Prado Wears Out Phillies

Posted by Amanda Orr, Tue, June 30, 2009 11:20 PM | Comments: 31
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Gregor Blanco and Martin Prado weren’t supposed to be in the Braves’ lineup. Due to injuries, they were given an opportunity to start and they did not disappoint. They went a combined 7-for-10 with four runs batted in, a walk, and three runs scored.

Prado and Blanco’s performances were the opposite of Jimmy Rollins’, who received his first start in four days. As usual, Rollins provided Gold Glove defense. But Braves fans chanted Rollins’ average, and each time he stepped to the plate, the number chanted became lower and lower. Rollins finished the night 0-for-5.

The Phillies opened the scoring in the third inning on Ryan Howard’s ground-rule double. The bounce over the fence proved to cost the Phillies. If it stayed in the yard, Chase Utley would have scored easily. Instead, he was forced to stop at third.

Utley homered to give the Phillies a 2-1 lead, but Prado responded with a solo home run of his own to tie it up. The Braves took a 3-2 lead on a ground-out in the fifth inning.

Joe Blanton pitched five innings, allowing three earned runs on eight hits and three walks. He struck out three. Derek Lowe was a little better. In seven innings, he gave up two runs on seven hits and three walks.

With two outs in the eighth inning, John Mayberry Jr. was called to pinch hit and answered with a game tying home run. If that wasn’t exciting enough, Pedro Feliz followed with a long home run, giving the Phillies a 4-3 lead.

In the bottom of the eighth with two outs and a runner on first, Ryan Madson attempted a pick-off throw, only for it to hit the runner and scoot toward the Braves dugout. The runner advanced, then scored on Prado’s double down the line, making it a 4-4 game. If it didn’t hit the runner, Howard would have held the runner on and the Phillies could have seen their way out of the inning.

In the bottom of the tenth, Prado haunted the Phillies once again. With two on and one out, Prado hit a line drive over the head of Mayberry. Game over. Braves win, 5-4.

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  • Posts: 0 Philsphan

    Well on the plus side, that break did J-roll wonders. Looked real solid out there today…

  • Posts: 0 Stuart

    Well madson is just as bad as ever. why is he so shaky this year?

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    This “year,” Stuart… seriously? He’s been shaky lately, but he was lights out for MOST of the season.

    J-out: Wow. Boo, I guess.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Had J-Roll so much as even walked in either the 3rd or 5th inning this would have been a win. that is a fact. If he had walked in the 3rd or fifth, he would would have scored seeing what happened in those innings. I am completely tired of hearing abouit J-Out and his lack of EVERYTHING from the plate.

  • Posts: 0 Greg V.

    I am absolutely fed up too. DO NOT BAT HIM LEAD OFF EVER AGAIN! He was always mediocre at best in that spot except for his MVP year. Now he can’t hit! Christ, I thought Joe Blanton had better at bats tonight than him! It’s pathetic! i’m sick of watching it! Go ahead, call me a frontrunner! He doesn’t fit in the lead off spot anymore!

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    The really funny thing is, the ONLY reason J-Rolls average is so good is from the 6 games he was hitting 6th spot. When he was hitting 6th spot, he batting average was HIGH.200, low .300′s. Take those games out, and look at leadoff only, his average is well below .200. He needs to the SHUT THE @#$^ UP AND PLAY!

  • Posts: 0 Jackson

    Word to Rollins get back on the juice. Those of you that think he wasnt are stupid.

  • Posts: 0 BS

    I gotta give the Braves fans some props. Chanting J-Rolls AVG is a pretty inventive taunt. I wanna hear something like that with Pujols or Joe Mauer, lol.

  • Posts: 0 mg52

    Hitters with stats like Rollins’s right now usually do not remain in the majors for much longer. I am not saying that he should be demoted, but we may well be seeing a change in his role on the team. He – at least right now – is not the catalyst. He is not the table setter. He is, for the most part, a defensive wizard. His hitting has become secondary because it has gone bad. The 2007 MVP is at a stage in his career when things have changed. He and the team have to reason with that thought.

