Blown Away, Again

Posted by Jason Bintliff, Sat, September 05, 2009 10:35 PM | Comments: 66
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With one out and the bases loaded, via two walks from closer Brad Lidge and a Chris Coste good-to-see-you-again single, the Phillies were about to narrowly escape with a win after Ryan Howard fielded a ground ball and threw home for the force out preventing the tying run from scoring.

But the Phillies comeback just wasn’t meant to be.

With the bases still full, the Astros’ Kaz Matsui delivered a two-run, game winning single, while Brad Lidge delivered the Phillies his tenth blown save of the season. Final score, 5-4 in favor of the Astros.

Because Chase Utley sat with a swollen foot, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel had to find other means to revive a flat-lined offense. With his choices limited, Manuel juggled the line-up a bit, batting Shane Victorino lead-off, Jayson Werth in the two-hole, and Jimmy Rollins third in the order. Although the switch-up didn’t help Victorino or Werth’s recent struggles, it did get the offense moving in the right direction.

For the most part, Astros starter Roy Oswalt had the Phillies line-up tied in knots. Oswalt struck out eight in 6.1 innings before finishing the contest early with tightness in his lower back. Oswalt had held the Phillies off of the board to that point, but left the game responsible for two runners on in the seventh inning which both scored.

After getting on the board in the seventh off of Astros reliever Tim Byrdak, the Phillies tied the game in the eighth when Jimmy Rollins scored on a Ryan Howard triple. Pedro Feliz singled Ryan Howard home to give the Phils the lead.

The offense still looked shaky, but was able manufacture four runs, breaking a scoreless streak that started Thursday when they beat the San Francisco Giants 2-1.

Phillies starter Joe Blanton had yet another quality start, going six innings, allowing three runs on six hits, while striking out five. Blanton didn’t look crisp, but kept the game close enough for the Phillies to claw back.

Chan Ho Park pitched a scoreless seventh, and Brett Myers returned to action, recording the hold, by pitching a scoreless eighth. Myers looked amped up on adrenaline as he walked the first batter he faced and fell behind the second batter Carlos Lee 2-0, before getting him to fly out.

A Marlins win over the Nationals this evening puts the Fish just 6.5 games back on the Phillies. Meanwhile, the Braves lost to Cincinnati and remain 8.5 out in the division.

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  • Posts: 0 Chan Ho

    Please let me crose

  • Posts: 0 karen

    The bad thing is that the Phillies found a way to battle back and go into the 9th with a lead. The sickening thing is the same thing keeps happening over and over. Lidge may have a game or 2 that are amazing but he is awful and truly cannot be trusted to pitch in anything other than batting practice

  • Posts: 0 karen

    beardo bruntlett could be a better closer than lidge

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    In the words of Brad Lidge…I got nothing.

  • Posts: 0 Phils Phan

    No, no, guys. He already has figured out what is wrong. He’s just one step away from fixing it. He felt good–real good. As good as he did all season. Trust him.


  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    what do you do with lidge?
    Is he even on the playoff roster?
    Put him out there again and I may not watch anymore.
    I cant take it anymore. He has earned the right to not be put out there also. Its almost creul sending him out there now.
    Myers got out of it but he didnt look good in m opinion

    What a mess.

    Best team in baseball with absolutely no one to close a close game. It has to be chan ho or myers tomorrow

  • Posts: 0 Heathcliff Slocumb

    I’m coming back! Don’t worry!

  • Posts: 0 Greg V.

    Ed R.

    Did Lidge really say he got nothing? As in he was getting squeezed? Or as in he has not gas in the tank? Because if he feels he got squeezed, he seriously needs to have his head examined because he was making awful pitches.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    All time blown save leaders list
    Notice most are from the 70s and 80s back when theyd go in for 9 out saves or what not. But our man is giving it his all to take this record.

