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> <channel><title>Comments on: Gameday: Phillies (77-55) At Astros (64-70)</title> <atom:link href="http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/</link> <description>Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:53 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Philly in NYC</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135245</link> <dc:creator>Philly in NYC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135245</guid> <description>I&#039;ve been out of Philly for 9 years - transplanted to NYC.  Been reading this board for 3 months now and I&#039;m hooked - quality material and well thought out blogger comments.  I love the fervant Philly spirit, but at the same time I get irritated when I see how quickly fans jump ship on a team, reading some posts in this room.  This team sucks - no post season.  Awesome team - NLCS here we come.  No no wait, yeah dude we suck again, no shot at playoffs at all, nope.  I suppose it&#039;s just people letting out their frustrtions, which I appreciate - but enough of the doomsday talk.  At times the opinions are as inconsistent as Brad Lidge.Now - let&#039;s talk about Lidge for a sec.  Is he a BUM?  Total loser?  Worthless?  Ehhh, OK this year yeah he looks like he&#039;s been donkey punched while getting dirty sanchezed, but the guy isn&#039;t a *bum*.  We, Philadelphians, have a ring and much of that is from Lidge himself.  As far as THIS year is concerend, I&#039;m on the band-Lidge-bandwagon.  This is remarkably frustrating, watching Lidge pitch so erratically.  I hate having to feel aggravated knowing he&#039;s coming out to &quot;close&quot; a game.    25% of the time he closes the door on his own team.  Lidge now has 10 blown saves, 7 which were losses (with 25 + games remaining).  Extrapolate that to a playoff series - in a 5 game series the Phillies will lose one full game, or put the opposing team in a winning position, due to Lidge.  In a 7 game series it&#039;s 2 lost games.  Bear in mind the Phillies will most likely lose a game or two where there are no save opportunities.  Also consider his performance in the post season with the Astros - there is historical precedence to back these numbers up.  So what are we left with?  CHP is out (but man is he awesome in nearly every first inning he&#039;s in).  Cholly would never do it, as he hasn&#039;t used Ho as a closer yet, and we ALL know how flexible Cholly is to new ideas.  Madsen?  Punch me in the face - no Madsen.  What about Meyers?  He&#039;s been nearly lights out in his recent appearances in AAA, and showed compusure tonight with a runner on (something Lidge hasn&#039;t done all effing season).  Cholly sticks with his horses - it&#039;s just his way - but the Lidge ordeal comes down to simple math.  Hopefully the front office will really think this one through and consider Meyers as the closer.  But it has to be sooner than later - Meyers needs to be in playoff shape.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been out of Philly for 9 years &#8211; transplanted to NYC.  Been reading this board for 3 months now and I&#8217;m hooked &#8211; quality material and well thought out blogger comments.  I love the fervant Philly spirit, but at the same time I get irritated when I see how quickly fans jump ship on a team, reading some posts in this room.  This team sucks &#8211; no post season.  Awesome team &#8211; NLCS here we come.  No no wait, yeah dude we suck again, no shot at playoffs at all, nope.  I suppose it&#8217;s just people letting out their frustrtions, which I appreciate &#8211; but enough of the doomsday talk.  At times the opinions are as inconsistent as Brad Lidge.</p><p>Now &#8211; let&#8217;s talk about Lidge for a sec.  Is he a BUM?  Total loser?  Worthless?  Ehhh, OK this year yeah he looks like he&#8217;s been donkey punched while getting dirty sanchezed, but the guy isn&#8217;t a *bum*.  We, Philadelphians, have a ring and much of that is from Lidge himself.  As far as THIS year is concerend, I&#8217;m on the band-Lidge-bandwagon.  This is remarkably frustrating, watching Lidge pitch so erratically.  I hate having to feel aggravated knowing he&#8217;s coming out to &#8220;close&#8221; a game.    25% of the time he closes the door on his own team.  Lidge now has 10 blown saves, 7 which were losses (with 25 + games remaining).  Extrapolate that to a playoff series &#8211; in a 5 game series the Phillies will lose one full game, or put the opposing team in a winning position, due to Lidge.  In a 7 game series it&#8217;s 2 lost games.  Bear in mind the Phillies will most likely lose a game or two where there are no save opportunities.  Also consider his performance in the post season with the Astros &#8211; there is historical precedence to back these numbers up.  So what are we left with?  CHP is out (but man is he awesome in nearly every first inning he&#8217;s in).  Cholly would never do it, as he hasn&#8217;t used Ho as a closer yet, and we ALL know how flexible Cholly is to new ideas.  Madsen?  Punch me in the face &#8211; no Madsen.  What about Meyers?  He&#8217;s been nearly lights out in his recent appearances in AAA, and showed compusure tonight with a runner on (something Lidge hasn&#8217;t done all effing season).  Cholly sticks with his horses &#8211; it&#8217;s just his way &#8211; but the Lidge ordeal comes down to simple math.  Hopefully the front office will really think this one through and consider Meyers as the closer.  