  • Posts: 0 Stuart

    I am just sick of madson blowing games for us lately. When he was the closer he blew almost every save opportunity he had and now that hes back to pitching the 8th he is still pitching poorly.
    Now for J-roll, this is just some bad managing. How can you not notice that he does better in the 6 spot. There are no two ways about it. I thought charlie was better than this.

  • Posts: 0 beta sigma shag

    there is an awful lot of JRoll hating going on here for a game that could have been a win if Madson did not walk the guy in the eighth

  • Posts: 0 boxage


  • Posts: 0 Myers' Liars

    A lot of you guys are forgetting the incredible defensive efforts Jimmy Rollins puts in each game.
    He had one today, that, if Bruntlett were in, would have easily been a base knock up the middle, extending the inning, and possibly scoring a run.
    Yes he is hitting below average, even poor, but he is still our leader who has been here year in, and year out. He has stood by our team before we were even close to WFC. The man deserves more respect than a lot of you fans are giving him now, and are turning a blind side to the other (defensive) half of the game of baseball, that Jimmy dominates.

  • Posts: 0 Joe

    Too much money.Too little results PERIOD!

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Myers Liars, are you just all of a sudden posting on here without seeing what most “haters” have said. Most of the “haters” or as J-Roll loves to bash philly phans as being “front runners” describe him as a “double edge sword” Its hard to take him out because he defense is so awesome, but annoying and disgusting because if offense SUCKS. like it or not beta, what would the score have been going into the bottom of the 8th had J-Roll so much as walked in either the 3rd or 5th inning? So I suggest you really read the remainder of the posts on most other boards because you act like people “are turning a blind side”. Not to mention another point that myers liars is completely ignoring, is MOST fans, or as you are implying us being poor fans, MOST of us dont want him out, we want him in the 6th spot. or did you skip over this post “Now for J-roll, this is just some bad managing. How can you not notice that he does better in the 6 spot. There are no two ways about it. I thought charlie was better than this.” Look at the numbers. in the few games he was hitting #6, he had a little over .300 average. You know what that means? #1, he is far better NOW as a #6 hitter, and #2, his average as a lead off is BELOW .200. MOST fans dont want him gone, we want him hitting #6 which is where he actually hits the ball, or walks, and scores runs. Scoring runs wins games, not going 0-5.

  • Posts: 0 Sean P.

    How come everyone see that J Roll should be hitting 6th and not Charlie? Interesting stat noted earlier that he would on be batting .195 if he was never plugged in that 5th and 6th holes for a few days.

    Another thing to note – i think J Roll could get more bang for his buck farther down in the lineup b/c he flys out way more than he grounds out.

    Also, look at his splits for his pitch count – he’s actually batting .286ish when the count is 0-0, 0-1, 1-0!! After that it is all down hill. With every other count’s average between .190-.220 .

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    As much as this hurts to say, because I like Charlie, I think it is becoming painfully obvious, Charlie is NOT the manger we thought he was without Jimy Williams as bench coach.

  • Posts: 0 beta sigma shag

    I am sorry but you can not say if JRoll walks at some point this or that would have happened, once a runner gets on base it is a different ball game. Would I like to see Jimmy get on base sure, how many runs could have the phillies scored if Ruiz flew out with bases loaded with one out. The point is that they had the lead going into the 8th and that should be enough, two outs and two strikes on a guy at the plate is not time to try and keep the runner close to first, concentrate on the batter.
    Also I can not help to thinkg that Ruiz behind the plate in the 8th would have made a difference also.
    Yes they did lose a heartbreaker, but they played better then they did in the interleague games, I mean Vic could not buy a hit up the middle last night and going in to this series we wanted 2 out of three and we still have a chance to do that wiht Cole tonight and JA tomorrow so let us not get too down on the guys, the Mets lost also, even though the Marlins won so cheer up and let’s get them tonight

  • Posts: 0 Steve-o

    Rollins doesn’t need to hit leadoff or 6th, hit him 8th. That’s where you put your defensive stars who can’t hit.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    As of last night I OFFICIALLY and not mad at Jimmy Rollins anymore. I actually just feel bad for him. That was sad. He looked like he was going to cry up there.

