Comments on: Hamels Horrendous in 11-1 Loss http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: What''''s Wrong With Hamels? | Heard in the Cheap Seatshttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111870 What''''s Wrong With Hamels? | Heard in the Cheap Seats Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:04:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111870 [...] pitching.  When Hamels is on the mound, the bullpen is supposed to get a bit of a break.  I am not saying that we should expect the  nearly perfect Hamels of the 2008 postseason, but we should expect more than what has been shown so far.  Look around the league at the aces of [...] [...] pitching.  When Hamels is on the mound, the bullpen is supposed to get a bit of a break.  I am not saying that we should expect the  nearly perfect Hamels of the 2008 postseason, but we should expect more than what has been shown so far.  Look around the league at the aces of [...]

]]> By: NJhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111826 NJ Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:54:07 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111826 This goes back to the offense not finding a way to at least show positives in losses. The pitching has been very bad at times but when your an offensive ballclub and your bats can't even manage some small-ball it always feels like the clocks ticking on the pitching imploding.I really don't think additions will improve the Phillies right now, a bench bat or starter no matter what the calibre isn't going to cover over the reason this team is loosing games, too many of them without showing any signs of being able to re-bound by showing strong fundamental baseball giving allowing too many pitchers career performances.The fundamentals need to be better, the preparation and game management needs to be better.Geoff- you seem angry we haven't landed Dan Haren, maybe if you call Josh Byrnes yourself with your proposal above on behalf of Ruben YOU might be able to get the deal done... You'll probably need to throw tweety bird and curious george into the offer though, then offer Pat Overholt to JP Ricciardi for Roy Halladay and PTBNL to fill the need at the back of the Jays bullpen. As for Marquis get your facts right again before you start bleating, the Phils balked at a deal that would have brought Marquis and Spillborghs but would have meant sending JA Happ and minor leaguers to Colorado, do you really think that would have been a good deal? This goes back to the offense not finding a way to at least show positives in losses. The pitching has been very bad at times but when your an offensive ballclub and your bats can’t even manage some small-ball it always feels like the clocks ticking on the pitching imploding.

I really don’t think additions will improve the Phillies right now, a bench bat or starter no matter what the calibre isn’t going to cover over the reason this team is loosing games, too many of them without showing any signs of being able to re-bound by showing strong fundamental baseball giving allowing too many pitchers career performances.

The fundamentals need to be better, the preparation and game management needs to be better.

Geoff- you seem angry we haven’t landed Dan Haren, maybe if you call Josh Byrnes yourself with your proposal above on behalf of Ruben YOU might be able to get the deal done… You’ll probably need to throw tweety bird and curious george into the offer though, then offer Pat Overholt to JP Ricciardi for Roy Halladay and PTBNL to fill the need at the back of the Jays bullpen. As for Marquis get your facts right again before you start bleating, the Phils balked at a deal that would have brought Marquis and Spillborghs but would have meant sending JA Happ and minor leaguers to Colorado, do you really think that would have been a good deal?

]]> By: Chuck Phttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111821 Chuck P Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:41:19 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111821 This team did not overachieve last year, in my opinion... several players fell short of their career numbers but there was consistency and that's the biggest difference between 2008 and 2009. Aside from some issues with our back-end starters, we never had to deal with juggling the rotation or the bullpen, for that matter. I mean, you knew that Hamels and Moyer were there and healthy... you knew that Myers was going to give it a go and we managed the back-end with a mixture of Blanton/Happ/Kendrick. This year, the injury bug has bit us at almost every position... 2b, 3b, SS (mental injury), LF, SP, RP, CL... it's tough to fight through that stuff without feeling sorry for yourself. You can sit here and feel desperate but we're still in first, guys. And even if we funk until the AS break, we're going to be in it down the stretch and if there's one thing that I feel confident about it's that this team will fight until the end. There is no quit in this team...On a sour note... I have tickets to tomorrow's game. Rodrigo Lopez? Are you f*ing kidding me? Where's Carrasco? I would take Kendrick, or Carpenter over Lopez.Yesterday, Ibanez took batting practice with Reading and Michael Taylor hit his 15th HR of the season. This team did not overachieve last year, in my opinion… several players fell short of their career numbers but there was consistency and that’s the biggest difference between 2008 and 2009. Aside from some issues with our back-end starters, we never had to deal with juggling the rotation or the bullpen, for that matter. I mean, you knew that Hamels and Moyer were there and healthy… you knew that Myers was going to give it a go and we managed the back-end with a mixture of Blanton/Happ/Kendrick. This year, the injury bug has bit us at almost every position… 2b, 3b, SS (mental injury), LF, SP, RP, CL… it’s tough to fight through that stuff without feeling sorry for yourself. You can sit here and feel desperate but we’re still in first, guys. And even if we funk until the AS break, we’re going to be in it down the stretch and if there’s one thing that I feel confident about it’s that this team will fight until the end. There is no quit in this team…

