NLCS Gameday: Phillies at Dodgers, Game 2

Posted by Pat Gallen, Fri, October 16, 2009 02:40 PM | Comments: 332
Gameday 2009, Posts

Philadelphia Phillies (1-0) at Los Angeles Dodgers (0-1)

Pedro Martinez, RHP  vs. Vicente Padilla, RHPhttp://jenandavid.com/dodgers.jpg

Time: 4:07 p.m at Dodger Stadium
Weather: Sunny, 85
Twitter: Phillies Nation

A couple of old horses face off today in L.A.  Just about 14 hours after the conclusion of Game 1, the Phillies and Dodgers will do battle once again with Pedro Martinez taking the hill against ex-Phil Vicente Padilla.

Pedro has not pitched since September 30 against Houston, so lets hope there isn’t too much rust.  He has tossed only seven innings since throwing 130 pitches against the New York Mets back on September 13.  There is some pressure on Martinez to come out of the gate quickly, without incident, because he has a penchant for giving up early runs.  Opponents hit three home runs in nine first-innings against Pedro this season with the Phillies.  He’s given up a total of six runs in those nine starts. After that, he normally calms down, as he has proven with his four runs allowed from the fourth to the sixth innings of his starts.

Vicente Padilla is a surprising start in Game 2 for the Dodgers. The guess here is that Joe Torre did not want Padilla pitching in Philly on a cold night with hostile fans berating him. Smart move.  Padilla has been nothing short of brilliant since being picked up, going 4-0 through seven starts. However, he struggles mightily in the middle innings, something the Phillies offense will surely pick up on.  The Phillies have scored 18 runs between the fourth and sixth innings in five playoff games in ’09.  Look for the trend to continue, although a few early on couldn’t hurt either.

The Good: Brad Lidge coming in and nailing it down for yet another save.  Is he back to his old ways?  Also, Ryan Howard now has 8 RBI in five games this postseason.  Look out, Reggie Jackson.

Tonight’s Lineup: Rollins (SS), Victorino (CF), Utley (2B), Howard (1B), Werth (RF), Ibanez (LF), Feliz (3B), Ruiz (C), Hamels (P).

KenzingerYour Gameday Beer – Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA
While enjoying this afternoon game, grab some delicious Dogfish 120. It’ll make you hop, for sure.  It is continuously hopped with high-alpha American hops, then dry-hopped daily in the fermenter for a month & aged for another month on whole-leaf hops. The 20% ABV make this more like jungle juice than beer, but it should give you a nice dayload as the Phils look to take Game 2.  Enjoy with some charred burgers and beans, but prepare for a rough Saturday morning. Hop to it. – By Pat


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  • Posts: 0 Terri

    What a difficult lost. Should have won the game if Charlie stayed with Pedro or Chase made that play.

  • Posts: 0 fitz

    God damn it. Goddamn you Utley.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    2 games in a row
    2. you see 8 men out? The guys put a star by suspicious plays.
    I see 2 and there was otehr weird plays and iffy thorws yesterday

    GD i am so pissed

  • Posts: 0 nk


    oh yeah..no reason..pitching great, didnt give up a walk, two hits, low pitch count, not tired..but charlie takes him out..yup, makes sense

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Yeah, LA cant play in the cold, we do know that from last year. We WILL win this series in 5 games. In every series, the Phillies have a tanker game like this. Its ok. Yes, it was BS that LA won this game. Its just maddening like Game 2 against Colorado was…BUT the Phillies will win the next three games and win this series because DESPITE the flaws they have, they ARE a better team.

  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Brian, now you’re putting words in my mouth, when did I say to get rid of Utley (pot calling kettle black)?

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    The error last night my friend says to me he hasnt done that 1 time all year.
    now this. you score 1 run though truly pathetic.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    OK, tough loss but the series is tied 1-1. Next 3 are in Philly. Phils are in the driver’s seat.

  • Posts: 0 mets88

    yea dont talk about injuries lol when your leadoff man and shorstop your cleanup hitter 2 starters center fielder all star all star setup man miss basically the whole year. yea forget about the injuries you dont deserve to call yourself a fan if you no that little about baseball to think that u dumb ass

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    Just so we are clear, the Dodgers didn’t beat us, we beat us. We will get them on Sunday behind Clifton Phiefer Lee.

  • Posts: 0 metsfan88

    what do you want me to do? I never get laid so I may as well come in here. By the way, did you guys see me here yesterday when the phillies were winning? Or today when the phillies were winning? NO of course not, i was hiding under my rock licking the dirt and eating the worms

  • Posts: 0 Troutman

    Charlie for the Jeltz, no doubt. He totally shit the bed on this game. This team does not look good at all but ultimately, Charlie blew this one. Did I actually just see him laughing in the dugout with Werth (less) as the Phils were down to their last out? I couldn’t have seen that, could I? What a joke. This is the type of loss that causes teams to lose series.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Well first and foremost, Charlie should have left Pedro in there, Chase may never have had to make that throw, 2nd, Chase should have made that throw. Since Chase was put in that situation, he can blame only himself for that throw.

