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> <channel><title>Comments on: Gameday: Reds (40-41) At Phillies (43-37)</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Harry</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113782</link> <dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:42:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113782</guid> <description>mets88 you are such a craphead. you show when we loose but not when we win. go back to your own sites.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mets88 you are such a craphead. you show when we loose but not when we win. go back to your own sites.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mets88</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113778</link> <dc:creator>mets88</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:54:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113778</guid> <description>good job lidge thats y i love you. one good year than your a bust</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good job lidge thats y i love you. one good year than your a bust</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mikemike</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113777</link> <dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:27:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113777</guid> <description>werth is a good trade chip</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>werth is a good trade chip</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: j reed</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113776</link> <dc:creator>j reed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113776</guid> <description>Morris- in fairness to Werth, he hit that granny off a position guy, SS, who Baker put in the game to save his late-inning quality  for a stituation like tonight..why waste them when its 16-1 or whatever the score was at the time.  Tonight, Harang&#039;s a different story.  But nonetheless. 1-10 with RISP is a tough pill to swallow.  I don&#039;t know why the management doesn&#039;t coach a little more small ball in these stituations because the players don&#039;t seem capable of it at times, or at least they are not all on the same page to pull it off.     Man, they&#039;ve got oodles of god-given talent, and  good dispositons...they just need a serious shot of baseball IQ and the rest is history.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morris- in fairness to Werth, he hit that granny off a position guy, SS, who Baker put in the game to save his late-inning quality  for a stituation like tonight..why waste them when its 16-1 or whatever the score was at the time.  Tonight, Harang&#8217;s a different story.  But nonetheless. 1-10 with RISP is a tough pill to swallow.  I don&#8217;t know why the management doesn&#8217;t coach a little more small ball in these stituations because the players don&#8217;t seem capable of it at times, or at least they are not all on the same page to pull it off.     Man, they&#8217;ve got oodles of god-given talent, and  good dispositons&#8230;they just need a serious shot of baseball IQ and the rest is history.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mg52</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113775</link> <dc:creator>mg52</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:18:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113775</guid> <description>At the moment, I do not support the idea of trading for Halladay. Halladay has only known the Blue Jays&#039; organization; there is no telling how he would blend into Phils&#039;. This is a championship team, and we do not know how he would fare in such an environment. He very well could be a quality start machine for the Phils just as he has been for the Jays, but minor league depth is critical for defending champions more than anybody else. The entire league is out to prove themselves against the Phils; if any of the players falter under that kind of pressure as the season goes on, hungry, dynamic youngsters could provide the right balance. Losing Happ and/or Drabek - among others - would be too high a price. This is not to downplay that which Halladay could bring to the ballclub. Indeed, his success would likely continue and the Phils would have a rotation to remember. But who knows how long that will last?
Tonight, Lidge should have been able to keep the score level. Yes, closers by definition thrive in save situations, but baseball demands that all players play as consistently as possible in whatever situation arises. I do give Lidge credit for trying, though, especially since he is still getting back into the swing of things after the injury.