  • Posts: 0 bull

    Brian of CO, I agree and thought that last year even when the won it all. Charlie can not manage a game. Rollins should be in the 6th spot and Vic should be leading off. Also, did not watch the game but saw the stats any reason Charlie pulled Blanton. He was only at about 93 pitches and wasnt he suppose to be the innings eater guy, it didnt seem like he was in trouble except for the one inning. This is what is killing the bullpen not letting some of our starters go that extra inning.

  • Posts: 0 Papa Thompson

    The whole idea that all would be fine if we just batted J-Roll sixth is pretty dumb. Sure, he went on a terror when he was dropped in the order a month ago, but he might have hit just as well during those games if he’d led off. And you’re dealing with a minuscule number set when you try to use stats to back up the argument he should be hitting sixth. He has exactly 8 ABs in the 6-hole this year. That’s 2 percent of his total ABs in 2009. In fact, for his career, Jimmy’s hitting 16 points higher in the lead-off spot than he is in all other spots in the lineup — .277 as a lead-off hitter vs. .261 not leading off. And that’s a bigger number set since nearly 24 percent of his career ABs have come from spots other than lead-off.

    I’m not saying Jimmy should be leading off. But I also don’t think all of his troubles magically would melt away if you put him in the 6-hole. And I agree with Steve-o that if you’re going to bat him based on his performance, you’d be better off batting him 8th than you would be sticking him in the middle of the lineup.

    But the whole thing isn’t really worth talking about to begin with because Charlie has made up his mind that Jimmy will hit lead-off, so we’re going to be stuck with him there, at least up through the All-Star break. I can’t see Charlie’s patience extending much farther than that if Jimmy can’t turn a corner in the next couple of weeks.

  • Posts: 0 Chris Iafolla

    It’s no secret that Rollins is lost at the plate. He continues to up to the dish without a plan of attack. That being said, I have no issue with him being in the lineup as there are no better options on the roster. Do you really want to see Bruntlett playing everyday? My problem is with Charlie Manuel’s insistence that he needs to hit at the top of the lineup. Why not bury him in the 7-hole where his failure to get on base would not be quite as detrimental to the team? Manuel has talked about the need to give Rollins a mental break as the reason for sitting him for the last few games but then inserts him right back into the leadoff spot when he returns. I do understand the rationale that the Phillies do not have a prototypical leadoff hitter on the team–but at this point–Cole Hamels would be a better leadoff hitter than Rollins.

    One small correction on the original post (very small). While Blanco was in the lineup because of an injury to Nate McLouth, Prado was not inserted due to injury. Kelly Johnson has been struggling almost as bad as Rollins lately and has been given a seat on the bench. So Prado is getting a chance to win the everyday job. The Braves were missing Yunel Escobar because of injury. Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that Prado killed the Phillies.

  • Posts: 0 bull

    i am not sure we think all will be fine with him batting 6th or 7th but we obviously can see he is hurting the team by leading off. We are already starting the game with an out on the board with him leading off. He is 0 for his last 24 and L.A. gave another stat that he has not walked in over a month and has gotten on base once on this road trip and that was by an error.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck P

    It’s not like he’s not seeing the ball… he’s just not putting good swings on the ball and balls that have dropped for him in the past are being hit right at fielders. I think that this is interesting… take a look at his strikeout totals through 74 games for each of the past four seasons:

    ’09: 34, 304 AB
    ’08: 32, 301 AB
    ’07: 43, 322 AB (MVP)
    ’06: 31, 309 AB

    He’s seeing the ball but he’s hesitating and he’s not getting his hips behind it. I think that this is a mental funk more than anything else. With each game that passes, Jimmy feels more pressure to get out of it. Unfortunately, his batting average isn’t going to jump 50 points overnight. Big Papi has been able to turn his season around because he’s not only seeing the pitches but he’s also going with them. He’s not trying to hit every pitch out of the ballpark anymore. If he gets a pitch high and away, he’s dropping it into the gap in left field. If he gets a mistake pitch, he’s unloading on it. Jimmy’s still trying to do too much. He’s not getting on top of the ball and he’s taking weak swings. I think that it’s time to give my alternative lineup a shot?