    1. Rollie Fingers 1976 – 14
    2. Bruce Sutter 1978 -14
    3. Bob Stanley 1983 -14
    4. Ron Davis 1984 -14
    5. John Hiller 1976 -13
    6. Rich Gossage 1983 -13
    7. Jeff Reardon 1986 -13
    8. Dan Plesac 1987 -13
    9. Dave Righetti 1987 -13

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    No Greg he didnt actually say that. I was referencing Lidge’s stuff. I didn’t really make that clear. My istake.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.


  • Posts: 0 Michael

    its brett myers time!

  • Posts: 0 kevin

    i love when brad lidge comes in the game hhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • Posts: 0 Graham

    Chan Ho is the only realistic answer at this stage.

    I cant take it…Do it Charlie.

  • Posts: 0 Matt M

    I know it’s not easy for Charlie to do this since he’s loyal to his players, but it’s a fault that has made this race closer than it needs to be by continuing to send Lidge out there. Now that Myers is back he should get a shot to close games. And I don’t even want to see Lidge in the 7th or 8th either right now because he’ll blow those leads too.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    If lidge is willing to go out in the 7th or 8th you have to let him if its a non save situation.
    Maybe he can work his way out of this.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    This was a tough one… prior to this game, I honestly thought that Lidge was back but it’s clear that he’s not going to be mentally strong enough to pitch for us in a hostile environment in the playoffs and the Phillies need to start preparing for plan B.

    To Lidge’s defense… if I was the manager, I would not have used him during this series. I just felt really uneasy about bringing him in on the road in Houston (even more than usual)… on one hand, he’s our guy but on the other… you know that the entire city was just licking their chops waiting to rattle him. They know better than any other city in baseball what Lidge is about. He has filthy stuff but he’s a major head case. They got on him good and he folded like a table napkin. This is a devastating blow to his confidence. No excuses… no way around it.

  • Posts: 0 geo

    “Anybody but lidge” is a better choice than “lidge”

  • Posts: 0 Brett Myers

    Charlie, if you let me close the games I will take time out from beating my wife to get the job done.

  • Posts: 0 HOLYMACKREL

    how ’bout loyalty to he rest of the players that bust their butt each game?

    is it fair to them?

    how ’bout that it might cost them home field advt in the playoffs?

    if they make it there…

  • Posts: 0 Brett Myers

    And I will also trim my eyebrows.

  • Posts: 0 Aaron

    The ending to this game depressed my friend and I. We had to have a shot of vodka out of depression.

  • Posts: 0 Radi0

    Pathetic. If Manuel puts Lidge out there one more time, the Phils don’t even deserve to make it into the playoffs. But mark my words, Lidge will still be closer, and I believe he’ll blow 3 more saves in September (if not more) and will blow at least 2 in the playoffs, if the Phils even get there at this point. Unbelievable.

  • Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova

    He will break that single game season record next week if we still throwing his ass out there

  • Posts: 0 mg52

    And again, the record for blown saves came when, as has been mentioned before, saves were much harder to get. Closers were expected to pitch two, three, perhaps four innings. We have gone through every reason in the book. Using Lidge in non-save situations, dispatching him on short rest, having command issues, lacking confidence, pitching on the road, not having good defense behind him. No matter how it shakes out, it’s time to move on. We all love this team and want the guys to do well.

  • Posts: 0 karen

    I think that Myers could be an option. Park could also help. Eyre could do it. I don’t think it is an option anymore to keep putting him in unless you don’t mind having a long offseason starting 10/5

  • Posts: 0 kevin

    phillies r gay!
    mets in ’10
    the phillies run is coming to its end.

  • Posts: 0 dodger fan

    Is that a joke? Who would come on a Phils blog and admit to being a Mets fan?

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Lidge is done for this season. We can’t go with him into the playoffs expecting him to shut down the opposition, simple as that.

    Brett Myers, we are ready to see you there in the ninth.

