World Series Gameday: Yankees at Phillies, Game 3
Posted by Amanda Orr, Sat, October 31, 2009 06:55 PM | Comments: 479
Gameday 2009, Posts, World Series 2009
New York Yankees (1-1) at Philadelphia Phillies (1-1)
Andy Pettitte, LHP vs. Cole Hamels, LHP
Time: 7:57 p.m at Citizens Bank Park
Weather: Few Showers, 69 degrees
TV: FOX
Twitter: Phillies Nation
When asked if this year felt “more like a World Series” compared to last year’s, Jimmy Rollins responded: “when we get to Philly, it will.” The Fall Classic moves to the city of brotherly love with the series split at a game apiece. The Phillies are 11-1 at home in the postseason since 2008. “It makes it a lot more fun, because you know they’re your fans, and you know how that sound can echo off your ears when they’re not your fans,” Rollins said.
Cole Hamels starts defending his World Series MVP award tonight, but he isn’t going to win back-to-back MVPs unless he has an outstanding start tonight. His 2008 postseason heroics are almost forgotten with his 1-1, 6.75 ERA during this year’s playoffs. Cole has allowed 20 hits in 14.1 innings, but has only allowed two walks. Not only does he need to limit the hits, but Hamels needs to keep the ball in the yard. In his career against the Yankees, Hamels is 0-1 with a 2.77 ERA.
Hamels will be opposed by Andy Pettitte, the all-time leader in postseason wins and career pickoffs. Pettitte is a finesse pitcher, not overpowering; however, he has stretches where he lacks command. In all of his starts this postseason, the lefty lasted 6.1 innings and did not allowed more than three runs. In May, Pettitte allowed four runs over seven innings against the Phillies. He hasn’t pitched at Citizens Bank Park since 2006.
On Thursday, A.J Burnett was magnificent, and there wasn’t much that the Phillies could do. Today, the right-handed bats will need to step it up, as Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, and Raul Ibanez are a combined 8-for-37 against Pettitte.
Phillies lineup: Rollins (SS), Victorino (CF), Utley (2B), Howard (1B), Werth (RF), Ibanez (LF), Feliz (3B), Ruiz (C), Hamels (P).
Greg Dobbs is available after recovering from the flu.
Yankees Lineup: Jeter (SS), Damon (LF), Teixeira (1B), A-Rod (3B), Posada (C), Cano (2B), Swisher (RF), Cabrera (CF), Pettitte (P).
No DH tonight, Yankees.
Your Gameday Beer – Imperial Chocolate Pumpkin Porter
On a night like tonight, this is the beer you need. Brewed by Midnight Sun Brewing out of Alaska, this thick dark beer pours like melted chocolate. However neither the chocolate nor pumpkin flavors are overwhelming. The scents of molasses, gingerbread, and roasted malts help to polish this brew into something delicious. It goes well with BBQ, but tonight have it alongside the candy intended for trick-or-treaters. – By Brian
GO PHILLIES!
















Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova
Howard and Utley have looked absolutely lost at the plate tonight and in game 2. The tough problem is our guys give up home runs they always have, and the Yankees are teeing off on the bullpen.
I think it is safe to say if this goes 7 we will not see Hamels again. His season is over. Such a disappointing one. He needs a shrink!! I swear he better get his shit together by spring training.
I would love to see something at the bottom of the ninth, I am not too confident that it will happen.
The other problem is….. we are giving the Yankee hitters momentum in a band box. Our pitching looks to be our demise
Posted: 12:31 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 whynow
SEE YA ALL MANANA…
hopefully w/ a better ending
Posted: 12:31 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Manny
CMON GUYS it’s Phil Hughes… we GOTTA do something here… NEVER GIVE UP!! LETS GO PHILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 12:32 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 whynow
i’ll watch the game – but i am blogged out..
Posted: 12:32 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
That A-Rod HR call is the wrong call. First of all it was ruled a double on the field. Secondly you need conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field, and the conclusive evidence was not there. That ball either barely goes out, or hits the top of the fence. You cannot tell because either the ball is dropping at a fast rate or carrying well and that cannot be determined in 15 seconds which is what the umps took to make that call. That is the wrong call by the umps. The Yankees did nothing up to that point, that was their first hit. And for the umps to go in for 15 seconds and come out that quick to signal HR is wrong. The umps put the Yankees on the board, not the Yankees themselves. Had that been the tail end of a 6 run inning for the Yankees, the call is understandable. Being that the Yankees were yet to score in the game, it is the wrong call because the umps are giving the Yankees runs before they even score any themselves.
