Heyman: Tough To Gauge Peavy’s Interest In Phils
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Mon, June 01, 2009 03:39 PM | Comments: 79
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From now until July, the Phillies and the term “available starting pitching” will fit and become numbingly nauseating. With Brett Myers on the shelf, there are multiple names out in the open. I’ll give my opinion soon. For now, here’s a nugget from Jon Heyman – who spoke to Ruben Amaro Jr. – about Jake Peavy.
From Heyman:
Peavy is the logical fit for the Phillies. However, he has full no-trade veto power. To this point, there’s no indication Peavy has any interest in coming to the East Coast, especially to a team in a clear hitters’ park. (While agent Barry Axelrod publicly said the Phils would fulfill Peavy’s goal to play in the National League for a winner, he wasn’t as certain about the geographic concern). Plus, in terms of fan passion, Philly is about as opposite from San Diego as he’d find. Amaro declined to discuss Peavy (or anyone currently playing elsewhere), though it’s no surprise someone familiar with their thinking said Peavy is at or near the top of their list.
Heyman then lists some other options, which include Roy Oswalt, Cliff Lee, Erik Bedard, Chris Young and Aaron Harang. I have to say, though, that it doesn’t look as if Peavy will come to Philadelphia. He likes the West Coast, enjoys not being pressured and wants to remain close to his family (who seems not likely to move from California).
Posts: 0 CT
Peavy = p*ssy. I don’t think he could handle the pressure here.
Oswalt seems ok, but his numbers are on the decline; maybe the change of scenery to a great defensive and offensive team like the Phils could help him out though.
No thanks to Cliff Lee (last year seems like an anomaly), or Bedard (yeah his numbers are good but he doesn’t seem like a team guy from what everyone is saying, plus has injury history). Doubtful about Harang, as the Reds are still in contention right now… maybe in a few weeks that might be different.
I wish Toronto wasn’t playing half as well as they are right now, because that kind of kills our chances at getting Halladay.
Posted: 04:05 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Geoff
Theyve gotta be looking at someone totally unmentioned. because the options that are available currently arent so hot. Yeah theyd improve our rotation but either not enough or they carry too many caveats.
Posted: 04:10 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 GWFightinsFan
Well we certainly do need someone to fill out the rotation, with another good pitcher, we certainly could get back to the series, and once we’re there who knows. My question is, would it be considered tampering if the Phillies directly contacted Peavy or his agent to inquire as to his interest (or lack therof) of playing in Philly? I think given his high salary, and SD’s desire to dump his salary, he could be had for relatively cheap. (think Marson, Carrasco, Savery)
Posted: 04:14 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Albert
Peavy, dude, stop being a bitch.
Posted: 04:16 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R. (formerly just Ed)
I just want it to be over. It’s so sad but I do. I actually feel bad for San Diego, they want to move the guy so bad and basically had their balls cut off years ago when they gave him the no trade clause. He can just sit back in chill in SD until they can work out a trade to someone he approves up. Let him go to Chicago, won’t matter. They are still chokesters. Talk about the Met’s being choke artists, they have nothing on the Cubbies.
The guy wants to:
Play in the NL
On the west coast
Only for a winner…
well that narrows you down to…the Dodgers…that’s about it. I can’t see San Diego trading him to their own rival but I guess money talks.
Posted: 04:22 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 SOFTFOAMEARPLUGS.COM
Randy Wolf left and had opportunities to come back but chose to go/stay in California. Do the same derogatory terms apply to him?
Maybe we need to bust the union and go back to the days where players didn’t have any rights!
Posted: 04:23 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Who’s John Hymen and why do we care what he thinks? After all, he refers to Junior Mayberry as “the multitalented outfielder”. I take this to mean that he can do other things other than playing baseball, like writing, paying the flute, or water skiing. As for pitching, alas, I have no suggestions. I still think we’re gonna end up with Jon Garland somehow. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want him. It just seems like a player the Phils would get.
The Dipsy
Posted: 04:27 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Marc H
All we need is 10 respectable starts from an in-house candidate and then pick and choose the rental you want at the trade deadline (Bedard??) and hope that he gets hot without giving up the store (Marson, Young, Drabek, etc). Think Bob Walk wasn’t intrumental to the Phillies wining in 1980??
Posted: 04:27 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 mikemike
marc 6-0 I believe.
Posted: 04:28 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Marc H
mikemike–Exactly. Hold the fort. The best dives meake the smallest splashes
Posted: 04:31 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Pat Gallen, Phils Examiner
If Peavy doesnt want to come here, we shouldnt want him. The guy is clearly much more interested in losing but being near the surf than playing for a contender and getting a trophy. Sounds like a guy who isnt quite built for the pressure of a city like Philly.