On a sour note… I have tickets to tomorrow’s game. Rodrigo Lopez? Are you f*ing kidding me? Where’s Carrasco? I would take Kendrick, or Carpenter over Lopez.

Yesterday, Ibanez took batting practice with Reading and Michael Taylor hit his 15th HR of the season.

]]> By: kenghttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111807 keng Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:44:37 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111807 hey, i met my wife at a party 18 years ago i could have just as easily not gone to - i asked her to marry me 1 hour later - i now have 4 great kids and am very happily married - lifes about chance, fortuity, windows of opportunity, capitalizing etc - the phils just barely got in last year - if 1 walk off home run by howard went 5 more feet to the right and landed foul - we would have won nothing! - and of course there would have been no playoffs and world series for these guys where they really caught lightening in a bottle like we all know they are capable of at times - and we all would have been quite disappointed about another season where we came up empty handed - we would have moaned and groaned and complained incessantly - and instead of everyone being tied up over the winter with longish contracts the team would have probably been torn apart - atleast to an extent - and instead of everyone being in love with this team and thinking repeat and about the big red machine etc - we would have thought these guys were dogs - almost every one of them!! - and thats just if the result of 1 out of 60,000 pitches on 1 team had landed differently by 5 feet!!!! - man the difference between great and bad in baseball as in life can be infintesimal!!!! - so is this a great team or a bad team? - or a pretty good mix of a team that had a great year because of lots of little things that broke right for them - but this year things are just not breaking as right!? - i think a little perspective is probably in order both about last year and about this year - and for that matter about baseball and about life - and for that matter about the extent to which we romanticize and tend to turn great things into all around greater things and bad things into all around worse things!! - enjoy ur day!! hey, i met my wife at a party 18 years ago i could have just as easily not gone to – i asked her to marry me 1 hour later – i now have 4 great kids and am very happily married – lifes about chance, fortuity, windows of opportunity, capitalizing etc – the phils just barely got in last year – if 1 walk off home run by howard went 5 more feet to the right and landed foul – we would have won nothing! – and of course there would have been no playoffs and world series for these guys where they really caught lightening in a bottle like we all know they are capable of at times – and we all would have been quite disappointed about another season where we came up empty handed – we would have moaned and groaned and complained incessantly – and instead of everyone being tied up over the winter with longish contracts the team would have probably been torn apart – atleast to an extent – and instead of everyone being in love with this team and thinking repeat and about the big red machine etc – we would have thought these guys were dogs – almost every one of them!! – and thats just if the result of 1 out of 60,000 pitches on 1 team had landed differently by 5 feet!!!! – man the difference between great and bad in baseball as in life can be infintesimal!!!! – so is this a great team or a bad team? – or a pretty good mix of a team that had a great year because of lots of little things that broke right for them – but this year things are just not breaking as right!? – i think a little perspective is probably in order both about last year and about this year – and for that matter about baseball and about life – and for that matter about the extent to which we romanticize and tend to turn great things into all around greater things and bad things into all around worse things!! – enjoy ur day!!

