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Beltre, DeRosa, Figgins, or…

Posted by Corey Seidman, Sat, November 14, 2009 02:28 AM | Comments: 98
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When the free agent exclusivity period ends on November 20, a rash of moves will be made by teams attempting to improve for the 2010 season. If last year serves as any indicator, the first few signings won’t shatter the foundation of major league baseball – that is, unless you consider Jeremy Affeldt, Brad Hennessey, Chris Schroder (who?), and Paul McAnulty (who times two?) difference-makers.

While the Bays and Lackeys and Hollidays will eventually come off the board, all logic points to teams taking an extremely patient approach with third baseman. There are six clear-cut starting third baseman available (Figgins, Adrian Beltre, Mark DeRosa, Pedro Feliz, Joe Crede, Melvin Mora,) and two more if you include the recovering Troy Glaus and Miguel Tejada, a shortstop who could easily make the transition to third.

These eight potential starters are competing for seven jobs; the Phillies, Cardinals, Astros, Orioles, Twins, Angels and Mariners are all in need of a third sacker. But of those seven teams, only the Phils, Cardinals, Orioles, and Angels are in position to spend a significant amount of money. The Astros have a high payroll, a bad team, and an even worse farm system. The Mariners, too, have a high payroll. And the Twins are, well, the Twins. Michael Scott spent more on his 12-inch plasma TV than they do in free agency.

This leaves four teams competing over a free agent class of eight men, headed by Figgins (1), Beltre (2), and DeRosa (2a.)

The simple concept of supply and demand tells us that, with more men seeking work than available positions, the burden is on the seller rather than the buyer. Therefore, you shouldn’t expect to see any team cave in and overpay. The exception would be the Angels with Figgins, because I fully expect them to make a push to re-sign their guy.

If the Phils miss out on Figgins, so be it. Based on his age (32), the amount of money he’ll make (3-5 years, roughly $40-60M), and the fear that a player who relies so heavily on his speed faces a rapid decline, Figgins does not fit in with this team. The prediction of 3-5 years/$40-60M is merely an educated guess based on the forecasts of many, but, when recognizing past signings and the fact that Figgins is the fourth best free agent on this year’s market, that projection seems to be accurate.

Beltre

My guess is that none of us would be overly upset if the Phillies signed either Beltre or DeRosa. If Beltre takes over at third, the Phillies won’t miss a beat defensively, but many of the same offensive deficencies from the third base spot will return. During a mediocre/cold streak, Beltre’s GIDPs and low on-base percentage will make him look like Feliz’ long-lost cousin.

However, Beltre has much more upside than Feliz and slightly superior speed. It’s hard to predict what kind of numbers Beltre could put up with the Phils, because I view him as similar to Raul Ibanez. In Seattle, both Ibanez and Beltre were viewed as key run-producers, but here, they¬† make up the sixth and seventh spot in the lineup. Nobody predicted that Ibanez would flourish so quickly in Philly, almost single-handedly carrying this team early in the season, but moving from a pitcher’s park to a hitter’s park and being surrounded by so many other good hitters can do wonders for a player’s offensive output.

The Quaker?

DeRosa is a safer bet. While Beltre shares many of the same skills Feliz possesses, DeRosa represents a different kind of athlete. Despite a pedestrian 2009 season, in which DeRosa slahed .250/.335/.418, he is a high on-base guy with an affinity for the clutch hit. In 2007 and 2008, DeRosa hit .319 with 127 RBI with runners in scoring position, and compiled back-to-back OBPs of .371 and .376. There would be a defensive dropoff, but DeRosa is adequate in the field. The fact that he knows more positions than Peter North is also a plus.

I understand the logic in going for DeRosa. He would change the recent culture of the third base position, as well as the seven-hole. He adds the local element, as this is the obligatory “DeRosa-was-a-quarterback-at-Penn” sentence. And he is a guy the Phillies have coveted for years, even before he became an everyday player.

But I’d rather the team go in a different direction.

