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Madson needs to stay in the pen until he gets his stuff together. He must be getting the incompetence disease from Lidge. They did their best to lose it last night but somehow Atlanta batters were more incompetent than these two loser closers clowns. Everybodys heart at the bank must have skipped a beat (43,000 missed heart beats) when LL came out (Loser Lidge). It was his game to lose. I guess the odds are he saves one and then gets the BS and losses after. Look for Manuel to bring his buddy Lidge out, even if it’s 10 times in a row. He’ll blow his next 2 save ops and outright lose a game in his next appearances. Ibanez ought to be kissing Howard’s tush because Ibanez is quickly becoming Triple A fodder. He needs to be benched. He’s a friggin disgrace.

by george I think you’re an idiot…….. WTF are you talking about Captain Space Dude? Madson has been lights out. He struggled tonite because umm, umm Charlie made him try to save a game the other day. When he closed earlier in the season and struggled, it took him weeks to recover mentally. Madson will be fine as long as Cholly doesn’t keep moving him back and forth… Tell the guy with the big yellow hat I said hi… Lidge was put in a bad spot on Mon by you know who. Let’s see how he in his next couple of outings… Unfortunately we have no other viable option with at the moment…Ibanez will be fine too. He’s been hitting better as of late, and his triple lead to the very important insurance tonite..

Manuel made everyone happy last night – fans, lidge, madson, chan ho, moyer…. a rare occurrence but it won’t last. Loser Lidge got lucky last night. I’m sure morale went down as soon as he appeared for the save opportunity. I wouldn’t have been surprised if Pedero and Moyer put a towel over their head when Lidge was out there. This is what Schilling did when Mitch Williams was out there because he was always wild and blew saves and lost games for Schilling in 1993. I hope Meyers gets a shot at closer…Lidge needs to be given a couple of weeks off – get his head together – preferably in Triple A territory.

According to George, if major league players are in a slump, the best way is to send them to Triple-A ball? Way to represent intelligent Philly fans.

Please note (B-money in particular): The silly comments posted concerning “Loser Lidge” and other “triple A fodder” were posted by george, not George. I like to think I’m less of a whiner than the george who doesn’t even capitalize his name.

I agree with Repeat!…george (note the non capatilized for letter) is a moron, HOWEVER, he had one thing correct. Every Phillies phans heart skipped a beat with Madson and Lidge. Sadly that was correct, BUT Madson worked out of the jam, unlike when he closes (Madson is just NOT a good closer) and Lidge had a 1-2-3 inning! to George (note the caps in the first letter) may I suggest to add something to your username so you arent confused with the idiot. Oh and another thing for idiot george. I think it would have been a great idea to bench Ibanez last night after he went 0-2 (sarcasm). Oh crap wait a minute, he hit a triple. DUMB@$$. What a disgrace for only hitting a triple. Props to the Old Goat Moyer again. 1 ER in 10.1 innings in relief! As much as I am hesitant to say Pedro is actually effective, its hard to say if he is or isnt back to his old self. His first outing was 5 innings (not bad for a first outing in over a year) He also has 2 outings shortened greatly by rain. True he didnt give up a run last night, but can we really say he is effective in 2 shortened rain outings? I want to see him pitch for 6 innings. The shortened outings due to rain are getting annoying.

george what about Howard? about a month ago he was striking out constantly. Maybe Cholly should have sent him down to triple-A. Uh oh, he has what 15 homer, 29 RBI’s and batting .303 in the last 15 games. Darn. “Stick to your day job…”

You’ve got to give real credit to Jamie Moyer who’s stepped up when called on and has gone out there with a disciplined starters mentality. Those rain delays can cripple a team when it comes at a bad time and to have a guy who in back-to-back appearances has come in and protected the rest of the bullpen is something that cannot be thought of as just a minor thing.

Credit to Lidge to for bouncing back, he should not have been on the mound for the 4th straight day to blow the save the other night and though this isn’t the Lidge of old, he may just be able to suck it up enough and gets the outs to take this team as far as it’s going to go.

NJ- While I’m happy with Lidge’s performance, I saw a couple of pitches last night that should have been crushed but weren’t. Maybe credit to Lidge for having the hitters off balance thus making it able for him to get away with it. Whichever, and whatever, I’m happy with the save. RE: 4 nights in a row, Lidge’s velocity was good on that night he blew the save. He has talked about how he gets sharper the more work he gets. Well, he got it the other night. I want him to pitch well and I hope this is he start of a hot streak for him.

The Dipsy

Madson always has a mini slump after blowing a save which is why he shouldn’t close, period.

I think it’s going to be a fine line for Lidge between him getting crushed off good pitches and getting away with throwing junk, 4 days of work for any reliever is the fine line so it didn’t surprise me to see him struggle no matter how he felt. The results from here-on are all that’s going to matter but for better or worse it’s fair to say we do have our closer, just not the lights out one we want.

In Cholly’s defense, Lidge pitched 4 days in a row once last year. He probably wanted to see if Lidge was all the way back and able to do it again this year. When your team is up so much in the division, you have the luxury of experimenting. The way I see it, there are 2 options for closer in the postseason, Lidge and Myers. I want Lidge in there if he is pitching well. He is a more dominant closer when he’s on than Myers. He has pitched in the highest stress environment last year and dominated. Remember Myers has had struggles as a starter in first innings for the past 2 seasons so there is no guarantee that he would do well with no margin for error.

I’m not sure if Ibanez is just in a slump, or he’s still affected by the injury that interrupted his season. Look at the way he lunges at the ball — he obviously can’t generate power from his legs the way he did early on. In any case, you guys who are ragging on him should step back and think where the team would be if he hadn’t carried it on his shoulders the first two months of the season. And it’s still better to see him out there in left than the lumbering Burrell.

One quick comment for george. How much longer do the Iron Pigs still have on their schedule? Final game is the 7th, I believe. A couple more weeks does not exist in AAA.

The most amazing thing about this team is the way they always have each others’ backs, it doesn’t matter who is faltering or having a rough stretch, someone is there to pick up the slack. There seems to be a closeness among all the players, very rare and not something you see with other teams. I’ve been watching them in the dugout, and the other day when Werth was having a bad day at the plate, he went back to the bench dejected, and one of the guys walked past and patted him on the knee. And after Happ gave up the lead Thurs, same thing in the dugout. I’ve seen Charlie do it too, and it’s little things like that which make the difference between a bunch of guys on the same team and an actual TEAM. It is truly a wonderful time for the Phillies and their fans, and I’m proud to be a member of this teams’ fanbase.

george, you need to get a grip and just enjoy this time, it definitely won’t last forever, and throughout the years there will be more bad teams than good ones, so hop on in for the ride or go screw yourself, makes no diff to me.

Hey, my first sentence ^ rhymes, dig it!

Its not like my rhymes mine are the best.

that was one of the hardest rhymes I was up all night to make it.

The rosters expand on Setember 1. Which is great news because you can bring up some of the young talent to see if they’ve got the nerves to help us in October. That’s how Price got his shot with th Rays last year. I wonder if they’ll bring up Scott Mathieson(probably the wrong spelling). He throws hard and he may be able to help us. And I wonder, just wondering if there are other hard throwing guys that we could bring up… Why not give Mr. Drabek a shot? Does anyone think they’ll bring up Mayberry Jr. again? I don’t know the farm system like many other posters on here, but maybe we give him a few abs here and there. I know he struggled the ist time. But he would be better to start in right from time to time than the struggling Stairs. At the very least he would be a defns upgrade. I think M. Taylor is hurt?

Lets see how you would feel if you got hit in the head by 96 MPH fastball