The Dip: Brett Myers: The Return of the Native

Posted by The Dipsy, Fri, July 31, 2009 09:30 AM | Comments: 118
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Amongst all the hubbub surrounding the Cliff Lee acquisition, the Phils find themselves sitting on a potential treasure trove of arms to employ for the stretch run to the pennant (it used to be called “pennant”, I’m not sure what its called now). While J.P. Ricciardi cleans out his desk Saturday morning, victim of what l call a “Ruben Sandwich,” Charlie Manuel will be sitting in a locker room somewhere trying to think of a way to fit six, soon to be seven, and not long after that, eight (!) pitchers into his starting rotation. That eighth pitcher will almost assuredly be Brett Myers, showing up late to the party, but there nevertheless.

If things go as The Dipsy predicts (in honor of Ricky Henderson’s induction into the Hall of Fame, I am referring to myself in the third person), Happ will go to the bullpen (a shame), Lopez will be traded for a minimal return and Martinez and Moyer will be your No. 4 and 5 starters, not necessarily in that order. Easy enough, I guess, until Myers is done his rehab stints and shows up at Citizens Bank Park pronouncing himself cured and ready to pitch. And that talented right arm has to go someplace.

BrettIn 2008, Myers was one of the best starters in baseball after he came back from his electroshock therapy in Reading. He went long into games, moved his fastball in the zone, and his curveball bit and didn’t hang. In short, he was great, and the Phils would not have reached the World Series without him. The season prior, Myers was unexpectedly thrust into the role of closer and thrived with 21 saves while averaging more than 10.5 strikeouts per nine innings. The guy has shown he can close.

What happens when Myers returns will hinge on what happens with Martinez. If Martinez can’t hack it, Myers slides into his spot and Martinez goes to the pen. If Martinez is pitching reasonably well, he will serve as the righty starter to balance out the rotation, and Myers will pitch in relief. Then it becomes interesting. I would love to see the “Bridge to Lidge” include Myers flashing his old form and effectively holding things down anywhere from the sixth to eighth innings, with the switch over to J.C. Romero as needed, then right into Ryan Madson. Then Lidge in the 9th.

While all of this this sounds great In theory, it can’t work unless Lidge has it together. As of now he does not. And he has a history a “crisises in confidence.” If September comes with Myers pitching well and Lidge struggling, and we all hope that won’t happen, I would expect Manuel to dispense with the “I’ll stick with my horse” or “I’ll dance with girl that brung me” crap and make the switch to Myers. Playoff baseball is no place to wait for a guy to find his stuff. Myers runs to pressure. And he needs a contract next year. I think he’ll be primed. We want Brett Myers to pitch well. We all want Brad Lidge to pitch well. But most of all, we want the best guy on the mound to close games.

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  • Posts: 0 j reed

    terrence- is that nick johnson of Nats. to the Marlins?…And does this mean Halladay is with the Jays for the rest of this season…no way for the Red Sox to get him until the off season? In other words barring the Jays from making it to the off season, we will not see Halladay pitch against us?

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    terrence – that’s “Jays from making it to the post season…” not off season

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    It will be off season for them! hehe

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Red Sox needed a starting pitcher.. considering Brad Penny is their #3 (5.07 ERA, and a 1.49 WHIP) and Smoltz is struggling as their #4 (7.04 ERA, and a 1.53 WHIP)

    Dice-K (8.23 ERA) and Wakefield are both on the DL

    surprising that they got another bat, unless they plan to use Martinez over Jason Varitek

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Manny – so there is no way Halladay can go elsewhere until the off season?

  • Posts: 0 Terrence

    yeah its the nick johnson of the nationals. and remember there are still waiver wire deals in august. the trades won’t stop. after reading there will be some good bats available in august.

    From Fox Sports:

    With that in mind, here are 10 players likely to clear waivers and be available for a contender in need this August:

    Outfielder Vernon Wells, Toronto
    Third baseman Garrett Atkins, Colorado
    Outfielder Adam Dunn, Washington
    Outfielder Juan Pierre, Los Angeles Dodgers
    Outfielder Jose Guillen, Kansas City
    Outfielder Gary Matthews, Jr., Los Angeles Angels
    RHPs Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo, Cincinnati:
    DH Pat Burrell, Tampa Bay
    Shortstop-turned-backup-first baseman Bobby Crosby, Oakland
    Baltimore first baseman Aubrey Huff, Baltimore

    Hopefully Phils get rid of Bruntlett. He strikes out everytime while pinch hitting like last time. Hey if burrell is available should Phils get him. I think Phils should improve bench with atleast one guy and get some bullpen help. What do you guys think?

