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I believe Pedro had a two-run single

What the Cubs did much of today was get hit after hit after hit. Singles and doubles. I was at last night’s game and saw them take long cuts, not getting anything out of it until the very end. If they can buckle down, reduce the strikeouts and increase the amount of singles and doubles, they will be favorites to go on a streak similar to the one we have just seen.
I’m worried about Lidge still. It may be a long shot, but, if Myers returns in August at full strength and pieces together a few good outings out of the ‘pen, it might be worth their while for the Phils to reinstate him as closer. It is the job that he has enjoyed the most, and he has more pitches with which both to deceive and to overpower the opposition than Lidge. I am not saying that Lidge should be discarded – it is just that the idea of Myers at the back end of the ‘pen should not be discarded, either. Lidge has been hit-or-miss all year – even when we have thought that he is “back.” A closer has to be able to deliver, and, if the playoffs are to include the Phils once more, someone else might need to step in. I just can’t keep seeing an honest, dedicated athlete like Lidge not being able to leave the ninth inning unscathed on a consistent basis.
The winning stretch showed what kind of team this is. They defeated both contenders and doormats. The pitchers mostly threw strikes and the offense came up with some big hits. Again, they may have relied on the longball a little too much at times, but I enjoyed what I saw last night and really can’t complain too much. It would be nice to see another ten-win interval go down, but another is not exactly necessary: they have intimidated the rest of the National League and restored a good deal of the confidence that they had lost in mid-to-late June. And who knows? Maybe these guys will repeat as winners of ten consecutive games…or of something much bigger that we all know about by now.

what part of myers 90mph fastball and curveball that doesnt always break overpowers hitters? There is zero chance that he becomes the closer.

I dont understand Lidge right now. He’s gone from perfect, to nearly the complete opposite and don’t try to say it was because it wasn’t a save opportunity. He was flat out pathetic and lacks so much confidence in himself.

Lidge isn’t getting enough work as a ‘closer’, he’s bad in non-save situations and is nothing short of pathetic at just getting the ball over for a few outs to lessen someone elses workload, Madson should have never had to come into the game.

As bad as Moyer was the game was lost by the runs and lack of outs from Durbin, whether he should have been in after monday’s workload is questionable but not being able to get a single outs inexcusable.

Lidge was never a great closer. How was he before he had his perfect season last year? not good. he had some great times but he was always a roller coaster ride. he has never been a solid closer that you can always count on besides last year.
lets face it. last year we won the ws because our hitting is great, our lineup still is good. but our pitching was on cue last year, they were great. this year they are weaker, a lot weaker and a lot more in consistent which is going to be our problem. our lineup is still just as strong but our pitching just had a great year last year, i really dont think many of our pitchers are that great unless they are always on their game. when they pitch averagely they are not that good. thats why we need halladay. we need that pitcher that is always going to be good.

and im sorry but Amanda you need to fix up your writing. there are always mistakes and i feel like people are always correcting you and you go back and correct it. proof read your writing and make sure oyur facts are correct.

<<proof read your writing and make sure oyur facts are correct>>>

Now that made me laugh!
Pedro for closer. I am making tee shirts.

Oh wow I made a typo while typing a post. Its not my job to write articles but if it was I would make sure I did them correctly. I wouldn’t have incorrect facts and typos in an article that I wrote to go online. Also I would rather have typos made instead of incorrect facts. I feel like every night she gets corrected on something whether it was a double or single, or who hit the ball etc. I am allowed to make mistakes, I am a college kid typing a response. She is a writer that writes for a website, shes not allowed to make mistakes every night. I dont mind if it is once and a while.

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Now that made me laugh!

just watched the game on DVR. I am pleasantly surprised and the lack of Moyer hating in here, maybe it is on the other thread. Cause I came in here to take my licks, cause I come on here and defend him against haters like Geoff.
I know it did not cost us the game, but something has to be done about that home plate ump. You have to be more consistant, same pitches called balls then the next up it is a strike.
I believe it is the opposite of what Geoff says about Moyer, I think the umps assume he does not throw stirkes, and squeeze him more than other pitchers.
Just a bad game, they were do for one, I know they will come back tomorrow and start another winning streak

Question: If Charlie’s already been run from a game, who do I get mad at for bringing Lidge into a non-save situation?