]]> By: phanmanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111803 phanman Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:46:05 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111803 Maybe tonite the HAPPSTER will come thru for da phillies...but the offense is not gonna show up so HAPPSTER must do it on his own....J Ro doesn't even deserve a nick name .....Vic come on wheres the spirit .....and Howard closing in on 100 K's before the break ...figures....Hamels should go on the dl list for 2 weeks give him a box of tissues to go let him go cry to Mama poor thing...oh and cut off all the "pitchers" with the little "cud" under the chin ya don't look menacing for one minutes Brad oh Brad...can anyone guess who didn't wear their philly colors during the Fluke Parade of 2008 ....hint 1 guy is no longer on the team.....at least the Tmac and Wheelers are still coming up with some bonified excuses for us as to why we keep losing ....would anyone be surprised if Charlie was fired after the All- Star game......the fluke are running down the shore ....lets all go fishing! Maybe tonite the HAPPSTER will come thru for da phillies…but the offense is not gonna show up so HAPPSTER must do it on his own….J Ro doesn’t even deserve a nick name …..Vic come on wheres the spirit …..and Howard closing in on 100 K’s before the break …figures….Hamels should go on the dl list for 2 weeks give him a box of tissues to go let him go cry to Mama poor thing…oh and cut off all the “pitchers” with the little “cud” under the chin ya don’t look menacing for one minutes Brad oh Brad…can anyone guess who didn’t wear their philly colors during the Fluke Parade of 2008 ….hint 1 guy is no longer on the team…..at least the Tmac and Wheelers are still coming up with some bonified excuses for us as to why we keep losing ….would anyone be surprised if Charlie was fired after the All- Star game……the fluke are running down the shore ….lets all go fishing!

]]> By: DHallhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111802 DHall Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:41:48 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111802 Hopefully this team will fall out of first place tonight. They don't deserve to be there. They've played like crap for most of season so far. I'm starting to wonder...did they overperform last year? Maybe this team is not as good as we thought. After all, they didn't look very good last year until the end. Hopefully this team will fall out of first place tonight. They don’t deserve to be there. They’ve played like crap for most of season so far. I’m starting to wonder…did they overperform last year? Maybe this team is not as good as we thought. After all, they didn’t look very good last year until the end.

]]> By: chuckhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111797 chuck Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:28:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111797 sigh---what the hell. The phillies are just getting the hell kicked out of them right now, and looking depressed about it. Then fans are getting pissed off, and the Phils need to start showing emotion. sigh—what the hell. The phillies are just getting the hell kicked out of them right now, and looking depressed about it. Then fans are getting pissed off, and the Phils need to start showing emotion.

]]> By: » Braves Pummel Phillies on Jurrjens’ 7 Inning 1 Hitter | Blogging-Baseball.comhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111796 » Braves Pummel Phillies on Jurrjens’ 7 Inning 1 Hitter | Blogging-Baseball.com Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:46:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111796 [...] bummer can be viewed by clicking here.  But for the rest of us who want quick and speedy closure, Phillies Nation’s Amanda Orr offers a quick and concise recap: Jair Jurrjens, the Braves starting pitcher, started with a soft hit to right field.  Gregor Blanco [...] [...] bummer can be viewed by clicking here.  But for the rest of us who want quick and speedy closure, Phillies Nation’s Amanda Orr offers a quick and concise recap: Jair Jurrjens, the Braves starting pitcher, started with a soft hit to right field.  Gregor Blanco [...]

]]> By: 4daysrest.comhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111795 4daysrest.com Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:13:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111795 A couple thoughts:-Cole Hamels is clearly not the same pitcher we saw at any point last year. He's shown one flash of brilliance this year, against the Dodgers, and that was it. He doesn't have that killer instinct and as soon as something goes wrong, the game gets out of hand for him.-Kyle Drabek is a stud. He came on in relief (?) tonight after Scott Eyre started the game and got rocked (including a homer by the first batter he faced). Drabek gave up 3 runs over 6.1 innings, all of which were in his first inning. Then he scattered two hits over the next 5 innings. Oh, and he also went 3-for-3 at the plate while driving in a run.-These Phillies hitters are pathetic because they play tag-along like a bunch of 6 year olds. If the first few guys start the game hot and are hitting the ball, everybody else hits. If the first few guys get themselves out and can't make anything happen, that's the story for the rest of the game. It's so frustrating to watch. A couple thoughts:

-Cole Hamels is clearly not the same pitcher we saw at any point last year. He’s shown one flash of brilliance this year, against the Dodgers, and that was it. He doesn’t have that killer instinct and as soon as something goes wrong, the game gets out of hand for him.

-Kyle Drabek is a stud. He came on in relief (?) tonight after Scott Eyre started the game and got rocked (including a homer by the first batter he faced). Drabek gave up 3 runs over 6.1 innings, all of which were in his first inning. Then he scattered two hits over the next 5 innings. Oh, and he also went 3-for-3 at the plate while driving in a run.