  • Posts: 0 ray

    awww he’s crying about injuries. It shows how much your team is a bunch of p*ssies…by the way it’s “know” not no. You can’t call someone a dumbass if you don’t know the difference.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    “yea forget about the injuries you dont deserve to call yourself a fan if you no that little about baseball to think that u dumb ass” Ya dumbass, even when some of those “awesome players” came back, the Mets continued to lose! See Phillies fans are blaming poor play instead of blaming injuries. Phillies have a hodge podge bullpen overall BECAUSE of injury, and yet WE are blaming POOR PLAY. If you are a REAL baseball fan instead of an ignorant moron you would realize Injuries happen. DUH.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    this is very very bad
    this is the kind of game that makes teams implode.
    Still in complete shock this si all on utley 100% not the old man

  • Posts: 0 BluBlood

    Just wanted to come by and thank you guys for wasting a beautiful gem by Pedro. Vincente Padilla and crew just dealt a 1 to “the most powerful lineup in baseball”. If you want to blame anyone BTW, blame Chuck Manuel for pulling Pedro…we couldn’t touch him all day. We got us a series now folks!

  • Posts: 0 Matt M

    Brian of CO-Leaving Pedro in wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game. Park did his job and Utley lost the game. And not to bitch but these announcers are pathetic. Someone let me know when they get the Dodgers’ d***s out of thier mouths.

  • Posts: 0 nk

    if chase made that play, 2 outs runner on 3rd and i almost guarantee we would have gotten out of that inning with the lead still

    the double play that chase got today was 10x EASIER than the other one last night..a little ridiculous

  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    I am REALLY curious to hear what kind of explanation Chase gives.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    He bet the dodgers?

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Ed R, just like yesterday, the Dodgers didnt keep themselves in the game, the Phillies kept them in the game. The team is not playing well. They held on yesterday, regardless of Utley’s throw, but giving up two lead off singles in the 8th doesnt help either.

  • Posts: 0 mets88

    yea reyes and delgado came back right. lol just shut up if you dont know the facts idiot.

  • Posts: 0 marty


    was this game there? yes… utley makes a bad throw..
    maybe pedro should stay in


    did you think this series was gonna be easy?

  • Posts: 0 Terri

    It is pretty sad that we have to use 5 pitchers to get 3 outs. Our BP is awful. You just know it won’t be clean whoever comes in the game. For the last 4 games bad stuff have happen late in the game. It is not a good sign. You also have to address the offense. Howard and Carlos are the only ones that are seeing the ball. Rollins is back to his old self, Werth just looks terrible and then there is Pedro, who hasn’t had a hit since last week. What is going on with this team.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Matt M, After seeing the play, true I blame Utley, but its still hard to say Park did his job by giving up 2 singles. The tying run is completely on Chase, but I still find it difficult to say Park did his job by giving up 2 straight singles, and by the way I said “Chase MAY never have had to make that throw”. How can you definativaly say “Leaving Pedro in wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game.” Is that really possible to say?

  • Posts: 0 marty

    terri SHUT THE F. UP

    werth had a bad game..he also HIT OVER .300 IN THE NLDS



  • Posts: 0 cas

    I would have been totally happy with a split in LA, but after seeing Martinez do so well today I really got greedy for getting both games. This loss is 100% on Chase Utley’s shoulders. I don’t know what the heck’s gotten into him. I have every confidence we’ll take two of the three (at least) in Philly, especially Game 3 with Lee pitching. But I want this series to end in 6 games because I have to be traveling next Saturday and won’t be able to see Game 7.

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    “just shut up if you dont know the facts idiot.” I guess I would pissed and embarrassed if my favorite team was that bad.

  • Posts: 0 Goosebumps

    I don’t see why everyone thinks it’s charlies fault. The phillies beat themselves on a couple unearned runs. He took out Pedro because Pedro hasn’t pitched a game in a month and he is getting old. If he kept Pedro in and he gave up a run then you would all be singing the same tune. If the players Charlie choosed actually executed how they were supposed to, then we would have won the game, but chase gave up a costly error and will still be a hall of famet and happ gave up a walked in run and is still in the running for rookie of the year. So chalk it up as some some sloppy fielding and let’s
    get them on Sunday! GO PHILS!!!

  • Posts: 0 Scott

    Like I said, they can’t stand prosperity. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say Chase was taking a dive, to miss that throw twice in as many days.

  • Posts: 0 ray

    by the way charlie didnt screw this game up. here’s why:
    He put Park in and the first hit was a play feliz always makes
    They also had a sure double play in that inning that was botched.
    Everyone forgets the reason why the first guy was on base?
    Charlie over managing? It’s the friggin playoffs you throw everything you got out there and get your best match ups with pitcher against hitter. Two infield mistakes cost us the game. Although feliz wasn’t technically a mistake it’s a play he should make

  • Posts: 0 BluBlood

    Joe leaves Kershaw in too long.
    Charlie takes Pedro out too early.

