Comments on: Utley to Blame – Won’t Hear That Often http://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/ Your source for Phillies news, events, trade rumors, tickets, bars and other fun stuff. Sat, 26 May 2012 05:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Chase Utleyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-150102 Chase Utley Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:47:16 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-150102 You are all idiots. If the double play is turned, it would have been man on third with 2 outs. Thome, the next batter, then hit a single. It would have been tied regardless. The botched bunt was what cost the game, considering the Dodgers were TRYING to give the phillies an out.The real blame lies on the OFFENSE, who managed ONE GODDAM RUN ON A SOLO HR. SHUT UP AND STOP BLAMING ME! You are all idiots. If the double play is turned, it would have been man on third with 2 outs. Thome, the next batter, then hit a single. It would have been tied regardless. The botched bunt was what cost the game, considering the Dodgers were TRYING to give the phillies an out.

The real blame lies on the OFFENSE, who managed ONE GODDAM RUN ON A SOLO HR. SHUT UP AND STOP BLAMING ME!

]]> By: mycruzincooler.comhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-149596 mycruzincooler.com Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:15:04 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149596 Jack .... You may be right on Utley. He just looks flat. Jack …. You may be right on Utley. He just looks flat.

]]> By: Handsome Jackhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-149595 Handsome Jack Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:09:20 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149595 I believe Utley is physically hurting and doing everything in his power to help the team. I believe he simply ran out of gas in September and is running on fumes. Even if he is hurt, the Phils have NO suitable replacement. A hurt Utley is better than a Bruntlett in top shape. Or a Cairo. Let's not throw the guy under the bus. Remember: God wears a Phillies hat and is rooting for the Phils, though he will not use his vast power to swing things our way. He's not like that. I believe Utley is physically hurting and doing everything in his power to help the team. I believe he simply ran out of gas in September and is running on fumes. Even if he is hurt, the Phils have NO suitable replacement. A hurt Utley is better than a Bruntlett in top shape. Or a Cairo. Let’s not throw the guy under the bus. Remember: God wears a Phillies hat and is rooting for the Phils, though he will not use his vast power to swing things our way. He’s not like that.

]]> By: Handsome Jackhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-149594 Handsome Jack Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:05:14 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149594 My sizeable gut tells me the Phils will put up some significant offensive numbers tonight against LA. I hope my gut is correct and not just reacting to a huge cheesesteak hoagie and extra large order of crisp fries. My sizeable gut tells me the Phils will put up some significant offensive numbers tonight against LA. I hope my gut is correct and not just reacting to a huge cheesesteak hoagie and extra large order of crisp fries.

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-149592 j reed Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:30:12 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149592 oh no its the "wild cat". Meow bitches oh no its the “wild cat”. Meow bitches

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-149591 j reed Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:25:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149591 that's "even spell" Doh! that’s “even spell” Doh!

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-2/#comment-149590 j reed Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:23:34 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149590 Can andy reid spell even "running back" I hardly watch football and can figure that out...Tom Cable needs some anger management therapy Can andy reid spell even “running back” I hardly watch football and can figure that out…Tom Cable needs some anger management therapy

]]> By: j reedhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149588 j reed Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:10:58 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149588 Remember the WS pump fake gun down of Barlett at home....that took some serious stituational awareness and skill in a much higer pressure stituation than these play off games. Remember his hip surgery. Remember his puritical work ethic (which I call overtraining) . Point is, I put the hip before going Knoblauch Block. 1] Mike Lowell (same injury, same surgery), struggled all season with expected, normal post-op hip pain which is why the Red Sox platooned him with Youklis at third. 2] to see not only the two dp throws but other more routine throws that exhibited similar characteristics of errant throws points to adaptive shortening of surrounding muscle to guard instability of the hip joint. The hip is a crucial junction in the transfer of reaction forces between the ground and foot thru the lower body to the upper body in the kinetic chain of movement used to throw a ball or a punch. It may be more pronouced in throwing than batting because there is little if any element of chance in throwing than in batting Batting involves alot more variables than throwing, that is in batting the outcome is dependedant on other factors like the pitched ball whereas throwing primarily depends on the athlete alone unless there are mitigating circumstances. If the hip is ruled out, then I'd say call a sports shrink cause it's a case of the "yips". Either way it's cause for concern. Remember the WS pump fake gun down of Barlett at home….that took some serious stituational awareness and skill in a much higer pressure stituation than these play off games. Remember his hip surgery. Remember his puritical work ethic (which I call overtraining) . Point is, I put the hip before going Knoblauch Block. 1] Mike Lowell (same injury, same surgery), struggled all season with expected, normal post-op hip pain which is why the Red Sox platooned him with Youklis at third. 2] to see not only the two dp throws but other more routine throws that exhibited similar characteristics of errant throws points to adaptive shortening of surrounding muscle to guard instability of the hip joint. The hip is a crucial junction in the transfer of reaction forces between the ground and foot thru the lower body to the upper body in the kinetic chain of movement used to throw a ball or a punch. It may be more pronouced in throwing than batting because there is little if any element of chance in throwing than in batting Batting involves alot more variables than throwing, that is in batting the outcome is dependedant on other factors like the pitched ball whereas throwing primarily depends on the athlete alone unless there are mitigating circumstances.
If the hip is ruled out, then I’d say call a sports shrink cause it’s a case of the “yips”. Either way it’s cause for concern.

