Comments on: Odds and Ends: Halladay a Hell of a Day

By: Manny

Manny — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:17:58 +0000

Yea, exactly. I also like that quote by Ibanez where he says that he noted something special about Happ… that his pitches would seem like they were 94-95 mph to the batter… very deceptive.

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:16:36 +0000

make that “he didn’t”

The Dipsy

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:14:36 +0000

Thanks Manny. I read it. I don’t wanna quibble with Charlie but I have no freakin’ idea why he would compare JA with Jim Palmer?????? Cuz of the arm speed…uhh…what? Anyway, I mean, I feel you. Happ has been great. I’m rooting for him. Myers was TOM SEAVER, yes, TOM SEAVER down the stretch last year. Crackling fast ball with location (which is usually his problem) and a 12-6 curve. In short, he was flat out sick. J.A. Happ is stealth. He keeps hitters off balance. I like that. His lack of sheer “stuff” also means he’s gotta locate, locate, locate. Which he has been doing. And he better keep doing it because they way he pitches he has a small margin for error. Like Glavine and Pettite. Those guys never lost their control and they won. I hope JA keeps his. If he does he’ll be great. He has been positively Glavine-esqe. His body of work just isn’t large enough to feel comfortable with him going into the post season. And lets face it, weren’t we all waiting for the wheels to come off with Brett last year when he was pitching well? I know I was and happy when they didn’t.

The Dipsy

By: Pat Gallen

Pat Gallen — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:05:44 +0000

Haha, I didnt know that. I felt like it just worked well so I went with it. It’s actually the first time I’ve used it in an article, so feel free to take it back,

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:02:30 +0000

“certain je ne sais quoi”. Unless that’s a favorite of yours also in which case disregard my post. :)

The Dipsy

By: Pat Gallen

Pat Gallen — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:59:25 +0000

Hey Dipsy, what cliche?

By: Manny

Manny — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:48:02 +0000

Dipsy: I recommend this Happ/Myers article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/220667-is-ja-happ-the-answer-to-the-philadelphia-phillies-pitching-questions

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:47:00 +0000

Wait…so we didn’t catch lightning in the bottle? Our rotation was just “that good”?

The Dipsy

By: Manny

Manny — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:44:37 +0000

You forgot to read the part where I say “July 2008″, not August not September…

and, if anything, Joe Blanton is BETTER this year than last year

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:40:56 +0000

I know that. But I do want Halladay – within reason. The fan in me took over. Manny – Myers was the best pitcher in the NL for the last two months of the season last year. Not gonna happen again. Plug in Happ for Myers and its the same rotation? Uhhhhh….no its not. BECAUSE:

1. Hamels 2009 isn’t Hamels 2008;
2. Happ will not be August-Sep Myers 2008 down the stretch and don’t ask me “why not”.
3. Blanton didn’t lose a game for the Phils in 2008.

The Dipsy

By: NJ

NJ — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:24:10 +0000

Sorry Dipsy enjoy the banter with you but I don’t think Halladay at all costs means one World Champion let alone two. A hell of a lot of things need to fall into place to get past the first round of the play-offs and the last decade is littered with teams that got it wrong trying to buy big.

Last year it was a trade for Joe Blanton that won a world championship not CC Sabathia, I’m not saying Halladay doesn’t increase the chances but its about how this team plays not how the rotation stacks up.

I honestly think we can win now with or without Halladay (because the chances are so slim) and I’m damn sure with the right player development we can win in 2 years, 5 years and hopefully longer. The system beats the players.

By: Manny

Manny — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:19:22 +0000

And I bet you would’ve said EXACTLY THE SAME THING on July 20th, 2008 (last year): “Nobody really thinks that the Phils can win THE SERIES with their rotation.” And what happened???

By: Manny

Manny — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:17:46 +0000

Dipsy: umm.. last year we won without Halladay….

Replace Happ with Myers and it’s the same rotation (or even better) that won it all. And the Rays were supposed to have the better pitchers in that series…

By: The Dipsy

The Dipsy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:14:03 +0000

Forget about Myers. And if you wanna win the World Series then YES, you do need Halladay. Lets call a spade a spade. We all want him. We all want the Phils to get him. Nobody really thinks that the Phils can win THE SERIES with their rotation. I’m alive and rooting for the Phillies now. Screw where the Phils are in five years, where will I be in five years? I might be dead. Make…the….deal.

The Dipsy

By: LH

LH — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:58:10 +0000

Cheers back to you Dipsy

By: Chuck P

Chuck P — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:43:27 +0000

I have not heard that Myers will be back in time for the playoffs… if a well-motivated (pending FA) Brett Myers can make it back in time for the playoffs, that would be a huge shot in the arm for this team but I have a feeling that’s a long shot… his hard work in the offseason will help his cause but he’s only one month removed from his surgery. If he comes back and tries to play 75% and gets knocked around, he’s going to kill his chances at landing a contract.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:35:25 +0000

I call BS on that package – its not cool to make stuff up like that man.

By: Manny

Manny — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:31:01 +0000

Someone we’re all forgetting: BRETT MYERS.

From today on bleacherreport.com: “In fact, if Happ can continue to pitch effectively, this year’s rotation could be much better. This is because Brett Myers may be back in the rotation in time for the playoffs. Myers, who had hip surgery in early June, is ahead of schedule and expects to be back this season.”

As of now, Myers could be back sometime in September… and I’m fully confident in his ability to come back throwing fire in the playoffs and be our 4th starter there. If Myers comes back, would we really need Halladay? Of course, this is a big IF, but I believe that team officials are well informed about his current health status and his chances of joining this rotation in October.

I think we can win the NL East with our current starting rotation, but I’m not sure how far we can make it in the playoffs, especially in a short, best-of-5 divisional series.

Trading for a top-tier pitcher is no longer urgent, so let’s not forget all the options we can have down the road.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:18:26 +0000

can’t find anything on mlb.com about it.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:12:16 +0000

^Ryne