I am with The Dipsy!!!

The Dipsy

If you agree with the premise then the question becomes the price. If the Blue Jays will trade him here and Halladay wants to come here and the Phillies want him here then you ask that question. If you’re Ruben Amaro, unless Halladay is holding the Blue Jays hostage by telling them he wants to go, and now, you know the Phillies are gonna get gouged in the deal. Getting gouged is inherent in these kinds of deals. Yes, parting with good prospects is gonna hurt. BUT, TO ME, if we can walk away with Halladay and we can all say something like ‘Damn, it hurt giving up those guys’ as opposed to ‘Damn, we just mortgaged our entire effin future for this guy’ then we should make the trade. Now those are a lot of preconditions that have to be met but its not unrealistic. I will assume that Halladay will be great. I will also assume that one, or two, of the prospects we give up will pan out.

The Dipsy

There is no definitive answer and I’m truly not sure what to do. I selfishly want Halladay if he’s truly available, but at what cost?

I’ll put it plainly….I would sacrifice a repeat THIS year by not getting Halladay if it meant having MULTIPLE titles 2 or 3 years from now by keeping key members of the system (like Drabek for example). I’m not saying that we CAN’T win this year without Halladay and that it’s guaranteed that we win several titles in a few years with our new nucleus of guys. What I’m saying is that giving up too much for ONE GUY may be a mistake.

Just my opinion.

What I meant to say was that the Phillies have a chance to land a superstar and I hope they go that route rather than going after a Doug Davis or Jarrod Washburn.

As long as Blanton gives the Phils a sub 4.50 ERA, he’s doing his job and in the most important game of his life, he came up huge. So you’re right about Blanton, but can’t I be greedy and want Halladay?

“We reported earlier that several teams have balked at the high price the Jays are reportedly asking for Roy Halladay. ESPN Insider’s Keith Law offer some more.

A scout with a club interested in Halladay said that Toronto wants “three 60′s” for the pitcher. In scouting parlance, that’s three prospects that project to be grade 60 players in the majors, or very high level talents. According to Law, that would preclude the Phillies, but it might preclude everyone. Teams hate giving up any prospects who project as 60′s or better, much less several of them. Many simply don’t have that kind of value in their systems.

As Buster Olney noted earlier today, no offer has yet come close.”

I bet that Halladay can be had for less than we think. We all assume that the Jays get Amaro’s first born here, but in reality, most of these trades center around a few prospects with ONE OF THEM being an “A+” player…..or……5 prospects with alot of “B+” players on it. The Phils could pull off the latter IMO and we’ll be extactic.

No you dont trade Carrasco/Happ/Drabek/Taylor in the same deal. If that truely is waht JP wants then it aint gonna happen.

Last year it took Cardenas (B+) and Outman (B+) to get Blanton.

Someone said earlier in the thread about having to “settle for Kyle Lohse.” What’s so bad about that?? He had a huge impact in 2007 in us getting into the playoffs. I wouldn’t mind that kind of guy…a Lohse-type or a Blanton-type coming here……and us NOT giving up guys like Happ and Drabek. Just my opinion.