Which City Has the Edge?

Posted by Jason Bintliff, Tue, October 27, 2009 08:00 AM | Comments: 86
Posts, World Series 2009

When it comes to comparing Philadelphia with New York, Philadelphia often gets the short end of the stick. However, when it comes to the important things in life, Philadelphia does more than holds it own when pitted up to the self-proclaimed “Capital of the Free World.”  We are, after all, the nation’s first capital.

Historical Landmarks: Liberty Bell vs. Statue of Liberty

Between the two cities, there are no shortages of famous landmarks. There are two that come to mind almost instantly.

New York has the Statue of Liberty. First dedicated by France to symbolize the friendship forged during the Revolutionary War, Lady Liberty still proudly stands in New York Harbor. Standing a whopping 305 ft. tall, this jolly green giant is visited by over 3 million people per year. It loses points for its geographical location, which is technically New Jersey (much like their football teams).

The Liberty Bell is a symbol of freedom in this country. Located in the heart of Center City, it is the heart of Philadelphia. One could also claim it to be the Heart of Independence. Its most famous ringing came on July 8th, 1776 as a signal to Philadelphians and Americans that independence had been declared. Weighing in at a hefty 2,055 lbs. this heavy-weight is also visited by over 3 million persons per year. It gains points for seniority in American history. New York loses a few more points for being a colony full of loyalists who until the very last moment succumbed to the pressure of the other colonies.

Edge: Philadelphia

Food: Cheesesteaks vs. Pizza

You can find Philadelphia’s signature dish in many places across the country, but seldom is this delicatesy good outside of the tri-state area (PA, NJ, Northern DE). Cheese Wiz, wit or witout juicy beef grilled to heavenly perfection, a true Philadelphian knows, it’s the roll that makes the sandwich. (My personal preference is Amoroso’s roll with provolone cheese) Perhaps it’s the limited accessibility to good bread that limits other spots across the U.S. from producing a cheesesteak worthy of a Philadelphian tongue.

Everyone knows that New York is known for their Manhattan or Neapolitan style pizza. Sure, it’s good, I cannot lie, however, is it better than say Chicago-style deep-dish? Are the pizzas you find in New York leaps and bounds better than that of what you find at your favorite Ma and Pop pizza joint in your neighborhood? Better maybe, but only slightly. Add in the accessibility of good pizza across the nation and New York-Style Pizza just doesn’t stand out from the pack like a good cheesesteak does.

Edge: Philadelphia

Traffic: Cross- Bronx vs. The Schuylkill

I have been stuck in traffic numerous times on both roadways. Each time I subject myself to the punishment doled out by either gauntlet, I feel as if I lose two years off my life. It doesn’t matter if it’s midnight, on Christmas, in a blizzard, the day after nuclear annihilation, you are sure to find a jam up, no matter which highway you find yourself on. Both Philadelphians and New Yorkers can lament when struggling to deal with these two behemoths.

Edge: Push

Fans: Yankees vs. Phillies

In Philadelphia, if you’re a fan, you are a PHAN. Your reputation proceeds you. You are feared by the nation yet revered by your brethren. Forget Santa, you have thrown snowballs at Cowboys head-coach Jimmy Johnson and ruffled his finely coiffed hairdo. You have ruined the careers of both Matt Garza and Eva, er Evan Longoria because you refused to let them get comfortable on the biggest stage of their careers. You are not passive about your sports teams, you are passionate. Whether or not you have a good day depends on how well your team performed the night before. Baseball for you is not an institution, it’s life. To root for a winner is easy, but to root for a team that has  over ten-thousand losses takes a special person – a loyal person. You are that person.

To be a Yankees fan is trying. Geez, your team hasn’t won since the turn of the century(2000). Fuhgedaboutit, Yankee fans don’t hold a candle to a Phillies fan because you don’t have the experience of pain and loss of Joe Carter and 1964. I won’t be the one to call you front-runners because you really have no other choice (well you could be a Mets fan… I know, I’m laughing too). You may well be passionate, but you have no clue as to what devotion is because you never had to suffer through bad, and I mean really bad times. (Except losing that Boston series, yeah, that was pretty rough.)

Edge: Philadelphia

So there you have it, Philadelphia is clearly better than New York both inside and outside the baseball stadium.

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Jason Bintliff has written 55 articles on Phillies Nation.

