Jamie’s rough night. Not to mention he has settled in.

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Time to start putting up some runs on this career minor leaguer.

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    the checker demon: I like it: Moyer the Knuckleballer…People say its a gimmick pitch but its done Wakefield well esp. as a Yankee killer….you can pitch forever and when your retired you can still lift a cup coffee with your throwing arm…anyone know how old the Nikero bros. were when they hung up their cleats…

     
  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Is anybody going to let the Phillies batter know that this guy can’t throw a strike?

     
  • Posts: 0 The Big Dipper

    That longball from Werth would have been better if Ibanez hadn’t just cleared the bags from that DP.

    The Big Dipper

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    jayson (jay killer) werth

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Not for nothing, but I am perfectly aware that I am opinionated, alienating of others, and asocial. That said, is it really necessary that someone post under my name? Because when you have stuff like that going on, you have, well…you have anarchy. I’m a big boy…you guys can give it to me straight. TIM!

    The Dipsy

    “Always striving to make the Phillies a better team”

     
  • Posts: 0 cm

    that could have been a 3 run HR!!

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    In case you were looking for a translation of what my last post said, it went kinda like this,

    Wahhh, someone called me a douche and told me that my opinons are not worth a grain of salt, WAHHHHH!

    The Dipsy

    “Always striving to make people like me”

     
  • Posts: 0 Joshua

    Raul smoked that ball tho

     
  • Posts: 0 j reed

    7 k’s….they’re killing me

     
 
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