Posted: 12:33 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R.
I really think Hamels is just lost this season. He just doesn’t know what to do. I don’t see him really shaking off Ruiz so its not like he is not listening to the catcher and instead going with what he wants. It’s just that he can’t locate for an entire game and he can’t put guys away. Maybe next year.
Posted: 12:34 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Let me ask you all this then. Would you rather
A. Miss the Playoffs
B. Lose in the NLDS
C. Lose in the NLCS
D. go down 2 games to 1 in the World Series to a team who pretty bought the championship.
The Yankees are the reason MLB needs a salary cap. The Phillies payroll is close to half of the Yankmees. Are you kidding me?
Posted: 12:35 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 chuckS
come on pete happy
Posted: 12:35 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R.
I agree with Schmidt that giving A-Rod the homer was the wrong call as I don’t think it was fair to overturn what was called on the field, however, it was a home run so whatever.
Posted: 12:35 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 ray
By the way, I’d hate to be the one jeff g is operating on because if the smallest thing went wrong he’d just call it a day and send you off to the morgue
Posted: 12:36 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 FillyP
COME ON, WE CAN GET TO HUGHES!! LET’S MAKE ‘EM PAY FOR TRYING TO SAVE MO
Posted: 12:36 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 chuckS
thats a start
Posted: 12:37 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Manny
Alright CHOOCH!!!! Never say die!
Posted: 12:38 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova
Well at least we force Riveria to pitch
Posted: 12:38 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Manny
We got to Mariano two days ago, we can do it now! Get that in your head Phillies and lets give it our all….
Posted: 12:39 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
HK – Not that Yankees starters are all that minus CC. They have more depth with the bats than we do and that covers up for a multitude of sins. Bottom line tonight has been all about that top of the fifth and a seriously dumb pitch choice by Hamels.
Choochie
Posted: 12:40 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Start with Chooch. Come on guys. I know Rivera is awesome, but lets do this. Bail out Hamels.
Posted: 12:40 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
The reason the call is wrong is because of what was called on the field and the situation of the game at that point. The Yankees have 0 runs at that point, you don’t overturn a questionable call and put their first runs of the ball game on the board for them. Regardless of what anyone says the call is questionable, it can go either way, it is not definetly a home run and it is not definetly not a home run, but because of the situation of the game it is the wrong call
Posted: 12:41 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova
Come on Stairs do something
Posted: 12:41 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Angry phillies fan
Let’s just call that 2 run shot by the Yankees what it was — the Viagra home run– he coldnt get it up by himself… Do any controversial calls go the phillies’ way??
Posted: 12:42 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova
man Jroll is so frustrating to watch 2 pitches, come you could have at least made him through pitches
Posted: 12:43 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 hotstove
It was a hr look at the replay the camera not threr it is a homer. Sorry brake didnt go our way we need to get to CC early tommrow night or prepare for Lee to have the whole series on his shoulders vs burnett on mnday night.
Posted: 12:43 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 chuckS
Jeltz the shit out of Cole
Posted: 12:45 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 hotstove
Cole Hamels sucks the big one he is a looser.
Posted: 12:45 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
To me this game doesn’t count. I could careless if the Yankees win 2 more games. You don’t make a controversal and questionable call that quickly when a team has yet to get on the scoreboard. Because if you do it is a momentum call. Its not a call somewhere in the middle of the game where both teams are on the board and it could go this way or go that way. You can see how the momentum of the game changed after that. If you call that a HR you are giving the Yankees momentum where they have not earned any, and you are taking momentum away from the Phillies when they have been playing a good ball game. No way there is conclusive evidence on where that ball is going. No way, total cheating by the umps.
Posted: 12:46 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
It wasn’t necessarily a home run because you don’t know the trajectory of the ball, and if you find out the trajectory of the ball it is going to take alot more than 15 seconds. That ball can be dropping more that you think it may be and hit the top of the fence. Regardless it is too close to call. You don’t put runs on the board for a team that hasn’t scored any, because it changes momentum. It is a cheating call because it is A-Rod and the Yankees. They overturned that in 15 seconds, no way they can figure that out that quickly.
