Phils Fall to Brewers

Posted by Jason Bintliff, Fri, September 25, 2009 11:35 PM | Comments: 43

In a game that was ripe for the taking, the Phillies fell in ugly fashion to the Brewers, 8-4.

Cliff Lee, who started his career in pinstripes 5-0, with a ridiculous three earned runs in those starts, got rattled early, surrendering four first inning runs. After Lee’s torrid start with the Phils, he has been inconsistent, losing two while watching his ERA with the Phillies balloon two over four. In tonight’s contest, Lee allowed seven runs, all earned. He has now allowed four or more runs, four times in his last six starts. An alarming trend for the Phillies as they now head toward the final week of the season with their pitching staff less than intact.

Overall Lee finished giving up nine hits, including two long balls in six innings pitched. For the season, Lee is now 14-12 with a 3.19 ERA. While it may not be time yet to panic, questions can certainly be raised about which Cliff Lee will show up to the ballpark that particular evening. Not good news for a  starting rotation that has injury concerns in its back end.

The offense for the Phillies couldn’t quite pull it together despite scoring four runs in the game. The Phillies couldn’t muster a single base-runner off of Brewers starter Manny Parra until the fourth inning when Jimmy Rollins reached base on a Milwaukee error. After a Shane Victorino walk and a Chase Utley ground-out, Ryan Howard single in two, cutting the four run Brewers lead in half.

The Brewers came back out in the bottom half of the fifth with three runs courtesy of a Prince Fielder bomb. With the three run shot, Fielder again eclipsed Howard for the R.B.I. lead in the National League.

The five run lead was just too much for the Phillies to overcome.

With a Braves win and a Marlins loss, The Braves move to within six games of the Phillies with just nine games left to play. The Marlins elimination number now falls to two.

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  • Posts: 0 jt

    marlins elimination numbers actually at 2…that what mlb.com says.

  • Posts: 50 Jason Bintliff

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    thanks. I checked the standings before they were updated.

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    jason – you always seem to have to do write up the losses…i have to avoid sport center and mlb.network’s quick pitch…you should get a Purple Heart

  • Posts: 0 jt

    lets get a win tomorrow and hope them muts can beat the marlins again and put a E next to the marlins in the standings…as for that braves team,will they ever lose again lol?it seems like their next gonna lose but hopefully the blind squirl finds a nut once and a while and the nats can get a couple against them because thats who they play the rest of the season against with the exception of the 3 game series against marlins.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Has anyone watched Wired for Baseball on MLB? They show Orlando Hudson talking during a game, batting practice, spring training. He wounds exactly like the “Black” guy living with Larry on Curb Your Enthusiasm. He sounds hilarious. They should have a stand up show with some of these guys.

  • Posts: 0 george55

    there goes lidge again giving up another run. why was lee left in so long and pulled only after 7 runs? manuel, you can’t win games like that. after 4 runs a pitcher should be pulled or you will not give your team any chance of coming back. how can you overcome such a deficit? what a lousy manager. does anyone have a manuel troll doll and some pins? every time he makes a bad move, the pain comes.

  • Posts: 0 marty

    shoulda got Halladay

  • Posts: 0 mikeB

    I have to go along with george55 in regards to why Manuel left Lee in to give up all those runs. The Phils are trying to clinch the division and clinching it early enough can give some of the regulars rest which might be beneficial in the post season. Apparently Manuel must feel like this team can come back from any deficit every time that they fall behind. Must be a permanent way of thinking for him. Being set in his ways and thinking might be detrimental to this team at this critical time. No team fights their way back in every game.

  • Posts: 0 george

    cliff is still a good pitcher,he just gotta prove he can shut down good lineups like the brewers and astros…the teams he shut down lineups aren’t anygood like the giants,d-backs,mets…halladay has proven he can shut down good lineups (yankees,red sox),but toronto was asking way too much for him and thats why he’s still with em.

  • Posts: 0 george

    if cholly takes out cliff whos gonna pitch?kendrick pitching tomorrow so he couldn’t go and moyer prolly not avaliable to pitch yet and the rest of the pen isn’t any good as we already know…i agree cliff was left in too long but cholly didn’t really have any other choice.

