Phillies Nation

do you know how many times ken reports on what the phillies are going to do. yes they need a bat, i agree but pitcing is more important. we need a number 2 starter or we wont win this year.

How about this trade? Jason Marquis (8-4, 3.98) and Ryan Spilborghs (.259, 5HRS, 26RBI) for Carlos Carrasco, Lou Marson and Jason Donald/John Mayberry Jr./Kyle Kendrick?

Steve Phillips pointed no matter how well Antonio Bastardo pitches, when gets around 150+ IP, you will start seeing effects on Bastardo who will then struggle because he’s never pitched this many innings before. Marquis has been solid this year and leads the NL in wins. With Marquis you get a pitcher who can pitch 150+ Innings and be solid. Bastardo then can go into the rotation and eat some innings from the bullpen like Chan Ho Park is doing right now (3IP In LA). Spilborghs can be a solid bench player for us and the field dimensions are smaller than of Coors Field, so some more homers might be hit by Spilborghs.

I dont know what Jason Marquis is really that much better than what we have now. I think that if theyre going to end up with a guy like that in the rotation then just wait until the deadline when youve come close to maximizing starting innings from Bastardo and can then use Bastardo out of the pen in the playoffs a la Happ last year.

Im all for getting Spilborghs though. That would be a solid move to bolster the bench. The Rockies dont need a catcher (Chris Ianetta is good), so Kendrick & Mayberry or maybe even less than that could work…

Through June 8, pitching for the last-place Rockies,Marquis is leading the NL in wins (8) and ground outs induced (133), tied for the lead in double plays induced (11), 3rd in ground ball/fly ball ratio (2.03; of all NL pitchers with 60 or more innings pitched), and 4th in innings pitched (81.1) and complete games (1). He had a career-low 14.47 pitches per inning, and is holding opposing batters to a career-low .318 OBP and .373 slugging percentage.

All of this while pitching in Coors Field, a homer-friendly park.

Marquis is also a good hitter hitting around .215 in his career with 26 doubles, 2 triples, 5 homers, 53 runs scored, 43RBI’s, and a slugging PCT% of like .290

i’m always wary about any player from Colorado. They tend to leave that thin mile high air and never have any success elsewhere.

Stay away from Spillborghs

Yeah Don M, i completely agree, i don’t get how people can say someone is defintetly going to falter is awfully stupid.

He throws majority fastballs, and when he starts working on his off-speed stuff. If he keeps pitching like this and shutting down his opponents, i don’t want them to trade for some bum like Marquis, Duke, and of those 3rd or 4th tier guys, when you have a home grown talent that can do EXACTLY what they would do in the rotation.

Now if they go and get a Peavy, Oswalt, Bedard or Lee….i’m all for it. But IMO, it wouldn’t make sense to get a lesser tier guy, when your still going to give up some prospects, might as well get somebody you can slot behind Hamels and raise another trophy.

List of Pitchers linked to Phillies this year:

Clay Buchholz
Brad Penny
Roy Halladay
Jeremy Guthrie
Erik Bedard
Jarrod Washburn
Matt Cain
Jake Peavy
Javier Vasquez
Roy Oswalt
Cliff Lee
Jason Marquis
Vicente Padilla
Tom Glavine
Aaron Harang
Bronson Arroyo
Brandon Webb
Noah Lowry
Chris Young

If I forgot someone, feel free to add

* Name 5 pitchers you think that have ALL OR MOST of these qualities:

– the Phillies have the most realistic chance of getting
– will produce at CBP
– won’t feel pressure in Philly
– you think are good
– starting near top of rotation

To be honest I think all of these pitchers will feel pressure in Philadelphia because none of them have ever pitched for the Phillies except for Vicente Padilla who stunk it up.

They need to decide is Michael Taylor is a better prospect than John Mayberry Jr.

if he is.. then we can afford to keep Mayberry on the bench up here in the majors.. if he isn’t (and they think he might be an MLB regular-everday player soon) then we need to get a RH-bat somewhere..

Travis, you should rephrase your line as..”linked by RUMORS..to Phillies. ;-)

While it may be fun for those who speculate and daydream, I’ll stay with the facts and the identified source (usually within the team’s organization).

In the meantime, have fun with the “rumors”.

I haven’t read here what it may cost to obtain someone like Spillborghs who is a regular in the Rockies’ lineup. That can be a stumbling block to any possible trade talk.

YEP! JUST REPORTED ON CSN AND HIGH CHEESE by David Murphy

That news floored me.

from Phila. Inquirer:

“Righthander Brad Lidge was placed on the 15-day disabled list with a sprained right knee, retroactive to June 7, the Phillies said today.

To take his spot on the 25-man roster, the Phillies selected the contract of catcher Paul Bako from double-A Reading.”

So. The other shoe has dropped. I guess that means:

9th – Madson
8th – Romero
7th – Condrey, Eyre, Durbin
6th – Park

Hmmmm. I find it odd that the Phils will now carry 6 bullpen guys and while adding a third catcher. Why Bako and not Escalona????? I smell a trade in the works.

The Dipsy
The Dipsy

the key part now is Durbin and Condrey
JC has command issues with righties, so those 2 guys will be called on to get outs in the 8th.

Im fine with Maddog closing. his stuff is great

I’m anxious to read more on Lidge’s injury. Losing your closer is never good news. Obviously, the wheels are turning within the organization in an attempt to find a temporary solution. All eyes on Madson. Is he the answer?

Are you kidding Dipsy?

yes. he struggles with his command against righties.

Dominic Brown, the Phils top position prospect and basically top prospect, is going to be out 3-4 weeks after “slightly” fracturing his fifth finger on his right hand yesterday after being hit with a pitch.

of the 5 righties hes faced this year.
2 have gotten hits, 1 has walked.
an average of .400 an OBP of .500
no strikeouts.

while lefties are hitting .200 with 1 hit 1 walk and 2 K’s

and if that doesnt do it…

in 2009
righties hit .282 with 27 walks.
lefites hit .102 with 11 walks.

again,
struggles with command to righties

Justin, you may very well be right about that. However, it’s odd that the team would call up another lefthanded bat who has not hit higher than .217 the past 3 years as a part time player. I suspect it’s Bako who will come off the bench to spell Ruiz and Coste occasionally. Or as one poster suggested, a possible trade brewing involving Bako?

Ahh..h, the wheels are turning.

Madson should get the shot now. The closer role is his and his to lose in my opinion.

Coste off the bench……..yeah, I don’t know……I smell a trade too.

Maybe they brought up Bako because Coste might be in the deal for Spillborghs. Just a thought.

something is off…
i don’t know but calling up a 3rd catcher, and leaving the pen a guy short now…and calling up another lefthanded bat for the bench?

hmmmm…
something is gonna go soon i think

Another interesting development… off-topic but with far more national implications…

NBC and the NHL has apparently blocked “Joe-Vision” for tonight’s Stanley Cup game. Joe Vision is the remote viewing at Joe Frazier Arena in Detroit where fans gather inside the arena to watch the game. A source says that it is because the event results in a negative impact on NBC’s ratings. Can you imagine if this catches on? It’s really senseless, to me.

Yeah something funny is going on here…calling up Bako doesnt make sense…