Posted: 12:48 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Michael Stubel
For the first time in two postseasons, the Phillies must win tomorrow
Posted: 12:48 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
The camera shouldn’t have been where it was, but the camera was in the field of play. It wasn’t behind the fence it was in front of it. The ball looks like it is hitting the top of the fence. The fence is not just the main part from the bottom it is also that screened fence on top of the major part of the fence. If it hits that the ball is in play. Not enough evidence to know for sure that ball was going out. It is the wrong call and cost us the game, that is why to me the game doesn’t count.
Posted: 12:50 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Harry Kalas
Come on now that was a HR…. Cole has no put away pitch…. If he did Cole really had a chance to have a special nite. But the apparent plan was to switch to the curve after his 1st go round through the Yankee order. That was the game right there folks. Can we win tomm?? Of course we can. Can we win a Game 6/7 in N.Y.?? I don’t see why not. But Charlie scares me. His moves continue to get more unexplainable. This is the 1st time that the Champs have faced a big post season test in 2yrs. We’ll see how they respond.
Posted: 12:51 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
I don’t know how you can definetly say that ball is a home run. You don’t know the exact trajectory of the ball. That ball can be dropping a lot more that you think at the last minute because that is what fly balls do. To me it looks like it hits the top of the fence. Anyone who says it definetly was a home run doesn’t know what they are talking about.
Posted: 12:54 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
Phillies fans should be very upset right now and should not consider this game a win by the Yankees. John Kruk just said it himself, the ball was in play. The camera is hanging over the wall it was not behind the fence it was in the field of play. I took a really close look at the replays and the ball appears to be hitting the top of the fence it does not look like a home run. Phillies fans should protest and not consider this a win from the Yankees.
Posted: 01:12 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
Actually, Schmidt has a point…The camera which belongs to Fox was in the field of play and therefore interfered with ball just like fan reaching over the fence. Since there no tested and aproved method of calculating the ball’s trajectory, the ruling must be considered interference … at least that’s how i understand it…I could be wrong but iit doesn’t matter though now game over and in the books. It stands.
Posted: 01:13 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Mitch Williams said it himself, To him, Cole Hamels would not start in the World Series, and Cole Proved it again tonight. If he gets rattled to slightest little bit, its over for him. Had that HR by A-Roid not been called a homer, he might have been able to get out of that and next inning. When he gets frustrated AT ALL, he completely loses it. Remember guys this is still the World Series.
Posted: 01:14 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
Not only that the umpires went in to check the call at 1:25 on the epsn video. At 1:45 they come out and say home run. That took less than 20 seconds. No way, whatsoever, total cheating. Now they are saying that before the game the umps rules that if a ball hit a camera it would be ruled a home run and Charlie Manuel said he was unware of that because the umps did not tell him that. Phillies should protest the game, this win by the Yankees does not count and never will.
Posted: 01:15 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Face it, we are playing the Yankees. MLB will do ANYTHING in their power to help the Yankees win the WS. To include NOT putting in a Salary Cap.
Posted: 01:16 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
Ultimately the camera hanging over the fence is the ump’s responsibility. they are responsible for making sure all the boundries are suitable for play.
Posted: 01:18 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
Go to MLB.com and watch the replay. NO WAY is there conclusive evidence the ball is going out. Watch it at 0:39 seconds on the replay. That ball is hitting the top of the fence. The fence is not just the green main part it is also that screen part at the top. If it hits the screen the ball is in play. Also watch the umps they are jogging into the dugout at 1:25 on the video. They come out at 1:45 and signal home run. Took them less than 20 seconds, total cheating. Doesn’t count in my book.
Posted: 01:19 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
And they are saying the made the rule before the game if it hits a camera it is a home run, but Charlie is saying he didn’t know anything about it. Total cheating. At 1:25 the umps are still on the field just going in to look at the replay, at 1:45 they are already out and signaling home run. That is cheating right there. 20 seconds? Watch the replay on mlb.com and tell me how ridiculous it looks with the umps going in at 1:25 and already out at 1:45. Game doesn’t count.
Posted: 01:21 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Seriously though, enough about the freakin home run, some of us are being sore losers. We lost by 3, not by 2. True, I think it was BS, and Queen Cole MIGHT have been to keep it together if that happened because he wouldnt have been rattled as much, but it happened. It was incorrectly ruled a 2 run homer, but the Phils still lost byt more than that home run. Lets stop being sore losers.