    Interesting stat… the leadoff batters for the phillies are hitting .237, collectively (Jimmy, Vic, Werth, etc… whoever is slotted 1). The 9 hole (pitchers and pinch hitters) is hitting .264.

  • Posts: 0 Miles

    While Jimmy’s struggles are obvious, we all have to come to the realization that we are not losing games solely because Jimmy can’t hit. As shag or someone mentioned earlier, this game is a W if Madson doesn’t issue a 2 out walk, uncork a throwing error, and then give up a double down the line on a belt high fastball with a 1-2 count. JB also was throwing hangers for the most of the night. Ruiz grounded into the big DP. Larry Jones made a great play that could have easily cost us 2 runs.

    Bad Jimmy doesn’t equal a loss. It was everything. Our staff gave up 5 runs to a Braves team that managed all of one run over the weekend against the Sox. If Martin freaking Prado has 4 RBIs I am putting this game on the pitching.

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    I think that ESPN should do a story that runs every half-hour on Sportscenter basically BASHING Jimmy Rollins, and showing him miserably striking out/flying out/grounding out. See if that gets under his skin and gives him a boost or something… hope that some negative national press can get him back to normal.

    OR.. as Georgie said somewhere else, maybe he’s depressed or has some type of anxiety… you know, that’s the new *it* ..players going to the DL for that!! Should I just feel sorry for the guy? I don’t know. But I still believe that a little booing might help.

  • Posts: 0 mikeB

    I agree with Mile’s post in that the pitching cost us this last game. Prado and Blanco had 7 hits between them and Prado had the 4 RBIs. Blanco is hitting .219, had 3 of those hits and also a walk. Francoeur also had a couple of hits and an RBI hitting at .251. Prado is hitting pretty well at .299 but come on, he is not exactly Babe Ruth. Had a home run and triple last night. Just a total lack of concentration and poor pitch selection by mainly Blanton and Madsen.

  • Posts: 0 LH

    Maybe this will take the jinx off J-Roll…

    To the tune of: Oh Where Oh Where Can My Baby Be?

    He swaggered and talked in spring training like a czar
    But he hadn’t driven the ball very far
    There in opening week he was doing misreads
    He’d swing and stalled, his technique was dead
    I couldn’t watch, but I observed for some insight
    I’ll never forget April, May, and June nights
    The downstream BA, running out of gas
    The painful dream who seems to be outclassed

    Oh, where oh where can my Jimmy be?
    His bat was taken away from me
    He’s gone to hiatus, and he’s got to get good
    So I can see my real Jimmy when I go to the park.

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    mikeB.- i think Ruiz callled the game. In the case of Blanton, the braves did what we don’t do, that is make adjustments at the plate. Blanton was throwing first pitch fastballs for strikes and they came out swinging first pitch in what the 2nd or 3rd inning. Ruiz should have realized this and called for some off speed stuff…Not that Blanton couldn’t have done this, but I feel as though the responsiblity lies wih the catcher to call the game unless the pitcher is more the cerebral/crafty type. Ruiz also had Park throwing a first pitch two seamer to Francouer, a notorious low ball hitter…thankfully Frenchy didn’t come up first swinging like he usually does. Also Ruiz called for a come-back fastball for a guy who obviously having trouble with the big league off speed stuff. Park’s pitch broke a little early, but nonetheless had no business throwing it…and that was Ruiz’s responsibility.

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