Jon Garland or Brad Penny definitely fit the mold that the Phillies follow. Sort of like the Kyle Lohse/Joe Blanton moves. I see them making a smaller scale deal in the end because Peavy seems like a bitch, as does Bedard.
Posted: 04:43 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 PGD
Marc H, when you mention not giving up the store (Marson, Young, Drabek) who is Young
Posted: 04:50 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 ChaseUtleyMVP
I want a starter sure, but I don’t wanna let go Drabek (gonna be a star) and Bastardo has gotten comparisons to Johan (we’ll see tomorrow)
I could let Carassco go (headcase) and KK. Donald probably…and maybe Mayberry or Brown
but Drabek must stay for me..he’s gonna be a star
Posted: 04:54 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R. (formerly just Ed)
I’d take Garland over Penny. Don’t be fooled by Penny’s record. His ERA is near 6.
Posted: 04:56 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R. (formerly just Ed)
@ softfoamearplugs.com…now the same terms do not apply because Wolf left a free agent. He did his team and chose to leave. Peavy has handcuffed his team and made it impossible for them to move him. He is being a selfish prick. Which is exactly why I don’t want to see him here.
Posted: 04:57 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Keith
perhaps the Phillies hitters will just have to smack Peavy around
Posted: 05:00 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 PGD
yea peavy knows he is not an elite pitcher and would have average stats if he made his home in Chicago or Philly, he is too afraid of the cold and afraid of his stats too much, I think he cares more about his comfortability in a place with great weather than his actual baseball career
Posted: 05:01 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
I’d kick the tires on Cliff Lee. He not a free agent until after 2010 (I think) and although last year was a career year, he’s still pretty good.
Posted: 05:03 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
I mean, if a pitcher comes to CB Park to play for the Phils, like Peavy, he’s gonna win 17-21 games. His ERA is just gonna be higher AND he’s gonna play for a winner. I don’t see why pitchers give a crap. Cuz there ERAs might go up? Seriously. In the end, he can go straight to hell. I hope the Padres bench him. Make him the closer. I would love to see them have him play the field and hit one day. Just to punish him. He’ll waive his no trade real quick after he runs into a wall and takes a pitch in the back. THAT…I would pay money to see. Better yet, make him catch. Unreal.
The Dipsy
Posted: 05:06 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R. (formerly just Ed)
I wish the Padres would do that but you know the Union would be on them in a heart beat and that would be that.
Posted: 05:09 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 NJ
Well put Dipsy, Peavy’s talking his way out of several good situations. He seems fixated on the Braves and their pitching legacy, Cubs and the love he’ll get there, or LA for the allure…
Posted: 05:09 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 therookie300
The Phils should just sit tight and work with the in house options right now. Hopefully it goes smoothly or they might have to jump on an early move. I think towards the end of July the Blue Jays should be out of the race in the east, even the wild card, and then we should make an attractive offer for Halladay. Out of all those pitchers, he is the only one worth trading blue chippers for. Halladay would be a beast on this team.
Posted: 05:10 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 therookie300
@Griffin
I agree. I think Lee would be worth a look at. He is having a fine year. He is getting squat for run support. He’s done well against some pretty good teams also. We could make some room for him.
Posted: 05:14 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
NJ, why would the Cubs trade for Peavy anyway? They’re set with Zambrano, Harden, and Lilly. Thats a nice 3. Peavy needs a serious blanket party.
The Dipsy
p.s. Am I supposed to stay up till 1 am for the next week watching these games? Good god.
Posted: 05:17 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Little Guy
Peavy sounds like Geoff, all he does is bitch and make excuses.
Lets see, make the same amount of money and pitch for a contender and a previous WS champ, or, pitch on a team where you probably don’t even know everyone on the teams name, and finish 30 games out of first…
Hmm..
Posted: 05:19 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Here are my odds for pitcher Phils will acquire by the deadline (indulge me…I like to do it):
Roy Oswalt 15-1. Actually, the Astros might start to think that’s he’s not worth what they’re paying him and may actually add a little dumping nuance to a deal for him. He’s getting paid like the pitcher he was 3 years ago and he’s not that guy anymore.
Jon Garland 12-1. Very Blantonish. Eats innings while keeping you in games. The Phillies like that type of guy. And he’s got a pedigree.
Erik Bedard 8-1. He’s a rental and the Phils might go for him if the price is low enough. Maybe a Mayberry/D’Arnaud gets him in a month?
Aaron Cook 7-1. So taylor made for the Phils. A just above middling 30ish type that can keep his ERA around 4.00 at the Bank. And whats so wrong with that?
Jason Marquis 7-1. See Aaron Cook. Can keep his ERA around 4.30 at the Bank. Uhhhhh.
Posted: 05:26 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Keith
ugh nooo Jon Garland, Aaron Cook, or Jason Marquis. not really interested in Erik Bedard either.