]]> By: Harry Kalashttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149587 Harry Kalas Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:02:02 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149587 We all need to just let the Utley errors and Game 2 as a whole go. Jeter missed one last nite and the Angels' SS made two huge mistakes. Ditto w/Tori Hunter in Game 1.. If Lee is hitting his spots we should at min win 2 of the next 3.The Eagles losing to the Raiders?? &^$%%&$$#*&! We all need to just let the Utley errors and Game 2 as a whole go. Jeter missed one last nite and the Angels’ SS made two huge mistakes. Ditto w/Tori Hunter in Game 1.. If Lee is hitting his spots we should at min win 2 of the next 3.

The Eagles losing to the Raiders?? &^$%%&$$#*&!

]]> By: Jeffhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149585 Jeff Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:20:34 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149585 Your wrong John. Things can change if that double play was turned. Maybe walk Thome, defense in a different postion. Life changes. My best friend got into his car and started on his way to work. He got a block from his house and noticed his cell was not with him. He turned back and grabbed it. He was halfway to work when a drunk driver ran a red light and killed him. If he did not forget his cell or go back for it he would still be here. everything changes. I know thats a rough point to make but its true. Things change by the actions in our lives. Your wrong John. Things can change if that double play was turned. Maybe walk Thome, defense in a different postion. Life changes. My best friend got into his car and started on his way to work. He got a block from his house and noticed his cell was not with him. He turned back and grabbed it. He was halfway to work when a drunk driver ran a red light and killed him. If he did not forget his cell or go back for it he would still be here. everything changes. I know thats a rough point to make but its true. Things change by the actions in our lives.

]]> By: Philsgirlhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149583 Philsgirl Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:06:38 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149583 This is a sad topic to have to comment on as a whole, and I understand we would all like to (and do) finger-point. Yep, there's something up with Chase's throws to first. Yep, he made the second consecutive error in as many games in a playoff series, and even earlier in the day a routine throw to Howard was almost over his head. But that was an *error*, and things happen given that error based on what's going on situationally in the game. It's not a calculated move, which, if it leads to badness, is more inexcusable in my book. Our offense has basically been shut down by Padilla, Pedro's throwing a shut-out game, still looks good, and has a pitch count in the high 80's. Our bullpen is, let's face it, crappy. A "well-though-out" *decision* to take Martinez out after he's shown an ability to throw a 130-count game that means 1,000 times less to our season, that creates a collective sigh from the Dodgers dugout that can be heard clear out to Arizona, that forces a wave of successive, misguided, and highly out-of-character micromanagement that eventually leads to the loss; geez, just the sudden 180 in managerial style might make me flubb a couple routine plays in the field out of sheer confusion. Chase made a bad and ultimately costly error. Charlie lost us the game. This is a sad topic to have to comment on as a whole, and I understand we would all like to (and do) finger-point. Yep, there’s something up with Chase’s throws to first. Yep, he made the second consecutive error in as many games in a playoff series, and even earlier in the day a routine throw to Howard was almost over his head. But that was an *error*, and things happen given that error based on what’s going on situationally in the game. It’s not a calculated move, which, if it leads to badness, is more inexcusable in my book. Our offense has basically been shut down by Padilla, Pedro’s throwing a shut-out game, still looks good, and has a pitch count in the high 80′s. Our bullpen is, let’s face it, crappy. A “well-though-out” *decision* to take Martinez out after he’s shown an ability to throw a 130-count game that means 1,000 times less to our season, that creates a collective sigh from the Dodgers dugout that can be heard clear out to Arizona, that forces a wave of successive, misguided, and highly out-of-character micromanagement that eventually leads to the loss; geez, just the sudden 180 in managerial style might make me flubb a couple routine plays in the field out of sheer confusion. Chase made a bad and ultimately costly error. Charlie lost us the game.