-These Phillies hitters are pathetic because they play tag-along like a bunch of 6 year olds. If the first few guys start the game hot and are hitting the ball, everybody else hits. If the first few guys get themselves out and can’t make anything happen, that’s the story for the rest of the game. It’s so frustrating to watch.

]]> By: M.P. aka A.J. #54http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111793 M.P. aka A.J. #54 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:48:58 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111793 mets fan - yes, that would be the only joy you'll get from the Mets this year. Nice of you to show only after HOW MANY losses in a row and HOW MANY runs could you score? Such wusses. mets fan – yes, that would be the only joy you’ll get from the Mets this year. Nice of you to show only after HOW MANY losses in a row and HOW MANY runs could you score? Such wusses.

]]> By: mets fanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111792 mets fan Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:20:50 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111792 Hope Phillies get swept by Braves tomorrow and Mets this weekend. It will be a nice wonderful 4th of July for mets fan. Hope Phillies get swept by Braves tomorrow and Mets this weekend. It will be a nice wonderful 4th of July for mets fan.

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111791 j reed Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:54:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111791 jeffs- on Bako, I agree well to the extent that catchers calling a game is an important part of the game, but with Hamels, he really only has two pitches. Other than calling locations i don't know how much that could have affected Hamels pitching. Last night, however Ruiz called a bad game esp. with Park and that comeback fastball to I think Blanco who so obviously hasn't learned how to deal with the big league curve. As for Hamels well I've said it again and again in this blog, that the league has caught up to our four seamer fastball/change-up lefty because without a true third pitch batters finally realized that they have a 50/50 chance of guessing what's coming. Hopefully he can work on his curveball on his off days or maybe someone needs to call Myers to coach him...I really miss watching guys bail on myers' yakker . jeffs- on Bako, I agree well to the extent that catchers calling a game is an important part of the game, but with Hamels, he really only has two pitches. Other than calling locations i don’t know how much that could have affected Hamels pitching. Last night, however Ruiz called a bad game esp. with Park and that comeback fastball to I think Blanco who so obviously hasn’t learned how to deal with the big league curve. As for Hamels well I’ve said it again and again in this blog, that the league has caught up to our four seamer fastball/change-up lefty because without a true third pitch batters finally realized that they have a 50/50 chance of guessing what’s coming. Hopefully he can work on his curveball on his off days or maybe someone needs to call Myers to coach him…I really miss watching guys bail on myers’ yakker .

]]> By: Trent (from jersey)http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111789 Trent (from jersey) Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:41:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111789 wow man...this is pretty damn bad.....I am a positive guy and I would like to say that the Phillies are gonna turn things around, they WILL!!! look at the stats....ok the 1st of July and we got our asses handed to us...but JULY is our month....were gonna turn ourselves around and start playin some goddamn PHILADELPHIA baseball.....listen guys...were all philly fans here.....the team is talented.....we just need to keep our heads up.....im tired of losing, but im really tired of coming on to this website and seeing depressing, shitty ass posts......JESUS GUYS....CMON.....the phillies will figure it out and Hamels/Rollins/rest of the team will get back on pace....can we just be positive for ONCE!!!! this happens to every team.....what would be the fun in winning every single ball game, its fun for your team to face adversity......that sounds stupid as hell, but its true......for all thats good in PHILLY we are a brotherhood and WE MUST STICK TOGETHER!!!! p.s. Bobby in Boston, I love the positive attitude man! wow man…this is pretty damn bad…..I am a positive guy and I would like to say that the Phillies are gonna turn things around, they WILL!!! look at the stats….ok the 1st of July and we got our asses handed to us…but JULY is our month….were gonna turn ourselves around and start playin some goddamn PHILADELPHIA baseball…..listen guys…were all philly fans here…..the team is talented…..we just need to keep our heads up…..im tired of losing, but im really tired of coming on to this website and seeing depressing, shitty ass posts……JESUS GUYS….CMON…..the phillies will figure it out and Hamels/Rollins/rest of the team will get back on pace….can we just be positive for ONCE!!!! this happens to every team…..what would be the fun in winning every single ball game, its fun for your team to face adversity……that sounds stupid as hell, but its true……for all thats good in PHILLY we are a brotherhood and WE MUST STICK TOGETHER!!!! p.s. Bobby in Boston, I love the positive attitude man!

