Comments on: Phillies Take Series Lead 2-1

By: Jeff Dowder

Jeff Dowder — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:20:06 +0000

Rollins hit .250 with a .296 OBP. He’s not a leadoff hitter. A leadoff hitter’s sole responsibility is to get on base. Jimmy can’t work the count and swings at way too many bad pitches. He swings for the fences when he should be worried about just getting on base. Nobody’s saying that Rollins isn’t a good player – he’s just not a leadoff hitter.

Ricky Henderson had a career OBP over .400. He was a leadoff hitter.

By: j reed

j reed — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:43:26 +0000

if Abreu’s career ended today, according to the “Hall of Fame Career Standards Test” which is metric deveolped by Bill James that Baseball Reference .com took from in his book “The Politics of Glory” Abreu is 1 point more than the average HOF. The test is a rating scale from 0 to 100 where 20 is the minium for any consideration. The only player to exceed 100 is Babe Ruth because of the additional points he gained from pitching. The average HOF has 50 points, so abreu is 1 point higher for a total of 51. There is also a “Hall of Fame Monitor” also by James which “to assess how likely (not how deserving) an active player is to make the Hall of Fame” I didn’t have time to calculate this but the only stat. on this list that could have a negative affect is (BA). That is, any future season will only add to the totals of the stats used to develop the rating scale. His career BA however could be affected by suffcient discrepancy between the number of hits to At Bats. If this happens and his career BA dipps below .300, the loss of the few points will have little effect on his overall number.
Two All-Star appearances, 1 gold glove , partcipating in 3 post seasons does not a HOFer necessarily make, but his 51 score on the Career Standard Test does. Is this enough to sway votes if his favor, if he ‘s
ever under consideration, i don’t know. I also read,

“He [Abreu] is the only player in Major League History with these numbers:
.300 BA, 200 HR, 300 SB, .400 OBP.
The only other players who were close were Willie Mays, Rickie Henderson and Barry Bonds.”
Also,
“there is only 1 instance of a player putting up these numbers in a season, ever:
30 HR, 40 SB, 40 2B, 100 BB
It was Bobby Abreu in 2004, who finished 23rd in the MVP voting on a 2nd place Phillies team.”
Will these things make a differnce? I doubt but i hope people are not fallaciously asserting that the Phillies success can be attributable to the departure of one player. It’s questionable cause unless you prove it. Otherwise all that can be said is that its coincidence.

By: GWFightinsFan

GWFightinsFan — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:37:14 +0000

You’re right, the Phillies are getting absolutely no respect. But that’s alright, we dont need respect, just the Ws!

By: Tim Rich

Tim Rich — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:28:43 +0000

Doug, keep your politics out of here

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:22:16 +0000

I like how this review of the game fails to mention how Utley was out at first too. Fair and balanced like Fox News up in here.

By: joe

joe — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:07:21 +0000

some of you guys are stupid.

move jimmy to the #7 hole?

ummm… what did he do in the top of the 9th?

debate over.
hes your lead off hitter.

shut up

By: The Original Chuck P

The Original Chuck P — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:55:27 +0000

I’ve got nothing but love for Thome… he brought energy to the new ballpark. Fair or not, that’s how I feel.

Abreu represents that late 90′s group; guys like Brogna, Glanville and Relaford weren’t very good… the organization had no clear direction and no desire to be committed to winning and guys like Abreu paid the price because they were never held accountable to win. The culture was always, “No worries, we’ll get em next year.” If Abreu was brought up now, he would understand that the expectations are very high. The expectation is to win… he was a good player that played for a bad organization.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:34:19 +0000

The phillies got good the moment Abreau was dealt. I feel the same about dealing Thome.
The phils get no respect from ANYONE and I like it that way.

By: The Original Chuck P

The Original Chuck P — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:18:41 +0000

Hey Bobby… if given the option to choose between you and any of our current OF’s, I would choose them… any of them. I don’t care what the numbers say because you are a bad defender, you come up small when it matters and the team is better without you. No offense and thanks for your time but there’s a reason you’re on the west coast now.

By: Amanda Orr

Amanda Orr — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:07:31 +0000

Jason– great job on the recap. Major props for doing it at 2:57 AM!!

Huge win. Let’s get ‘em again tonight.

By: Bobby Abreau Lives

Bobby Abreau Lives — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:04:59 +0000

Tell Fop Eskin that I plan to call him up on his shitty talk show and give him the devil. He makes me sick. He is probably too much of a coward to take my call.

By: Bobby Abreau Lives

Bobby Abreau Lives — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:03:10 +0000

Please tell that assinine Fop Howard Eskin that I am still around and still driving in 100 runs a year. Also, that I am still better than any of the current Phils outfielders. But mostly, tell that Fop Eskin that he is full of crap and couldn’t earn a dime outside the Philly market. I made millions in New York and now in Los Angeles. I really hate and resent that little Fop.

By: Greg F.

Greg F. — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:43:18 +0000

To say the Phils are being openly disrespected on the national stage would be an understatement. I mean, this team is not even on the radar screen of baseball writers and pundits openly rooting for a Yankees-Dodgers or Yankees-Cards matchup in the WS. The defending champs are barely being noticed, and merely as a curiosity or an afterthought when they finally get around to them.

But what you saw last night was a team of hardnosed professional ballplayers gutting out a clutch win in horrible conditions imposed upon them by the networks and the league. No question, the Phils are poised to spoil the national party. There is no way the Dodgers could pull off a win like last night under those conditions. Which is why I have never stopped believing the Phils are the class of the NL.

If we can close this out tonight, we will whip the pretty boy Dodgers like a rented mule and blow the finely crafted leads of every sportswriter in America.

Finally, TBS has absolutely no business whatsoever covering baseball. I have never seen camera coverage this incompetent in all my years of watching TV baseball. Public access TV is more competent. TBS, can you please just follow the ball!

By: cas

cas — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:52:47 +0000

Lesson learned from last night: Never, and I mean NEVER, take an allergy tablet when there’s a late Phillies game on, no matter how much you are sneezing or how itchy your eyes are. I missed most of the best stuff!!!!!

By: np

np — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:44:19 +0000

brad lidge in the 9th is still very scary…i understand they didnt have many options at that point last night but i hope charlie will just stick with madson in some upcoming situations

plus, lidge’s numbers are so much worse on the road…only 1 blown save at home which came at the very beginning of the year, so IF brad lidge is put into a save situation, it should only be at home

By: Jeff Dowder

Jeff Dowder — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:42:17 +0000

If the Phillies pick up a legitimate leadoff hitter this winter moving Rollins to the seventh slot would not be ridiculous at all. Now’s not the time to do it though.

By: SDO

SDO — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:34:21 +0000

Karen – no kidding. Do think Selig and his cronies care? It’s all about $$$ from the networks.

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:17:47 +0000

This whole scheduling thing is crazy. It was close to 2/2:30 am eastern time when the game ended. That is certainly not fair to the phillies fans

By: Chuck

Chuck — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:47:14 +0000

I was reclining….but it was on an uncomfortable couch. And it was kind of chilly so I didn’t get all toasty and sluggish. Otherwise………..

By: The Original Chuck P

The Original Chuck P — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:28:59 +0000

Never let yourself get into that reclining position… at that point, it’s a done deal.