Jason Bintliff is a Phillies season ticket holder and avid fan for 28 years. He was a former free lance writer and contributor to various baseball blogs. He is also the proud son of the owner of Lena Blackburns Baseball Rubbing Mud.

  • Posts: 0 Darren Daulton

    All I know is that Mars is much better than both cities. I know, I live there.

  • Posts: 0 Keith

    NY has good pizza? I thought their big thing was the cheesecake lol.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    Well Keith if you ask New Yorkers, their big thing is everything…so go ahead, ask them.

  • Posts: 0 Keith

    also, hoagie vs. hero.

    a sandwich is not a hero, a hero is someone who saves the world. what a stupid name for a sandwich, makes boston’s grinder seem decent.

  • Posts: 0 Keith

    from that NY Post article

    “Consider Philadel phia’s most famous export — other than Will Smith: overcooked minced-meat sand wiches doused in Cheez Whiz.

    “The big meal there is a steak with cheese and onions on a hero, but they don’t even call it a hero. It’s a hoagie. What the hell is a hoagie?” said Ron Montclane, 26.”

    why would we call it a hero? you silly New Yorker. a hero is someone who saves the world. definitely not a sandwich. so stupid.

  • Posts: 0 Keith


    you have to be a hero to eat a sandwich? that’s why it’s called a hero in New York? *laughs* so stupid.

  • Posts: 0 Pete

    ReclinerGM has a great preview up you guys should check out….


  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Washington TWP south jersey has some awesome cheesesteaks. Of course a lot of South philly transplants down here, LOL. You can even get an authentic 9th street hoagie hard roll and all.

    Historically speaking Philly has Ben Franklin, Betsey Ross, etc. Hands down for Philly.

    Fans-Clearly Philly fans.

    Don’t forget taxes. NY is ridiculous!

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Hey Darren Daulton……how are the cheesesteaks on Mars??

    I agree with whoever said it…Pedro can absolutely embrace “Who’s your Daddy”… I trust Charlie’s decision with this. If he gets lit up I guess we all can second-guess him and ask why he didn’t pitch Cole in Game 2…..bit there’s good reason why we’re nervous about that scenario.

    Pete Rose on 97.5 The Fanatic this morning agrees with Cole pitching Game 3….he basically says there is no difference whether it’s Game 2 or Game 3…he still has to pitch in a game.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    love the Washington Twp shout out psujoe. It’s where I grew up.

  • Posts: 0 Philly Texan

    Love the decision to start Pedro in Game 2. For three reasons:

    1. Hamels is better at home right now — has been all year.

    2. Pedro is mentally tougher than Cole right now.

    I have a feeling that Game 2 might be high scoring, with the Phils getting to Burnet.If we can get 5-6 effective innings from Pedro, we have an excellent chance.

    3. I like the Hamels – Petitie match up.

    But Petite scares me — probably the most of anyone on the Yanks staff. CC is a stud, but I know the Phils can get to him.

    Petite, though, is exactly the type of pitcher we usually struggle against — soft-throwing lefty with good control who doesn’t walk people, doesn’t get rattled and doesn’t make many mistakes. The Phils are a fastball- and mistake-hitting team, and Petite won’t give us many of either.

    Cole might get rocked, but he also might throw 8 shutout innings. And we’ll need that against Petite. That could very well be a pitcher’s duel.

  • Posts: 0 Keith

    I agree with Ed. I’m also from Washington Township or better known as just “twp”

  • Posts: 0 Richie Allen

    Speaking of Darren Daulton…He has been pretty normal on Comcast.After all the time travel and living in other beings stuff,I expected some craziness out of him.
    Anyway,here in NE Pa,where EVERYONE is either a Phil or Yank fan,this is a dream come true.I have been waiting for this my whole life!
    Go Phils!

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Pettitte is the most difficult match up for us, for sure… the keys to winning against Pettitte: 1. he can’t get the outside corner strikes against right handers; our lefties are going to struggle against him but he is forced to come inside against righties, we’ll be able to put up some runs… 2. we have to be patient and make him throw strikes… he’ll burn breaking balls in the dirt all day if guys are swinging at them. 3. No mental errors (don’t get caught with your pants down on second or third base)… take what you can get and bleed out 3 or 4 runs. Put the pressure on him to be perfect.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    Amen Keith.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Philly Cheesesteaks are the best cheesesteaks in the world. The best pizza in the world is in Italy followed by Switzerland. New York isn’t in the same ballpark as real Italian pizza.