The real problem - this is, of course, the topic of the night - is the offensive letdown from last night. No one had anticipated another blowout, but the contrast was much starker than it needed to be. Their offensive output came, once again, from the longball. Mitch Williams was spot on during the post game. He declared that even a squeeze play isn&#039;t a bad thing to try when RISP haven&#039;t been driven in. Harang is a good pitcher, too, but one whom the Phils have faced on several occasions. I keep wondering why the Phils&#039; team batting average has to be this low in relation to the number of runs that they have scored. While a high-echelon pitcher should be on their wish list, the Phils have to consider what offensive upgrades they can make so that they don&#039;t go cold in the clutch on a frequent basis.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment, I do not support the idea of trading for Halladay. Halladay has only known the Blue Jays&#8217; organization; there is no telling how he would blend into Phils&#8217;. This is a championship team, and we do not know how he would fare in such an environment. He very well could be a quality start machine for the Phils just as he has been for the Jays, but minor league depth is critical for defending champions more than anybody else. The entire league is out to prove themselves against the Phils; if any of the players falter under that kind of pressure as the season goes on, hungry, dynamic youngsters could provide the right balance. Losing Happ and/or Drabek &#8211; among others &#8211; would be too high a price. This is not to downplay that which Halladay could bring to the ballclub. Indeed, his success would likely continue and the Phils would have a rotation to remember. But who knows how long that will last?<br
/> Tonight, Lidge should have been able to keep the score level. Yes, closers by definition thrive in save situations, but baseball demands that all players play as consistently as possible in whatever situation arises. I do give Lidge credit for trying, though, especially since he is still getting back into the swing of things after the injury.<br
/> The real problem &#8211; this is, of course, the topic of the night &#8211; is the offensive letdown from last night. No one had anticipated another blowout, but the contrast was much starker than it needed to be. Their offensive output came, once again, from the longball. Mitch Williams was spot on during the post game. He declared that even a squeeze play isn&#8217;t a bad thing to try when RISP haven&#8217;t been driven in. Harang is a good pitcher, too, but one whom the Phils have faced on several occasions. I keep wondering why the Phils&#8217; team batting average has to be this low in relation to the number of runs that they have scored. While a high-echelon pitcher should be on their wish list, the Phils have to consider what offensive upgrades they can make so that they don&#8217;t go cold in the clutch on a frequent basis.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Grrrumpy Miner</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113774</link> <dc:creator>Grrrumpy Miner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:10:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113774</guid> <description>It also looks like everyone has thrown the Mets in 4th...why not have us drop deeper maybe behind the Nats...its not too late for dead last.Leave the Amazins for dead,thats fine by me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also looks like everyone has thrown the Mets in 4th&#8230;why not have us drop deeper maybe behind the Nats&#8230;its not too late for dead last.Leave the Amazins for dead,thats fine by me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eli</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113773</link> <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:10:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113773</guid> <description>I would rather see the Phillies loose then the mets win somedays. I lead a dull life.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather see the Phillies loose then the mets win somedays. I lead a dull life.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bobby in Boston</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113772</link> <dc:creator>Bobby in Boston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:08:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113772</guid> <description>Eli, you are living in a fantasy world, but I like your positivity, even if you are a lousy Mets fan. At least you&#039;re not a closeted Met fan, like mikemike.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli, you are living in a fantasy world, but I like your positivity, even if you are a lousy Mets fan. At least you&#8217;re not a closeted Met fan, like mikemike.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Grrrumpy Miner</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113771</link> <dc:creator>Grrrumpy Miner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:08:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113771</guid> <description>I tend to wonder...where was Eli all weekend when we got swept.You come in when the Phils lose? Is THAT the only satisfaction you have.Mets lost too bub PLUS I saw at least ONE Mets based team win in Coney Island...Cyclones-3/Iron Birds-2 Had fun and great to see a team play with heart and a want to win.16-2 now In the NY-Penn League.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to wonder&#8230;where was Eli all weekend when we got swept.You come in when the Phils lose? Is THAT the only satisfaction you have.Mets lost too bub PLUS I saw at least ONE Mets based team win in Coney Island&#8230;Cyclones-3/Iron Birds-2 Had fun and great to see a team play with heart and a want to win.16-2 now In the NY-Penn League.