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111788 j reed Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:40:10 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111788 jeffs- on Bako, I agree well to the extent that catchers calling a game is an important part of the game, but with Hamels, he really only has two pitches. Other than calling locations i don't know how much that could have affected Hamels pitching. Last night, however Ruiz called a bad game esp. with Park and that comeback fastball to I think Blanco who so obviously hadn't learned how to deal with the big league curve. jeffs- on Bako, I agree well to the extent that catchers calling a game is an important part of the game, but with Hamels, he really only has two pitches. Other than calling locations i don’t know how much that could have affected Hamels pitching. Last night, however Ruiz called a bad game esp. with Park and that comeback fastball to I think Blanco who so obviously hadn’t learned how to deal with the big league curve.

]]> By: Paulhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111787 Paul Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:24:04 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111787 UGLY, glad I didn't stay home to watch this one.Get ready for second place Phils fan, this team is a mess right now. UGLY, glad I didn’t stay home to watch this one.

Get ready for second place Phils fan, this team is a mess right now.

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111786 j reed Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:21:06 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111786 mg52-it's not a bad idea...check this out. It's about a blogger who used data from the MLB gameday pitch fx to write a letter to the Marnier's pitching coach about ace Felix Hernadez. Here's an excerpt from SLATE about it. Also I provided a link to the actual letter. "The crowning achievement of the Gameday researchers and, I would argue, one of the greatest moments for nerdom since Ric Ocasek married Paulina Porizkova, occurred earlier this summer in Seattle. Dave Cameron, a writer for the U.S.S. Mariner blog, was trying to figure out why hitters were getting to M's ace Felix Hernandez in the early innings. Cameron turned to Gameday's database, which helped him figure out that King Felix's problem is pitch selection: The dude throws too many fastballs. So, Cameron posted his findings in a beautifully argued open letter to the Mariners pitching coach. The coach printed out the post and handed it to Hernandez. Next time out, the pitcher laid off the fastball and threw eight innings of shutout ball. Bloggers around the world should tack up portraits of Cameron in their living rooms."http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/ mg52-it’s not a bad idea…check this out. It’s about a blogger who used data from the MLB gameday pitch fx to write a letter to the Marnier’s pitching coach about ace Felix Hernadez. Here’s an excerpt from SLATE about it. Also I provided a link to the actual letter.
“The crowning achievement of the Gameday researchers and, I would argue, one of the greatest moments for nerdom since Ric Ocasek married Paulina Porizkova, occurred earlier this summer in Seattle. Dave Cameron, a writer for the U.S.S. Mariner blog, was trying to figure out why hitters were getting to M’s ace Felix Hernandez in the early innings. Cameron turned to Gameday’s database, which helped him figure out that King Felix’s problem is pitch selection: The dude throws too many fastballs. So, Cameron posted his findings in a beautifully argued open letter to the Mariners pitching coach. The coach printed out the post and handed it to Hernandez. Next time out, the pitcher laid off the fastball and threw eight innings of shutout ball. Bloggers around the world should tack up portraits of Cameron in their living rooms.”

http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/

]]> By: mikeBhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111785 mikeB Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:16:23 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111785 Phillies should have kept Jenkins and went with the platoon of Werth and Jenkins in right field. Werth against lefties and Jenkins against righties. Werth would have gotten to play the majority of the games anyway with all of the lefties that the Phillies see. Maybe Geoff could have turned it around this year. At least would have been a pinch hitter with power off of the bench. Phillies should have kept Jenkins and went with the platoon of Werth and Jenkins in right field. Werth against lefties and Jenkins against righties. Werth would have gotten to play the majority of the games anyway with all of the lefties that the Phillies see. Maybe Geoff could have turned it around this year. At least would have been a pinch hitter with power off of the bench.

]]> By: boxagehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111784 boxage Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:08:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111784 they're painful to watch lately they’re painful to watch lately