But it has to be sooner than later &#8211; Meyers needs to be in playoff shape.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: j reed</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135239</link> <dc:creator>j reed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135239</guid> <description>see and people thought I was crazy to be concerned about Tim&quot;&#039;another sinkerballer that baffles our bats&quot; Hudson returning to the Braves rotation</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see and people thought I was crazy to be concerned about Tim&#8221;&#8216;another sinkerballer that baffles our bats&#8221; Hudson returning to the Braves rotation</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rtbamam</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135233</link> <dc:creator>rtbamam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:59:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135233</guid> <description>the phils will blow the division if they continue to rely on lidge</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the phils will blow the division if they continue to rely on lidge</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HOLYMACKREL</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135232</link> <dc:creator>HOLYMACKREL</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:57:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135232</guid> <description>http://www.prestonandsteve.com/picview.php?id=16116</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135230</guid> <description>Greg V. - RAJ can&#039;t do anything now but bench him.  If he wanted to address this issue eariler before the trade deadline he sat on his hands too long...but even then, apparently there is no more money available (i find this hard to believe, but at best we, without insider knowledge, are ultimately speculating.) Also, other contending teams via the waiver process have first dibs over the defending champs (i think...at any rate there&#039;s enough need from teams before us that a quality closer would probably be taken before we could probably say the guy&#039;s name)  Even if we traded for a closer, like Hoffman I am uncertain whether he can be added to the post-season roster unless someone is legitamitely injured.  As to what passes for &quot;injury&quot; is another issue, but I&#039;m sure we could side-step that if necessary.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg V. &#8211; RAJ can&#8217;t do anything now but bench him.  If he wanted to address this issue eariler before the trade deadline he sat on his hands too long&#8230;but even then, apparently there is no more money available (i find this hard to believe, but at best we, without insider knowledge, are ultimately speculating.) Also, other contending teams via the waiver process have first dibs over the defending champs (i think&#8230;at any rate there&#8217;s enough need from teams before us that a quality closer would probably be taken before we could probably say the guy&#8217;s name)  Even if we traded for a closer, like Hoffman I am uncertain whether he can be added to the post-season roster unless someone is legitamitely injured.  As to what passes for &#8220;injury&#8221; is another issue, but I&#8217;m sure we could side-step that if necessary.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Morris Buttermaker</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135226</link> <dc:creator>Morris Buttermaker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:52:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135226</guid> <description>Yep, Cholie is like Rube Baker.  He gets all excited when he makes the rooster.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Cholie is like Rube Baker.  He gets all excited when he makes the rooster.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rtbamam</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135225</link> <dc:creator>rtbamam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:52:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135225</guid> <description>all the people out of work and you have a dumb a.... like amaro and manuel who continue to believe in lidge</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the people out of work and you have a dumb a&#8230;. like amaro and manuel who continue to believe in lidge</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: karen</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-7/#comment-135224</link> <dc:creator>karen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:51:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135224</guid> <description>I don&#039;t know about the true feelings of the Phillies.  The look on Werth&#039;s face and Ruiz&#039;s face after a few of these blown saves says it all.....it is pathetic.  They bust their butts for 9 innings to have some loser lose the game.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the true feelings of the Phillies.  The look on Werth&#8217;s face and Ruiz&#8217;s face after a few of these blown saves says it all&#8230;..it is pathetic.  They bust their butts for 9 innings to have some loser lose the game.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: a13</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135223</link> <dc:creator>a13</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:50:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135223</guid> <description>Good job Lidge.
