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Good job Jamie. I definitely support you out there! Here’s to the Mutts fans who said “Old man Moyer won’t hold up” (mets fan, 2009). OOOOOOPSY

I understand you really do not like Met fans M.P. ,but you talk about them a lot for not liking them around. You always engage in convos.

I may not understand though because when people say why don’t you back a philly fan I say well I know many philly fans who are dumb and I dont like.

p.s. If i could edit my punctuation I would.

Today’s was a very nice game. It was even nicer to be at the ballpark. Lidge looked about as strong as he’s looked all seasons, and Moyer was in good form.

One item – I’m confused as to how the Phils could be 99-99 on Independence Day.

We have not been playing baseball for 198 years. I also doubt we played doubleheaders on the 4th in 71 of our 127 seasons.

Am I missing something here?

I’ve not researched this, but there’s the possibility of doubleheaders. However, I don’t think it would account for 198 games. Nice win today, let’s keep this going.

Howard – another excellent possibility. I found the only way to do this is baseball-reference, but I have to go back in year by year. I may do it tomorrow and hope someone else has a lot of time on their hand LOL

We have won every year since 2004 though; lost to the Fish in 2003. Oh hum, 120 more to go

Last person to beat the Mets on July 4: Steve Carlton. Moyer keeps good company

Miles – good point and it backs the one about the negativity I have been complaining about. I won’t claim victory, but we are far from out of the NL East – WITH Jamie.

He HAS been better LATELY. I enjoyed it today, he was good. Better than I had seen him all year. Hey, if he can keep this up thats great.

The thing is with his contract he could suck you know whats and still be kept in the rotation at least all the way through this season.

61-55 since 1931; still going

This was a solid win. This is how the games are supposed to be played. Get out to an early lead, capitalize on the other team’s mistakes, and once you have the lead, keep it. Great game all around.

who is Amanda?

@MP regarding trolls: Engaging them does not make them think twice. Engaging them makes them pee their pants with delight, because the primary objective of a troll is to get attention, and when you engage them, you give them exactly what they want. There is nothing that makes a troll happier than to disrupt an entire chat, get everybody talking about the troll instead of about whatever the purpose of the chat is.

Many years ago, I was in a perfectly nice chat and a troll came in. Everybody harassed the troll, vicious attacks, but nothing seemed to discourage the troll. Then somebody new entered the chat. “What are we talking about tonight?” the new person asked. The troll gleefully replied, “ME!!!!!” That’s what it’s all about. You’ve heard “there’s no such thing as bad publicity”? For a troll, there’s no such thing as bad attention. Doesn’t matter if you’re right; doesn’t matter if you prove that they are wrong, that they are idiots, because you’re talking about them instead of about Phillies baseball, and that’s what they want.

If everybody ignores them, they will go away. But getting everybody to do that is a challenge.

Maverick, by the way, is a troll, and there is really no point in defending Amanda, because we all know better, and he’s not coming back here to read your comments. He just smacked a hornet’s nest with a stick and ran away.

MP,
Tracey is absolutely right with regards to trolls – their prime (and often only) objective is attention of any kind. The only thing that eliminates them is to completely ignore them, as hard as that might be. They’ll get bored and move on.

I’ll compare it loosely to booing guys like T.O. when they come in here. I’ve never understood the point of that when all a creep like that craves is attention. You can see him light up as soon as the boos start.

When will everyone get it that just totally ignoring guys like T.O. and Deion Sanders is the perfect way to abuse them? Guys like that freaking LIVE for that kind of attention, and would be miserable if they were simply ignored.

Use boos and abuse when it helps our guys. Best ever example of that was when the fans literally melted down Burt Hooton in the 1977NLCS. The game turned out to be my all-time Phillies nightmare, but the fans sure as hell did their job.

To author, Amandor Orr:

The Phillies have not been playing for 198 years…how can they POSSIBLY be 99-99 on Independence Day? That would mean the Phillies have been playing baseball since 1811? Weren’t we still fighting the British back then?

Well my boys did supposedly invent the sport, another game we ‘created’ and can’t play worth a shit…

CLIFF READ MY POST – I SPENT A FREAKING HOUR VERIFYING THE INFO SHE RECEIVED: SHE DID NOT MAKE IT UP SHE GOT IT FRMO THE RAIO. Yes I am yelling:

We are indeed 100-99. Apparently it was customary to have doubleheaders until 1953, except in years of war, where July 4 was an off day. I am tired. Amanda, you heard right!

If anyone wants my spreadsheet ask, and I will SHOW you we are 100-99. Took me an hour to do that crap and I had to sit and go year by year by year on the 4th of JULY.

Also, I offered to pay for a server upgrade at PN to require logins, but no response. I had the money to donate, but if they don’t want them, then I will deal with trolls.

Georgie – yeah, sadly. I wonder how many of them are really Mets fans and how many are other fans trying to spark us up? I have to learn to ignore. I hate stupidity though, that is my only problem – I don’t mean like spelling or typos, I make tons of those, but those who say things without thinking.

I want the spreadsheet.

Just kiddin. That’s a pretty good nugget of fact that came out of all that research though. I never knew about the tradition of July 4 double-headers or that there were no July 4 games in war years.

That is why I like you Grrrumpy – fair as always.

Papa Thompson – I was skeptical too, not of Amanda, but of the info she heard. I am ASSUMING that they didn’t do it in war years because in 1916-1917 (I think) and 1941-1943 no 4th of July games were played by the Phillies. Most other years though until 1953 were all doubleheaders. That is what I miss about baseball – doubleheaders. NOT the split doubleheaders, but the one ticket-two game ones.

The first column is the year, second and third is the W-L column. It says 97, but there were two losses I forgot to add, so it is 100-99.

Amanda, I am happy to verify any info first, will e-mail you all my contact info. You are fine though, I think you are doing a great job as I said earlier. That was more directed at the info you heard, not at you. Wherever you heard it, that is reliable!