If you’re trying to get him back on track, trying to get his confidence back, why on earth do you put him in a spot where — if history’s any indicator — he’s likely to fail?

I understand he can’t blow a game that they’re already losing, so non-saves should be a good opportunity to get him some work. There shouldn’t be any pressure. But it almost always in works in reverse with Lidge.

I agree that the Phillies have few options at this point other than to wait Lidge out and hope he returns to form. Though Madson has been far more solid this year, having Lidge and Madson switch roles seems like a risky move in terms of team chemistry. I’d just like to see the Phils learn from Lidge’s many failures in situations like these, and quit exposing him to them.

7.20 era out of the pen….a closer….the man….ya think he might need to be sent down for re-training!!!!!Let Lidge blow on his “prized” fingers in the minors for awhile….he’s not doing anything great up here…..11.5 million dollars!!!!! I always thought last year was a fluke alot of candy-ass saves for him with little if any pressure….last year’s gone… Hamels Rollins Howard whats he now in S/O’s 111 he’ll make to 200 this year no doubt..I think Charlie and the pitching guru should look for a true bit of help in the pen….starters like Blanton and Happ and Hamels when he feels like it can get it done… Pedro is not gonna help the way they are now it’s likely they could beat the Cards or LA…and Atlanta is on the move….Lopez has looked good by the way….Moyer lets hope he retires this year or at the trade deadline would be better…when you can barely reach the plate and hold your breathe for a strike call out side box its bad…..no other team would sign him he did say he would step down if he wasn’t helping the team…well JAMIE your NOT helping the team!

Hey we can’t win em all. you know we’re lose some more down the stretch. Anyways I think Lidge needs to be sent down to fix his mechanics before the real deal playoffs come. we can’t just let him blow saves and allow runs in close games to make it out of reach for us. To be honest I think if Lidge hadn’t allowed the two runs yesterday, the phillies would have done better in the ninth than a 1-2-3 because face it you’d rather have a 3 run defecit than a 5 run defecit. By adding more to the defecit it takes the heart of the team and the team than just says ah we’ll win the next one. You have to send down Lidge to fix his mechanics and for closer, do spot closer like the Braves and I forget what other team does it, but its successful. One day madson ,other romero and other eyre. spot your closers till lidge fixes it up or trade him and get another closer like george sherrill. He might not be perfect but he doesn’t have a 7+ era out of bullpen. or chad qualls who’s been real solid this year. sherrill: 2.52ERA, 20/23 SV. qualls: 3.63, 18/22 SV.

The D-Backs are believed to be asking for a starting pitching prospect in exchange for Qualls, the Arizona Republic reports.

Who is posting under GEOFF’s name… that was the most un-Geoff-like comment I’ve ever read

I was at the game and I know Durbin and Lidge were technically responsible, but when Ryan Howard hit that weak ground ball with the bases loaded, it just sucked all the energy out of the ballpark. We need a closer and a right handed pinch hitter more than we need a starter. Happ’s undefeated, right???

I think Hamels (being back to form), Blanton and Happ CAN get the job done. If the bullpen is stable and the offense is clicking. We already saw that this team is capable of winning.

But they will add a starting pitcher that will upgrade the rotation, be his name Halladay, Lee or even Harang.

JR is not stupid, they will do something. They will add a starter and a bench bat. No doubt in my mind.

Im not sure Moyer was “bad”, but he didnt doing very good. 4 ER “cahrged” because of errors, but it also seemed at least one ER was from normally AWESOME Defensive players just having a bad day. J-Roll is normally DOMINANT defensively, and it looked to me that he was caught slightly out of position for one of the hits in that bases loaded. I would say about 95%-99% of the time he would have had that ground ball towards short, but he just couldnt get to it on his diving effort. I believe that was 2ER to Moyer, but really, thats just one of those things. Ideally we want 3 or less, but as many people said before, all great streaks need to end sometime. Lets just hope, that was a fluke loss, and not a sign of the next week or two.