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eli</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113770</link> <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:03:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113770</guid> <description>ATOPTHENLEAST - all fans but you are smart they fear us and our power. rememebr we were atop in 2006, 2007 and 2008. We are the team to beat this year once everyone gets back. Your fans know it and that is why they hate us</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATOPTHENLEAST &#8211; all fans but you are smart they fear us and our power. rememebr we were atop in 2006, 2007 and 2008. We are the team to beat this year once everyone gets back. Your fans know it and that is why they hate us</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bobby in Boston</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113768</link> <dc:creator>Bobby in Boston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:01:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113768</guid> <description>This one hurts a bit, but we&#039;ll bounce back tomorrow with our sudden Cy Young candidate on the hill, Rodrigo Lopez. Seriously, this is the way baseball goes. One night, everything you hit finds a hole and the next you can&#039;t hit the broad side of a barn with men in scoring position. But I agree with the postings about bringing in Lidge. You don&#039;t bring your closer into a tie game in the 9th inning. Just asking for trouble.Obviously a game we should have won, but as others have pointed out, Happ looked good and the Phils have given up exactly 7 runs in the past five games.  And the five starters pitched into or beyond the 7th inning in every one of those games. This is what we need to keep an eye on to gauge postseason hopes. If the pitchers come close to that performance these next five games, I&#039;m feeling good. I agree that we could use another right-handed bat, but overall, the offense isn&#039;t broken, it just tends to chug to a halt when Jimmy is off, as he was tonight. Utley, Howard, Werth, Ruiz are fairly consistent, whether great, good, or fair. What we need is Jimmy to keep getting multi-hit games and Ibanez to return after the all-star break.And yeah, Halladay would be nice, but I&#039;m not holding my breath. We&#039;d have to trade Happ and probably two other very promising minor league pitchers, along with some key position player. Maybe more. The price is going to be very steep. Halladay is a horse and he&#039;s saying all the right things. The Red Sox may be in the best position because they&#039;re so deep. But according to Ken Rosenthal, we&#039;re a leading contender. It&#039;s going to be very interesting.http://bit.ly/pSTkU</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one hurts a bit, but we&#8217;ll bounce back tomorrow with our sudden Cy Young candidate on the hill, Rodrigo Lopez. Seriously, this is the way baseball goes. One night, everything you hit finds a hole and the next you can&#8217;t hit the broad side of a barn with men in scoring position. But I agree with the postings about bringing in Lidge. You don&#8217;t bring your closer into a tie game in the 9th inning. Just asking for trouble.</p><p>Obviously a game we should have won, but as others have pointed out, Happ looked good and the Phils have given up exactly 7 runs in the past five games.  And the five starters pitched into or beyond the 7th inning in every one of those games. This is what we need to keep an eye on to gauge postseason hopes. If the pitchers come close to that performance these next five games, I&#8217;m feeling good. I agree that we could use another right-handed bat, but overall, the offense isn&#8217;t broken, it just tends to chug to a halt when Jimmy is off, as he was tonight. Utley, Howard, Werth, Ruiz are fairly consistent, whether great, good, or fair. What we need is Jimmy to keep getting multi-hit games and Ibanez to return after the all-star break.</p><p>And yeah, Halladay would be nice, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath. We&#8217;d have to trade Happ and probably two other very promising minor league pitchers, along with some key position player. Maybe more. The price is going to be very steep. Halladay is a horse and he&#8217;s saying all the right things. The Red Sox may be in the best position because they&#8217;re so deep. But according to Ken Rosenthal, we&#8217;re a leading contender. It&#8217;s going to be very interesting.</p><p><a
href="http://bit.ly/pSTkU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/pSTkU</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ATOPTHENLEAST</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113767</link> <dc:creator>ATOPTHENLEAST</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:01:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113767</guid> <description>Why must everyone on this blog worry about the Mets. How about we worry about our own team and its flaws. 5 games over .500 is hardly anything to be excited about. We swept the Mets, congrats. We beat up on a horrible team ravaged by injuries. Imagine us being competitive without Howard/Ibanez/Rollins/Madson/2 our our starters. Stop continuing Philly&#039;s inferiority complex with New York. We shouldn&#039;t respond to Mets fans who post here. Just worry about ourselves. Before we know it we&#039;ll be in 2nd behind the Marlins. Forget the Mets.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why must everyone on this blog worry about the Mets. How about we worry about our own team and its flaws. 5 games over .500 is hardly anything to be excited about. We swept the Mets, congrats. We beat up on a horrible team ravaged by injuries. Imagine us being competitive without Howard/Ibanez/Rollins/Madson/2 our our starters. Stop continuing Philly&#8217;s inferiority complex with New York. We shouldn&#8217;t respond to Mets fans who post here. Just worry about ourselves. Before we know it we&#8217;ll be in 2nd behind the Marlins. Forget the Mets.