  • Posts: 0 mikeB

    george; good point. Manuel pretty much had nobody available for long relief as Moyer just pitched on Tuesday in that sauna that is Land Shark Stadium in Miami. I thought that the Phils had brought up Andrew Carpenter and that he was available but I seen that he is not on the active roster.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Who do you propose pitching in the 1st after Lee gives up 4 runs? You don’t pull your starter that early unless he is injured or if it a must win game. This is baseball, not football. It is a long season and a long game and they will have bumps along the season and the game. You don’t bench players so quickly in baseball.

  • Posts: 0 Jason Bintliff

    Thanks for the sympathy. I think I have done about 10 game wrap-ups and have only covered two wins. I may have bad ju-ju, I don’t know. Originally my opening line of this post was (expletive deleted), I erased it because I thought it may be a bit unprofessional.

  • Posts: 0 Joe

    As much as last night’s game disappointed, it does leave open the possibility of the Phils clinching postseason in front of a home crowd on Monday or later.

    (I’m going to be there on Tuesday, but I’m not rooting for the Phils to lose any more games.)

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    Phils win, Braves loose, Marlins win. Marlin’s number down to 1. Braves cut in half to 2. It’s going to be beautiful…. Book it!

  • Posts: 0 cas

    I wish this team could wrap up a race early just once. In the 70′s, when they had their really great teams, they were still battling the Expos or Pirates (wow–how things have changed) till the very last weekend of the season. Even in ’93, when they had their incredible first half, they were hanging on by their fingernails trying to clinch it late in the season. Is this just a Philly thing or is it common to all teams trying to clinch? Do they get tight and stop playing their best or what? By the way, I don’t think Happ will be free to go to the bullpen and be the closer…it looks like we’ll need him in the rotation. Can we use Kendrick in the rotation, or did he come up after September 1st?

  • Posts: 0 George

    Lee loses, so now the “we should have gotten Halladay” talk starts. Typical.

    Lee is 7-3 since joining the Phils. I’ll take a .700 winning percentage any time.

    I’ll also point out that his last start was cut short, which may have had something to do with last night’s lack of command on a couple of pitches. Many starters need a steady routine.

    Some people on this site seem to think players should all be perfect, or be replaced. They seem to think management can just go out and acquire anybody they want without giving up players, money, or prospects. It’s a stupid and selfish outlook, and I hope no one equates me with such “fans.”

    Let’s root for what we have now, and hope they remain on track. The Phils are still way ahead and have basically good players. Let’s pull for them, instead of whining so much when they lose a game or two. They may not win it all this year, but that’s hard for any team to do. The greatest teams in history don’t win all the time.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Take Lee out in the first inning? Idiotic. I have to agree with joedad with that one. I am surprised that there isnt an article on here about Armaro stepping in to say Lidge is no longer the closer. I really have to say that its sad that the GM had to step in to tell the media that Lidge was not the closer anymore, and not Manuel. Has Manuel lost the confidence of Amaro that he had to step in? And yet again Lidge gives up a run. ERA at 7.51.

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    I agree w/joedad also. Happ had extra time in between starts and he got tried by the 4/5th inn… I am still a bit concerned with this guy though. The Nats had very few guys in their lineup that had faced him, and they hit him hard in D.C. Same with the Astros. Someone pointed out pregame that several hitters in the Brew Crew’s lineup had not faced Lee either. And he has no post season exp whatsoever. I think he gets too jacked before his starts. He has a football approach to his preparations. He comes out throwing way too many strikes… Hittable strikes that is… Remember when Brian Dawkinks admitted that he gets so wound up during pregame that sometimes he’s worn out before kickoff. Calm down Lee… It’s a marathon not a sprint…

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Brian, I think Amaro did it rather than Manuel because it can make him look to be the “bad guy” rather than Manuel. Cholly likes to support his players and just about never talks bad about them in public.

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    If Lidge is left off the post season roster I think the rest of the team may relax a little. I don’t like the closer by comm garbage and the Bp feels the same. But everything’s Lidge this or Lidge that…. If he’s on the ps roster it’ll just ruin the mood. Because he would have to pitch. Other wise why would you waist a roster spot. He can’t pitch in other capacity either…. If Lidge makes the ps roster and he repeats his performance from last year, you’ll never hear me B about him again. But that’s just stupid talk… If he blows saves in the ps, let alone the WS all the progress that this franchise made will be thrown out the window.