you are done.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Lidge.<br
/> you are done.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ed R.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135222</link> <dc:creator>Ed R.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135222</guid> <description>So then is Charlie like Rube Baker?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then is Charlie like Rube Baker?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rtbamam</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135221</link> <dc:creator>rtbamam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135221</guid> <description>hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
wake the hell up amaro step in be a man a get lidge out of there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo<br
/> wake the hell up amaro step in be a man a get lidge out of there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: george</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135218</link> <dc:creator>george</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:43:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135218</guid> <description>how does dumb cholly still have a job when he continues to allow this to happen no other manager in any baseball would still have lidge out there the guys as bad as they come right now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how does dumb cholly still have a job when he continues to allow this to happen no other manager in any baseball would still have lidge out there the guys as bad as they come right now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Morris Buttermaker</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135217</link> <dc:creator>Morris Buttermaker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:42:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135217</guid> <description>Exactly Ed, if you want to compare Ricky Vaughn to anyone, Cole Hamels is the leading candidate.  Jimmy Rollins is Willie Mays Hayes.  A speedy leadoff guy who tries to hit for power.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Ed, if you want to compare Ricky Vaughn to anyone, Cole Hamels is the leading candidate.  Jimmy Rollins is Willie Mays Hayes.  A speedy leadoff guy who tries to hit for power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Greg V.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135216</link> <dc:creator>Greg V.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:41:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135216</guid> <description>Major League 2 references at that!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major League 2 references at that!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ed R.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135214</link> <dc:creator>Ed R.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135214</guid> <description>Sounds like what f&#039;ed Ricky Vaughn is what f&#039;ed Cole Hamels.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like what f&#8217;ed Ricky Vaughn is what f&#8217;ed Cole Hamels.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ed R.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135212</link> <dc:creator>Ed R.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:39:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135212</guid> <description>Somehow the Rox will have some guy we have never heard of fill in and go perfect in save opps. Just because the universe works that way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow the Rox will have some guy we have never heard of fill in and go perfect in save opps. Just because the universe works that way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Morris Buttermaker</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135211</link> <dc:creator>Morris Buttermaker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135211</guid> <description>There are a lot of things I will stand for.  Mixing up Major League references is not one of them.  Pedro Cerrano had no marbles.  Tanaka, who came over in the Parkman trade, was the one who told him he had no marbles.  Rick Vaughn got all caught up in the commercialism of the game and forgot what it was all about.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of things I will stand for.  Mixing up Major League references is not one of them.  Pedro Cerrano had no marbles.  Tanaka, who came over in the Parkman trade, was the one who told him he had no marbles.  Rick Vaughn got all caught up in the commercialism of the game and forgot what it was all about.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ed R.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135210</link> <dc:creator>Ed R.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:37:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135210</guid> <description>Actually I think what helped Ricky Vaughn get his stuff back was seeing his old girlfriend. Maybe Lidge needs to find an old girlfriend, rekindle the flame and then save our season. Lidge&#039;s wife will understand. He is doing it for us. That&#039;s not cheating.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I think what helped Ricky Vaughn get his stuff back was seeing his old girlfriend. Maybe Lidge needs to find an old girlfriend, rekindle the flame and then save our season. Lidge&#8217;s wife will understand. He is doing it for us. That&#8217;s not cheating.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: j reed</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135209</link> <dc:creator>j reed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135209</guid> <description>Ed R. - maybe what your college team did with dual closers would work...a Myers/Lidge but instead of lefty/righty...it could be 1 -2 run stituations for myers and 3-4 for Lidge...nah...how bout give the reigns to lidge but have myers in case runners get on.  Don&#039;t know  but i actually thought about the  closer duo in general and concluded that as other relievers would have to fill-in for a resting closer anyway, why not? When a closer falls apart it really can hamstring a team vying for the post season.  I am interested in seeing what the Rox do now that Huston Street will miss some time...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed R. &#8211; maybe what your college team did with dual closers would work&#8230;a Myers/Lidge but instead of lefty/righty&#8230;it could be 1 -2 run stituations for myers and 3-4 for Lidge&#8230;nah&#8230;how bout give the reigns to lidge but have myers in case runners get on.  Don&#8217;t know  but i actually thought about the  closer duo in general and concluded that as other relievers would have to fill-in for a resting closer anyway, why not? When a closer falls apart it really can hamstring a team vying for the post season.  I am interested in seeing what the Rox do now that Huston Street will miss some time&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Greg V.</title><link>http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/09/gameday-phillies-77-55-at-astros-64-70/comment-page-6/#comment-135208</link> <dc:creator>Greg V.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:35:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=8337#comment-135208</guid> <description>Just looked up what the major league record is for blown saves which is 14.  Anyone want to bet Lidge breaks it?  I seriously can&#039;t take it anymore.  It&#039;s time for a change and Amaro needs to intervene.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looked up what the major league record is for blown saves which is 14.  Anyone want to bet Lidge breaks it?  I seriously can&#8217;t take it anymore.  It&#8217;s time for a change and Amaro needs to intervene.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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