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Manny</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113766</link> <dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:55:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113766</guid> <description>Last time I checked the METS lost, too. And oh, nevermind that there are 2 very good teams above them...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I checked the METS lost, too. And oh, nevermind that there are 2 very good teams above them&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: j reed</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113765</link> <dc:creator>j reed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:48:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113765</guid> <description>mikemike - why would an AL team need a utility fielder like bruntlett or if donald is in the deal, isn&#039;t that redundant since he&#039;s being hyped as a utility man?  And why would the Jays take Stairs back?  Oh wait i didn&#039;t see Hill, there. I suppose Donald  is for Hill.  Don&#039;t think the Jays will give both up when they can get so much for 1 SP.  Hill&#039;s 27 years.  27-30 are the prime years when most players put up there best stats.  He&#039;s also a 2nd basemen....and we already have the best in mlb.  What turn him into a SS?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mikemike &#8211; why would an AL team need a utility fielder like bruntlett or if donald is in the deal, isn&#8217;t that redundant since he&#8217;s being hyped as a utility man?  And why would the Jays take Stairs back?  Oh wait i didn&#8217;t see Hill, there. I suppose Donald  is for Hill.  Don&#8217;t think the Jays will give both up when they can get so much for 1 SP.  Hill&#8217;s 27 years.  27-30 are the prime years when most players put up there best stats.  He&#8217;s also a 2nd basemen&#8230;.and we already have the best in mlb.  What turn him into a SS?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eli</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113764</link> <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:48:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113764</guid> <description>Pretty soon you all will be regretting the mets. we will come back healthier and wealthier and take this division. Reyes, Delgado, Beltran and Perez will come back and be perfect.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty soon you all will be regretting the mets. we will come back healthier and wealthier and take this division. Reyes, Delgado, Beltran and Perez will come back and be perfect.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geoff</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113763</link> <dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:42:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113763</guid> <description>Stairs came from Toronto for Fabio Castro in a waiver-trade.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stairs came from Toronto for Fabio Castro in a waiver-trade.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Morris Buttermaker</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113762</link> <dc:creator>Morris Buttermaker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:42:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113762</guid> <description>Werth hits the grand slam last night with the Phillies up by 17.  But this is the 3rd time in about 10 days that he has come up to the plate with the bases loaded and crapped the bed.I don&#039;t quite understand it.  This team some times has the attitude of somebody else will take care of it, and then later seems to have a trying to do too much attitude.  The division is there for the taking right now.  They need to jump on it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werth hits the grand slam last night with the Phillies up by 17.  But this is the 3rd time in about 10 days that he has come up to the plate with the bases loaded and crapped the bed.</p><p>I don&#8217;t quite understand it.  This team some times has the attitude of somebody else will take care of it, and then later seems to have a trying to do too much attitude.  The division is there for the taking right now.  They need to jump on it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff of NoVa.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113761</link> <dc:creator>Jeff of NoVa.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:41:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113761</guid> <description>yeah here comes those mets 8-0 yo the dodgers</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah here comes those mets 8-0 yo the dodgers</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mikemike</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113760</link> <dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113760</guid> <description>Stairs came from the rays</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stairs came from the rays</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mikemike</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/gameday-reds-40-41-at-phillies-43-37/comment-page-3/#comment-113759</link> <dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5973#comment-113759</guid> <description>Geoff you are another idiot. for real, do us a favor and don&#039;t post</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff you are another idiot. for real, do us a favor and don&#8217;t post</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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