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Out of all our starters that have pitched recently, Happ looks the best… and that’s the one we wanna send to the pen??

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    I like Happ as a starter too… His road era is the best in the majors. I think we’re stuck w/Lidge

  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    I agree with that, joedad. You could tell by the look on Charlie’s face after Lidge’s more recent BS’s that he was extremely disappointed, and even angry at him, but Charlie cares too much about his players to call them out in the media. Whenever asked “who’s your closer?”, I always expected him to say Lidge, he’s a manager who will NEVER throw any of his guys under the bus, they know that, and respect him for it. Ruben took on the role of “bad guy” to protect the rapport between manager and players.

  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    I have no confidence in Lee as a top of the rotation guy.

    Since his hot start, he has been Eatonian.

    Too many innings maybe? Who knows-but he ssems to leave way too many pitches in the hitting zone.

  • Posts: 0 Last Living Lucky Leaflet

    Let’s see a win tonight. The Phils need to learn a little more about small ball to be more consistent. Howard is performing like an MVP candidate. The rest of the team needs to get in sync. As for the pitching, it worries the crap out of me for the playoffs, especially the bullpen. Cross your fingers.

  • Posts: 0 karen

    I would have left Lee in. I think that was just destined to be a loss and our bullpen is empty enough that there werent many who could go in…especially no one to go a few innings.

  • Posts: 0 LH

    Lee stunk up the place but 10 wins and five loses in their last fifteen games is a good record. Jason, I wouldn’t bother listing Marlins & Braves numbers in your article. The division win is a slam dunk for the fighting Phils.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    I feel like a sucker.George55 is a notorious troll who is obsessed with Lidge and Manuel and I took the troll bait. I apologize for feeding the troll.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    joedad I would classify him as a “notorious” IDIOT moreso then troll.

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    Hold your head up joe… ‘Dem trolls are mighty sneaky…

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    Like that crackhead on Dave Chapl.. They’ll do anything for a fix…

  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    I want the Phillies to win it all. I dont think they will. No ace, closer, bench, bullpen, hitting goes into funks. werth is back to werthless again. hanson pitching against the nats. thats a win. lead will be 5 after today. i would like to see what happen if it gets to be three heading into the marlins series. we get knocked out. charlie is fired. not all bad. get a manager to manage the team right. big

  • Posts: 0 PhreeholdDave

    That Sunday win against the Braves is pretty large now. Kendrick was very sharp in his last two outings so I have a good feeling about tonight’s game. I don’t see why everyone gets so pessimistic. Ryan Howard has had some real good numbers lately. The Phillies are 4-4 on the current road trip against 3 very competitive teams.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    We have to win 4. flat out. I highly doubt the Braves will lose any seeing how they are facing the Nats for most of the game, and fish for 3. We can hope the Fish beat them at least once.

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    Damn… I’m 0-1. I’ll take 1-1 from the last two. Phils win and an L by the Fish sticks….

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Brian – your reasoning only make sense if the Phillies were done playing…unless your referring to the wild card.

  • Posts: 0 Repeat!

    Or not…. It’s 6-4….

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    J reed how does it only make sense for Wild Card? Seeing how un believeably easy the Braves schedule is, I really dont see them losing a game. The magic number is 4. If they dont lose, the Phillies must win 4. Do I think they will, yes, but the point is, they need to win 4, forget about combing any of our wins with a braves loss.

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  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Brian – brian that was a bit of sarcasm about the Wild Card….Ultimately, making the post season is more a matter of pride….were not going to the dance. And on the off chance we do we’ll be crushed. The post season is a nice prize but it doesn’t obivate the fact that the mentality of the organization hasn’t changed. To me that was the most important measure of the season and though the Cliff Lee signing showed a new light, flushing away a chance to win it all again because of the BP is just so “red headed step child” to me.

  • Posts: 0 Jim

    Cliff Lee might choke in the playoffs against good teams. Halladay should have been our acquisition at the deadline.

  • Posts: 0 j reed

    Jim – I was Halladay or bust, but getting Francisco was an added benefit and though I believe prospects have become overvalued, it was nice too keep guys like Taylor. Still even if he pitched complete games in the post season Halladay could do little more than watch as the team’s chance for post season glory fade when the bull pen relinquishes the lead in the other games.

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