]]> By: Bobby in Bostonhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111783 Bobby in Boston Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:04:18 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111783 What is going on with Hamels? He's given up 44 hits in his last 27 2/3 innings. Is his velocity down? Location? I rarely seem him pitch. The team doesn't suck, Marty, but it is seriously underachieving right now. We should be at least 10 games up right now. These are the issues, as far as I can tell:LOSING IBANEZ. It's killing the offense. If he doesn't come back or is far off his first-half pace, other people will have to step up. Frankly, I'm not worried about the O, especially because...JIMMY ROLLINS WILL GET HOT. He always does. Look for him to get better as the weather and the pennant race heats up. I guaran-damn-tee it.MORE FROM THE BENCH. Last year, Dobbs, Coste, Bruntlett, etc. got more playing time and contributed much more than this year's bench. Mayberry has helped, but believe it or not, we actually miss Jenkins.NEED MORE PITCHING, BUT NOT MUCH. Really. If Hamels isn't injured, and can get back in the swing after the all-star break, the rotation may be alright. Happ is a keeper. But we need to pick up another decent starter. Moyer and Blanton are wildly inconsistent and it's unclear whether Bastardo and Carrasco will stick. It would have been nice to see Carrasco face the Mets. Maybe Rodrigo Lopez will surprise us, but I doubt he'll be the #5 the rest of the way. If there's any way the Phillies can get Brad Penny, they should grab him. And Bronson Arroyo is a reliable pitcher who is badly in need of a change of scenery. Another one: Doug Davis. Getting a guy like any would do the trick. Sorry, I'm not actually going to propose the trades, but I'm sure the Phils have the material.BULLPEN. It's all about Brad Lidge, folks. He has been awful, yes. But if he can pitch like a monster, I'm not concerned at all about the bullpen. It has been average, Marty, but it should get better, especially if Lidge improves. But there are some names which may be available according to Jayson Stark, like Danys Baez and Scott Schoeneweis.So yes, this has been a disappointing season for the defending world champs, and the pesky Marlins are only a half game back. But the Phillies are clearly the most talented team right now in the NL East, and with better second halves and 1-2 good trades, we'll be fine. This would be a great time for Ruben Amaro Jr. to earn his stripes as a GM. What is going on with Hamels? He’s given up 44 hits in his last 27 2/3 innings. Is his velocity down? Location? I rarely seem him pitch. The team doesn’t suck, Marty, but it is seriously underachieving right now. We should be at least 10 games up right now. These are the issues, as far as I can tell:

LOSING IBANEZ. It’s killing the offense. If he doesn’t come back or is far off his first-half pace, other people will have to step up. Frankly, I’m not worried about the O, especially because…

JIMMY ROLLINS WILL GET HOT. He always does. Look for him to get better as the weather and the pennant race heats up. I guaran-damn-tee it.

MORE FROM THE BENCH. Last year, Dobbs, Coste, Bruntlett, etc. got more playing time and contributed much more than this year’s bench. Mayberry has helped, but believe it or not, we actually miss Jenkins.

NEED MORE PITCHING, BUT NOT MUCH. Really. If Hamels isn’t injured, and can get back in the swing after the all-star break, the rotation may be alright. Happ is a keeper. But we need to pick up another decent starter. Moyer and Blanton are wildly inconsistent and it’s unclear whether Bastardo and Carrasco will stick. It would have been nice to see Carrasco face the Mets. Maybe Rodrigo Lopez will surprise us, but I doubt he’ll be the #5 the rest of the way. If there’s any way the Phillies can get Brad Penny, they should grab him. And Bronson Arroyo is a reliable pitcher who is badly in need of a change of scenery. Another one: Doug Davis. Getting a guy like any would do the trick. Sorry, I’m not actually going to propose the trades, but I’m sure the Phils have the material.

BULLPEN. It’s all about Brad Lidge, folks. He has been awful, yes. But if he can pitch like a monster, I’m not concerned at all about the bullpen. It has been average, Marty, but it should get better, especially if Lidge improves. But there are some names which may be available according to Jayson Stark, like Danys Baez and Scott Schoeneweis.

So yes, this has been a disappointing season for the defending world champs, and the pesky Marlins are only a half game back. But the Phillies are clearly the most talented team right now in the NL East, and with better second halves and 1-2 good trades, we’ll be fine. This would be a great time for Ruben Amaro Jr. to earn his stripes as a GM.

]]> By: martyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111782 marty Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:01:41 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=5797#comment-111782 i keep vic.all the other guys you listed im fine withive been over rollins for years.. his MVP year was a fluke he hasnt done jack shit snce that and not that much great work before it.this team sucks.periodno elite pitcher is going to save themthey suck i keep vic.

all the other guys you listed im fine with

ive been over rollins for years..
his MVP year was a fluke
he hasnt done jack shit snce that and not that much great work before it.

this team sucks.

period

no elite pitcher is going to save them

they suck

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