Posted: 01:21 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
Wait Schmidt so “now they are saying that before the game the umps rules that if a ball hit a camera it would be ruled a home run and Charlie Manuel said he was unware of that because the umps did not tell him that. Who are they in this instance….you weren’t very clear.
Posted: 01:24 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 mets88
i know you guys are going to be mad that im on your site and all. but you guys are really getting like the yankee fans myself and other new yorkers live with everyday. your getting greedynand ungrateful for what u have. you are in the world series back to back years look at my team and 30 other teams that cant even get in the playoffs back to back years let alone the ws. relax and be grateful your here
Posted: 01:25 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
Yes J Reed the umps said that before the game if a ball hits a camera in the outfield it is a home run and Charlie says he didn’t know anything about it. Its not a home run. I’m not a sore loser and I even like the Yankees and I like A-Rod, however I do not like how they make a call that quick and it changes the game. You don’t put the first runs for a team on the board for them, you make them earn it themselves. It is the wrong call and the Phillies got cheated and I do not count this game as a Yankees win. Even if I was the Yankees, or if it was a Phillie who hit the ball I would not be satisfied. I do not like calls like that. Watch the replay at 0:39 at mlb.com, ball isn’t going out plain and simple.
Posted: 01:28 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
To me I think it is cheating because if Charlie doesn’t know about it nobody knows about it. And if it happend to the Phillies the umps could say that before the game they decided if a ball hit an outfield camera the ball would be in play. So it could have happened to a Phillies hitter and the umps could have said no home run and nobody would have known the difference because Charlie himself knew nothing about.
Posted: 01:30 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
Ball isn’t going out it is clear on the mlb.com replay from 0:38 to 0:41.
Posted: 01:31 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
Brian your point on Cole is well taken he blew chunks all over himself, but the issue is still interesting and doesn’t mean debating it make us sore losers. You have effectively affected the outcome of the game by changing the conditions. There isn’t much that can be done about it but it’s an interesting problem to play around with.
Posted: 01:33 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
I don’t think Cole pitched bad either. When you play well, and the umps put runs on the board against you it is cheating. Cole could have gotten into the 7th with the Phillies ahead 3-0, or 3-1. Watch the replay on mlb.com, umps are still on the field at 1:25, 20 seconds later they supposedly reviewed the play and at 1:45 they are already saying home run. You know that is cheating right there. You have to at least take 2 mintues to review that play. Total nonsense.
Posted: 01:38 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Manny
Cole just sucked. Plain and simple. No excuses.
Posted: 01:38 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
For once I agree with Mets88. @Mike Schmidt, seriously, its over, the Phillies lost by 3 not by 2. Like I said earlier.
Would you rather.
A. Miss the Playoffs
B. Lose in the NLDS
C. Lose in the NLCS
D. go down 2 games to 1 in the World Series to a team who pretty bought the championship.
@Mets88, saying “you guys” is making a pretty drastic generalization. MOST of us on here are VERY grateful to be watching out team in the World Series 2 seasons in a row. the poster with the name Mike Schmidt (sorry but you are giving the real Mike Schmidt a bad name buddy) is flipping out about a very bad call, MOST of us are still grateful to be watching the Phillies in the WS, we are just disappointed by the pitcher who is SUPPOSED to be out Ace, but has realisticly been our 3rd or 4th starter ALL SEASON. We are still NL Champs, and really, down 2-1 with 2 games left in Philly. What happens if the Phillies take the next two games which BTW are IN Philadelphia? The Phillies have a 3-2 lead in the series. Let that stupid freakin bad call go already.
Posted: 01:40 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike Schmidt
He didn’t suck, he had a shutout with 2 outs in the 4th. Texeira should have been called out on strikes. When you earn a shutout through 3 & 2/3 and the umps are telling you, you have up 2 runs it can really hurt your confidence and that is what happend to Cole. How many runs did Cole give up before the umps cheated? 0.
Posted: 01:41 AM on November 1, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
@J Reed, I was not referring to you as a sore loser, I did make it general, in hopes that the individual who is being a sore loser would chill and let it go, but he or she did not. Let it go. Regardless of the call or not, what happens if the rest of the runs were scored the SAME way, and the 2 run A-Roid Homer was not a homer, what would happen? The Phillies lose 6-5.
Posted: 01:43 AM on November 1, 2009