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Bruntlett is good as an infielder… he’s just not a good hitter.

    If Rollins or Utley got hurt in a game… I would want Bruntlett there to play defense instead of trying Dobbs or something just because Dobbs hits for a higher average.

    No matter who that 25th man on the roster is.. he won’t get enough at-bats to be consistent and produce at the plate. Dobbs, Stairs etc.. there main job is to be the PINCH-HITTERS … Bruntlett’s job to is be ready for anything, if needed

    and if the difference in us winning another World Series or not, comes down to the 25th man on our playoff roster.. then we’re in trouble anyway, and have bigger problems to worry about!

  • Posts: 0 Terrence

    From twitter/philaphillies

    Aug. 16 game in Atlanta has been moved to 8:05 start time for a Sun. night ESPN national telecast.

    And no Roy Halladay can’t be traded until offseason because first blue jays won’t put him on the waiver wire and if they do everyone will put a claim on him. Also they won’t get much in return.

  • Posts: 0 Terrence

    Well atleast the trade deadline is over and no more talk of Halladay. Get to game tonight. Lee vs Sadowski. I have a feeling Lee will pitch a very good game and phils O will get going against Sadowski who I think will last only about 3 or 4 innings. MLB waiver deadline is August 31st so starting probably Monday players will start getting put on the waiver. If you’re waiting until phils game watch iron pigs host columbus. Pedro makes his triple A against well who else former iron pig carlos carrasco. 7:05pm ET. see everyone else later tonight. well maybe if not fall asleep or go somewhere

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I think any team can “claim” a player on waivers… but if two teams claim him.. the team with the worse record get to try to make a deal with Toronto (in this case) .. if no deal is reached, Halladay would stay on Toronto.

    So while there may be some bats available in August.. if the Marlins, Giants, etc.. have worse records than us, they can still go after these guys.

    The past few years we were only chasing the Wild Card.. this year we’re leading every team but the Dodgers I think… so 14 teams would have a crack at players, just in the NL

  • Posts: 0 Terrence

    according to tsn, the angels made a last minute attempt to acquire the Doc.

    Beimel deal is complete

    Rockies acquire Joe Beimel from Nationals for Ryan Mattheus and Robinson Fabian

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Do M. -i think wakefield would only play if it was Francona’s olny option, but i’m not sure. Was he in either their two WS rotation? I know it difficult with him because he needs his own catcher so that’s another spot that would be used. Might be too much to give up to suit the needs of one guy, plus the knuckle ball is either an “on or off ” pitch… when its on, fun to watch batters tie themselves into knots, but when its off you might as well put it on a tee. Still would be cool to see him play in a WS since he the last of his kind. at least that i know of. As for R.Sox pitching, saw a article on Bleacher Reports (didn’t have time to read it) about some secret arm for the sox, but the bleacher reports aren’t what i’d call reliable or unbiased.

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Terrence and Don M. – thanks for the clearing up the matter…I feel better…Aaron Harang is interesting…I’m not pissed or grinning ear to ear with the Lee/Franciso deal…it was with everyting weighed out quite an excellent deal, but not what I wanted for Christmas.

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    I don’t know who typed those last two comments but it sure wasn’t me . I just got home from work. RA you did an awesome job. I dreamed of Halladay just like everyone else even after we acquired Lee. But the reality is we potentially have made the best deadline trade in Phillies history. The move was intelligent and should be extremely effective. I can’t complain. And Doc stays in Toronto. Perfect!

  • Posts: 0 Dave

    show the rest of baseball that the Phillies don’t need P.E.D’s to win a championship…


  • Posts: 0 kevin

    im not sure where you get your information but he has clearly stated that IF he comes back at the end of August he wont be pitching as a starter. he stated that he will only have his pitch count up to about 40 tops. you need to get your information first before you post a blog like this and mislead everyone here.

  • Posts: 0 kevin

    the guy who wrote this article has absolutely no idea what he is talking about and it appears most of you agree from your comments….i think he is just wishful thinking but has no knowledge of the game of baseball……im wondering if hes actually watched a complete game.

  • Posts: 0 Boogie Down

    Wow Kevin. I don’t think there is any way of telling whether Brett would be be ready. Actually, what do expect Brett to say? “I’m gonna be ready is August to take my starter’s spot back”? That would be disrespectfull to his teammates that are in the rotation now. The guy’s job is to write an article. I think Brett could be ready to start come mid September. Why don’t YOU write an article, genius.

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