    Both teams mashers crap the bed (except for Howard).

    Series tied 1-1.

    Ain’t baseball great?

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    I do not blame all the players who didnt hit. I do not blame charlie. I do not blame madson for walking in the go ahead run.
    Its all on chase. all of it. and its 2 games in a row. Been any 2 game stretch ever he let in back to back like that?

  • Posts: 0 cas

    I think constantly switching pitchers to play the righty/lefty odds is the most overrated tactic in baseball. A good pitcher can get a batter out no matter how well the batter can see the ball. Utley took a gem of a game and flushed it down the toilet. I think we can recover; this team is resiliant, and we are coming home to a nice cold ballpark.

  • Posts: 0 marty

    yeah..utley was throwing the game

    you ppl are pathetic..

    i’m done with this blog because you ppl are unreal

    it’s 1-1 and the phillies have their REAL ACE going in game 3…and 3 straight home games..

  • Posts: 0 MOAB

    “I would have been totally happy with a split in LA, but after seeing Martinez do so well today I really got greedy for getting both games.”

    exactly, but they’re not gonna win many games scoring one run.

  • Posts: 0 Scott

    I was just kidding about Utley. Jeez!

  • Posts: 0 cas

    To Goosebumps: “CHOOSED”?!

  • Posts: 0 MP

    I’m with you, Marty. Good lord, people are acting like we lost the series. RELAX. The Dodgers were gonna win a game. We’re leaving with the split, which is excellent. I think we’re gonna sweep at home.We could argue all night where the game was lost and whose fault it was. We lost – the series is tied. Let’s get them back at the bank. We are very much in control. You guys should have WAY, WAY more faith in this team and what they can and will do.

  • Posts: 0 ray

    MOAB the dodgers aren’t going to win many games scoring just two runs and having to depend on more utley errors

  • Posts: 0 dodger fan

    Only one person here noticed the heads up play that Werth made.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew

    This type of loss haunts a team
    Re: first round Cardinals vs dodgers = see matt holliday

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Like I said above, the result MIGHT have been different, but Utley still SHOULD have made that throw. It is possible to blame a player, get pissed, and STILL be a fan. It is possible to not see everything as rosie after after two mediocre games overall defensively (today offensively as well) and not be happy, but still hopeful that they can take the next 3. NEITHER team is playing well. The Phillies CAN beat this team, and HAS, but they still arent playing well overall, however even the worst play yesterday was Utley. Even in the 9th inning, his throw to Howard was high, and not that good. I dont know whats up with Utley, but to say he sucks or needs to be replaced as some people have said is insanity. He has had a few bad games. Doesnt mean get rid of him.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Pedro didn’t get hit hard AT ALL until the 7th inning. He ran out of gas. No problem taking him out there. It was the right move. Of course if he came back, the same people bitching about Pedro being replaced would have bitched about Pedro being left in. The 8th was a weird inning, plain and simple. Feliz just misses a ground ball. Park and howard miss a bunt. Utley’s error. A couple of walks including one with the bases loaded.

    Momentum is only as good as the next day’s starting pitcher. Phils got Lee. Dodgers have Koroda. Who has the momentum?

  • Posts: 0 Brian of CO

    Marty, the onle FLIPPING out the most honestly is you! People are upset, Big freakin deal. The Phillies lost, oh well, the Series is Tied. Looks like YOU also need to chill.

  • Posts: 0 ray

    Im outta hereeeeeeeeeeee it’s friday night.
    The phils are tied 1-1, we have lee and blanton the next two games in our ballpark, it’s october we’re still playing, we are defending world champions, we don’t have to troll on other teams blogs because our team sucks, life is pretty good.
    Have a good night all and remember: We’re bringing it back to philly!!!!!!!

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Anyway, all you bitches out there, what TIME IS THE BRAVES PLAYOFF GAME???

  • Posts: 0 Az Mike

    Did Pedro ask to come out of the game? As I recall there were no baserunners for LA in the 7th – Why in the hell did Charlie all of a sudden think he had to manage? Pedro should have started the 8th with Chan Ho warming up. He probably would have continued with a 1-2-3 inning and probably a complete game shut-out. But Nooooooooooo – Charlie had to go F–k with Pedro’s karma. If you’ve got enough confidence to start the guy why can’t you leave him alone until he allows a base runner or two?? For some of you guys all-over Chase’s ass the tie run would have scored on Thome’s single even with the double play. Once this game was tied it was over! Give Charlie the Jeltz of the Year Award for this one. OK I feel better now!

  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    If I would allow myself to believe that Chase purposely did that, I couldn’t watch baseball anymore, that would ruin everything I love about this team. But I don’t think it’s beyond reason that he is not prepared properly for this series, and I think the rest of team knows why.

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