    The Liberty Bell is the symbol of Liberty and is proud to live in the heart of Philadelphia. The Statue of Liberty is closer to New Jersey because she was too embarrassed to be seen so close to New York.

    Is there really an arguement as to who has the better fans? Phillie fans stuck through their team through 10,000 losses while Yankee fans seem to come back and watch the team only when they win after paying billions of dollars on the team.

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Yankees fans filled only 88 percent of the seats in a brand-new stadium, Phillies attendance was 102 percent of its seating capacity at Citizens Bank Park.

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Original Chuck: I also think that Pettitte will be the toughest matchup… HOWEVER, this year lefties hit him over 30 points higher than righties. (.282 vs .249)

  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Did the Yankees announce their pitching lineup?

  • Posts: 0 Philly Texan

    interesting stat on Pettitte. Burnet doesn’t scare me at all. But I’m afraid Pettitte will give us Randy Wolf flashbacks. Of course, the Phils won the game that Wolf started, so go figure…..

    joedad, they announced CC for game 1. It will have to be Burnet in game 2 becasue Pettitte pitched on Sunday. I doubt they’d bring him back on three days rest when they have Burnet rested.

    So the rotation will have to be CC, Burnet, Pettitte.

    After that, it’s anyone’s guess for both teams.

  • Posts: 0 Dan S

    I love philly but the statue of liberty is better than the liberty bell

  • Posts: 0 Darren Daulton

    The cheesesteaks are pretty good on Mars but nowhere near as good as the cheesesteaks Lenny and I ate when we traveled back in time to watch the 1919 World Series. Lenny bet on the White Sox. I guess that is why is he broke.

  • Posts: 0 Lenny Dykstra

    Guess I picked a bad year to invest in car washes.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    A buddy of mine just told me that J-Roll said in an interview with playboy back in June that it would be Phils and Yanks in the World Series.

    Supposedly last night J-Roll told Leno the Phils would win in 5.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Here’s an interesting tidbit…..The 2008 and 2009 NLCS opposing manager is named Joe (Torre) and the 2008 and 2009 WS opposing manager is also named Joe (Maddon, Girardi)…

    I smell another WFC!!


    J-Roll DID make that prediction on Leno last night….97.5 played the clip earlier

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    playing the theme song to the twilight zone….

  • Posts: 0 Darren Daulton

    I hear that song in my head all day long.

  • Posts: 0 Curt Schilling

    Yo Dutch. What’s with the hair, dude?

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

  • Posts: 0 4daysrest.com

    You wanna mess with Philly? We will dig up dirt on you and blast you, blog-style. Check the site…it’s worth it. For a change.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew R.

    I don’t know if anybody said it, but the Statue of Liberty belongs to New Jersey. We sued NY a few years ago because it is on NJ property and we now receive all tourism money from it.

    So I guess you should use the Empire State building as their landmark.

  • Posts: 0 Uncle Jimmy

    Funny stuff Jason.. time for Philly to stand tall, kick ass, and take names..

    I’m just waiting for B-Rad to stick one in A-Rod’s ear..or maybe Pay-Dro (as in PayBack)..

    Revenge of the Whiz Kids.. go Phillies!!!

  • Posts: 0 Cd

    Philly is great town, terribly underrated. The setting for the funniest sitcom of all time, “always sunny”, and the home to one of the better non-topless dance joints in the northeast, Cheerleaders. But the ONLY thing Philly has going for it over NYC is the higher murder rate, and the lack of mouth-breathing Yankee fans. Go Phils!!!

  • Posts: 0 Joe

    LOL Philly fans ru kidding me majority are 700 level clueless morons who take pride in acting like idiots every chance they get. Yelling asshole at Pats fans at the superbowl yrs ago that was good. Half the people in Philly and PA in general walk around dressed like they should be going to a Nascar race. Boston blows Philly away as a city and NY is way above Boston enough said.

  • Posts: 0 Tony

    What a joke trying to compare NYC to Philly in terms of food,culture and everything else ! I only need one borough Brooklyn and I’m ahead.

  • Posts: 0 tres

    philly is a secon class city new york is the capital of the world

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