    And I’ve said this here before, the Marlins is the team to watch. I don’t think they’ll take the NL East from us, but they won’t fold this year either…

  • Posts: 0 Az Mike

    As I said yesterday it’s going to be a very short post- season
    for the Phillies. Forget “Last Year Lidge”! This year’s playoffs
    will be just like two years ago when the Rockies took them out early. 2009 Full Season Jeltz Award to be shared by Lidge & Cholie who continues to put him out there. Six more games with the Astro’s will probably cause Lidge to volunteer for retirement.

  • Posts: 0 jt

    what momentum the phillies were looking to gain was taken away by cholly boy lidge who he still see as the guy from 2008…he need to wake up and realize lidge was a one year wonder they come and go where eric gagne who converted what 80 straight saves now?no where he sucks just like lidge now come cholly deep down you know lidge sucks and the time to pull him is now…if and that still and if the phils make the playoffs do you really think think he can close out a playoff game when he can close out regular season games?no it’s time to shut him down and give myers a shot now.

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  • Posts: 0 jt

    george55 didn’t you post that same thing earlier?why don’t you go to mets blog moron.

  • Posts: 0 Keith E

    This is the ‘Lidge’ that Houston let go. The offense could have used a little pick up last night.
    I’m worried that there is no plan ‘B’ and that’s the reason they run Lidge out there to close these close games. At this point we need faith that RA and Charlie have a plan.
    @george55: thanks for the light hearted reading. We all need a laugh. If you are indeed a fan of another team it’s OK, but state your allegiance to that team so we all know you a little better.
    GO PHILS!!!

  • Posts: 0 Mike D.

    Since he blew that save against Pittsburgh, I have become convinced that Brad Lidge will cost this team a playoff berth. The thing with Lidge is that Charlie sticks with his guys and that’s one of the reasons they play hard for him.

    It all kind of started with that run he gave up to Pujols all the way back in May. Then came the San Diego series…the two in LA…the two in Yankee Stadium.

    Jason Bintliff, or anyone from Phillies Nation who writes “a look ahead,” I want NO MENTION of Magic Numbers. It isn’t clinched yet, it won’t be until we’re up 4 with 3 to play. That’s just asking for trouble.

  • Posts: 0 Mike D.

    I hope to God that Charlie blows up on our players if they manage to lose this series. That always seems to help. But I think they think they’ve won it.

    7 games left against Florida. We need 5 of those games. And to win every series, at least 2 games to 1. They’re hot, they’ve won four straight, and they have four games against the Reds while we play at Washington and 3 in Atlanta. Toss in the two makeup games due to rainout, when Jamie will probably start, and we could be in trouble if we don’t take 5 of 7 from Florida, and 2 of 3 every other series.

  • [...] Phillies Nation had these comments on the game: For the most part, Astros starter Roy Oswalt had the Phillies line-up tied in knots. Oswalt struck out eight in 6.1 innings before finishing the contest early with tightness in his lower back. Oswalt had held the Phillies off of the board to that point, but left the game responsible for two runners on in the seventh inning which both scored. [...]

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    MLB is trashing Lidge – is it official enough to convince Chahlie that there’s nothing to depend on?
    10 blown saves, 0-7 with an ERA over 7, absolutely the worst in baseball.
    The Phils are heading to the post season, the offense will pick up and the Phils will coast to the Division title. That should not be our concern, the rest of our division stinks! Playing the tough teams that make the post season, they all have 2 things to depend on: A bench (some better than others) and a Closer that is somewhat reliable. Without the closer last year, we would not have our spot in history. Without some of the magic coming off the bench (remember Dobbs? Jenkins? remember when Stairs had a hit last??) won the Phils some games.
    For Brad, even for his saves, the ball is being hit hard! How can Lidge be considered from this point on as the man to shut the door??

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  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    Whew- That was ugleeeee.

    Against the bottom of the order no less.