]]> By: Mannyhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149581 Manny Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:59:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149581 No new posts today??? No new posts today???

]]> By: The Olympic Committeehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149578 The Olympic Committee Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:24:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149578 Damn them americans sure hate their country! Damn them americans sure hate their country!

]]> By: Oxylimbaughhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149577 Oxylimbaugh Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:20:28 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149577 Wah wah wah the nfl won't let me buy a team Wah wah wah the nfl won’t let me buy a team

]]> By: Fishtownhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149576 Fishtown Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:16:45 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149576 Everyone knows why I have my "deep seated hatred" of the sparrows. The day I got beat up at the linc...ha ha ha Everyone knows why I have my “deep seated hatred” of the sparrows. The day I got beat up at the linc…ha ha ha

]]> By: Eli Manninghttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149573 Eli Manning Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:47:26 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149573 Our overrated team is getting exposed big time Our overrated team is getting exposed big time

]]> By: Fishtownhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149572 Fishtown Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:31:06 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149572 I'm a loser who shouldn't be on this site, maybe I should jump on the yankees bandwagon, in fact I will if they win it all I’m a loser who shouldn’t be on this site, maybe I should jump on the yankees bandwagon, in fact I will if they win it all

]]> By: Johnhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149564 John Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:05:01 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149564 Okay, in defense of Utley:firstly, the error in game 1 was completely meaningless. There was no way he'd have gotten Ethier out even with a good throw, and it made no difference whether Ethier was on first or second when Ramirez hit a two run shot. And, of course, the Phillies won the game.As to what happened in Game 2, sure, Utley bears a big share of the blame. But even if they turn the double play, there's still Pierre on third with Jim Thome coming up to bat. Thome hit a single off Eyre. With the double play turned, it's likely that Manuel would have left Park in, but it's completely possible that Thome would have hit a single anyway and tied up the game. At that point they probably could have gotten out of the inning, but it's not at all clear they would have won.As others have said, the real problem on Friday was the offense, which did absolutely nothing (except Howard). If you can only score one run, you oughtn't to expect to win. Okay, in defense of Utley:

firstly, the error in game 1 was completely meaningless. There was no way he’d have gotten Ethier out even with a good throw, and it made no difference whether Ethier was on first or second when Ramirez hit a two run shot. And, of course, the Phillies won the game.

As to what happened in Game 2, sure, Utley bears a big share of the blame. But even if they turn the double play, there’s still Pierre on third with Jim Thome coming up to bat. Thome hit a single off Eyre. With the double play turned, it’s likely that Manuel would have left Park in, but it’s completely possible that Thome would have hit a single anyway and tied up the game. At that point they probably could have gotten out of the inning, but it’s not at all clear they would have won.

As others have said, the real problem on Friday was the offense, which did absolutely nothing (except Howard). If you can only score one run, you oughtn’t to expect to win.

]]> By: No Debbiehttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149561 No Debbie Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:32:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149561 uhhh am i the only one who remembers him chucking a ball into the dugout during game 1??? yeah sure he got taken out, but come on chase eat the ball, dont throw it in the dug out. two game changing plays, two days. uhhh am i the only one who remembers him chucking a ball into the dugout during game 1??? yeah sure he got taken out, but come on chase eat the ball, dont throw it in the dug out. two game changing plays, two days.

]]> By: ryanhttp://philliesnation.com/archives/2009/10/utley-to-blame-%e2%80%93-won%e2%80%99t-hear-that-often/comment-page-1/#comment-149557 ryan Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:53:22 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=9472#comment-149557 Charlie gets some blame too. You don't take Pedro out there. Not the way he was dominating and not the way our bullpen stinks. Charlie gets some blame too. You don’t take Pedro out there. Not the way he was dominating and not the way our bullpen stinks.

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