Posted: 05:30 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Of course you’re not. Who is?
The Dipsy
Posted: 05:33 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 baseballfan
Someone please explain why he is a Jerk for using his no-trade clause. I believe the reason he got one is so he did not get traded to teams he did’nt want too. Why would he waive it to go to a team he doesnt want too?
Maybe his kids lives,growing up with their friends is more important then baseball.
Also, He signed a contract with the Padres. not the phillies or whoever. If I get hired at P.W. Cooper, I dont want to end up getting traded to Chicago to work for some other company.
Posted: 05:33 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Griffin
I will not dispute that Peavy is acting like a puss, but the Padres did give him a no trade clause-no one put a gun to their head to do that. So they only have themselves to blame for the situation.
Posted: 05:34 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Keith
Padres are screwed, oh well.
Posted: 05:35 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 pb
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Posted: 05:40 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Pat Gallen, Phils Examiner
Baseball fan, the number one reason you play sports is to win. Peavy is making that, like, 4th on his list. He grabbed a big time deal and now is acting like a baby. He’s in a position where he may have to be away from his family for some time. He’s an entertainer – Its apparent winning doesnt mean anything to him.
I agree family is important, but whatever happened to the ultimate chase for a title. Peavy doesnt have that desire, so would he be a good fit with the team anyway?
Posted: 05:41 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
I think the reason peple are upset that the we know the REAL reason players get no trade clauses is A) so they can get kickers so when it does come time to get traded AND B) it does give the player a measure of control…not result in a hostage situation. Not a player who holds out to go to only one team (Cubs) that will trade for him thus killing his value and sticking it to the Pads. Plus….he wants to pitch is a “stress free, laid back environment” and not in the “crucible” of a stadium filled with more than 15,000 who make more sound than the occasional yawn.
The Dipsy
Posted: 05:42 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase
On an unrelated note, does anyone know how Anthony Hewitt is doing in 09?
Posted: 05:43 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Chase
On an unrelated note, does anyone know how Anthony Hewitt is doing in 09? I keep googling him, but i can’t seem to find his stats.
Posted: 05:43 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 NJ
Dipsy- The Cubs were going after Peavy hard in the off-season.
Posted: 05:46 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Doesn’t that tell you something? RE: Peavy. Just remember, its not ok to pray that someone blows out their arm but that doesn’t mean you have to pray against it.
The Dispy
Posted: 05:46 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
I know. Its strange. Why don’t they commit that money to offense? Their rotation is fine.
The Dipsy
Posted: 05:48 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 NJ
I’m with you on that one, the Cubs are a strange organisation but they have some young guys capable of big things.
Posted: 05:50 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 baseballfan
The number one reason people play sports in to play sports. Because they are fun. If it was winning they could go and win in anything. Peavy likes baseball and wants to pitch without being stressed out. Its not like this is his last year of the contract. He can always get traded to a team next year that is winning and is geographically where he wants it to be. Because he is waving his no-trade clause does not mean anything. They Padres gave it to him.hah
Posted: 05:55 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 baseballfan
because he is not waiving*
Posted: 05:57 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R. (formerly just Ed)
As much as I do not like Peavy and have bashed him, the reason he got a no trade was because he agreed to take less money from the Padres so they could sign other players and build around him. The no trade was their thank you to him. Now the Padres changed their mind and he is basically telling them to fist off. Can’t say I blame him but if you knew your employer didn’t want you anymore and they could send you somewhere else making the same amount of money, with a chance to be even better wouldn’t you do it? And by better I mean, be on a better team, your individual numbers might not be as good.
Posted: 05:57 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 baseballfan
Ed,that job thing makes sense if it was in the same city. We are talking about across the country here. I bet 90% of you would not pick up and move across the country to make the same oney your already making.
Posted: 05:59 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 NJ
You’ve got to love how the Padres/Peavy are the love-child of a divorce right now…
Posted: 05:59 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 JMart
None of these guys are worth it. Peavy stinks away from PetCo, Oswalt is on the decline, Bedard’s a headcase, Holladay costs too much, Harang is up and down, Young:see Peavy and harang. Marquis might actually be the only one worth seriously lookin at, hes been dominant away from Coors, but he is a little up and down. Its time to let the young guns loose.
Posted: 06:04 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R. (formerly just Ed)
I would if I was making 13 million.
Posted: 06:05 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
JMart….what do you think of Johan Santana?
The Dipsy
Posted: 06:08 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 JMart
Lets see, there’s a guy who’s a proven commodity. Quality starts every time he goes out there. Can you say the same for any of the guys everybody wants? Yeah Peavy, but he does not want to play on the East Coast. No matter what we could give the Padres he will not be a Phillie, get over it.
Posted: 06:16 PM on June 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Keith
but we don’t want to
Posted: 06:17 PM on June 1, 2009