    After the first batter, he didn’t throw one slider within 2 feet of the strike zone. Nobody is chasing that thing this year.His fastabll is bating practice, because he can’t locate it.
    Myers was shakey as well-couldn’t get his curve over and got TAGGED twice, but luckily the balls were caught.

    And the (highly overated )offense was once again pathetic.
    The Astros gave Feliz a gift hit by stupidly playing the IF in and of course Ruiz went on to GIDP to kill that rally.

    IF the SP continues to crumble( Lee ..Happ) , we could be seeing 1964 again.

  • Posts: 0 mick

    Charlie sticks with his boys, but he may get a call from upstairs with a mandate. I question whether Myers is ready for the everyday closer role , but a Park/Meyers/Eyre trio would be much better than a struggling Lidge.His mechanics are all over the place reducing his control-you can not pitch in the bigs constantly with a 3-1 count—Romero is an option once he comes back,but he may not have time to dial it up

  • Posts: 0 Morris Buttermaker

    Just ignore him, he will go away.

    While it is pile on Lidge day today. It was not a 1 inning game. The hitting with RISP and getting guys home from third really needs to improve. Last night the Phillies should have had 2-3 run lead in the 9th. The offense needs to realize they need a 4 run lead going into the 9th to prevent Cholly from putting Lidge in.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    George… just leave. You’re about as senseless as a NY native choosing the Mets when they have the option of rooting for the Yankees.

    I’ve supported the “get Lidge better” crusade for a while but the caveat has always been that they were doing what was best for the postseason. Fast forward to September; we can’t afford to let him try to work things out in the playoffs. If he can’t figure it out by now, we need to find out who can be our closer in the playoffs. My prediction: Pedro Martinez. I think that you have to give him a few chances now to see if he can do it. He’s got the mentality and the stuff to do it… but I would love to see him give it a go down the stretch. If that means giving Moyer a start and working Pedro out of the pen, so be it. You have to figure out who is going to close games in the playoffs.

  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    So you want a guy who has neve been a reliever to close?

    A guy who has given up a leadoff dinger in 3 of his 5 ( or 4?) starts to close?

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    I think a lot of us felt the same way Chuck – over with though, this is past ridiculous. I am not sure about Pedro out of the pen, his last outing was remarkable. And I really don’t see why we closing by committee is such a bad idea at this point. Between Eyre, Walker, Myers perhaps Mamie and even Lidge for an out this could work out. The way it stands now? We probably will not make it past round 1 of the Post Season.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Hes not going to demote Lidge from that role unless he blows our season in the postseason. That is the only way he will even consider it. Just forget about all of those other delusions. Youd better just hope that LIdge doesn’t blow any more saves, especially in the postseason because its VERY clear that we are going to live or die with Brad Lidge in the closer spot at this point of the season.

  • Posts: 0 Matt Kwasiborski

    Charlie and Amaro better make a decision fast. If they are going to pull the plug on Lidge do it now so the replacement option has a good month of work before the playoffs begin. And yes, we will make the playoffs- the Fish won’t catch us.

    Charlie talks about Lidge is his guy but he had the guts to put Moyer in the BP a year after he lead a Championship team in wins. He can do the same to Lidge. Honestly, I think Myers is the only one with the mental makeup to handle closing. Park reminds me of Madson- great set up men but no stomach for the 9th.

  • Posts: 0 mg52

    If Charlie is going to use blown saves in the postseason as justification for removing Lidge, then he won’t deserve to be manager.

  • Posts: 0 mg52

    That is to say, he can’t risk the playoffs on the hunch that Lidge will suddenly turn it around.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Unless Lidge does a 180 real fast, he is not going to be the closer. Myers was put in the 8th inning role to light a fire under Lidge’s ass and it didn’t work. Even if Manuel wants to “stick with his guy”, he can’t because now there is an alternative. My bet is that Myers has one or two non-save appearances and they throw him out there to close out a game. Let’s hope he is the answer.

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