No, I’m not advocating the re-signing of Pedro Feliz. If Ruben Amaro wanted to do that, I doubt he would have opted out of Feliz’ contract in the first place. And no, I’m not calling for Miguel Tejada or Dan Uggla to switch positions.

Sign Placido Polanco.

I’ve been researching, analyzing, and discussing this issue for several weeks, and, at the end of each day, I can’t help but face the fact that Polanco would be an absolutely perfect fit. He can hit at the top or bottom of the order, and you know that you’ll get a .300/.350/.410 line from him. He rarely walks, but he never strikes out. He’s a career .309 hitter with runners in scoring position, and his .250 average with two strikes is abnormally high. As a member of the Phillies in 2004, Polanco hit .317/.360/.475 with ten homers in 265 at-bats at Citizens Bank Park.

Polanco hasn’t played third base since 2004, so it is a stretch to imagine him vacating second base. He’s a brilliant defender at second, evidenced by his major-league leading UZR in ’09 (Chase Utley was second.) But, who knows. The Tigers are shopping Curtis Granderson because they are in such need of payroll relief, so it’s hard to imagine Dave Dombrowski opening the checkbook for Polanco.

If I’m Ruben Amaro, I offer the 34 year-old Polanco something along the lines of 3 years/$18M. Six million dollars a year for three years is a bargain for a player who would add as much as Polanco, and it would be tough for him to say no. After all, Polanco is coming off of a 4 year/$18M deal that he signed as a 31 year-old. I can’t imagine too many other teams would be willing to offer him as much as six million per year.

Would it be overpaying? Probably. Would it be worth it? Absolutely. Polanco’s steady bat would add another dimension to an already formidable Phillies offense. He’s the kind of guy you want leading off an inning, coming up after a Jayson Werth or Raul Ibanez single, or batting with two outs and the bases loaded. With strikeouts coming at every other spot in the order, Polanco would assure that the ball would be put in play at the bottom, where he and Carlos Ruiz would reside. And if Jimmy Rollins or Shane Victorino struggle, Polanco could easily move up to the 1- or 2-hole.

If Polanco is adamant about staying at second base, this is all moot. But, to steal a line from Ted DiBiase, “everyone has a price.”

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  • Posts: 0 greeninil

    Placido is a very solid player. Signing him would be a great move!

     
  • Posts: 0 Dave

    I couldn’t agree more…sign Polanco. He played a more than solid 3B for us when he was here. His play at 2B this year proves he still has “it” and he’s on record as being willing to move to 3B. Offensively, he’s an excellent situational hitter. How many times during the season and postseason in particular did we not move runners? Polanco knows how to play. We have a lot of talent…he’s a glue guy that helps bring it all together. The other thing he’ll do is ensure against Utley burning out while allowing Dobbs more innings at 3B making him more effective in turn as a PH. I believe Dobb’s dropoff had a direct correlation to seeing less pitches. I believe Polanco is better at 3B defensively than DeRosa and he’s about a half year younger than him as well…for some reason people talk about his age and not DeRosa’s.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ralph

    I agree with the Polanco idea. He is great in the clubhouse, is a gold glove caliber infielder and a solid offensive player. He played 3b here before, in this park and knows the fans and most of the team. Let’s not make the same mistake again on him, the first one being getting rid of him to keep David Bell. Although Wade is now in Houston…whew

     
  • Posts: 0 Good Night Joe Carter

    Should never have traded him for Ugie in the first place.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    You’re an idiot. You were not correct in any assumption or evaluation that you made other than that Polanco rarely strikes out. If you’ve ever watched Beltre play a whole game at 3B, you’d see that his skills are comparitive to Ibanez in LF. A more reasonable way for you to direct the Phils to move would be to sign Mike Lowell to a 1 year deal at $2-3 mm with a mutual option for 2011, and continue to look at bolstering the bench (as Ruben has said) with Alex Cora-type players who sign with short term contracts with relatively low risk. Signing players through their late 30′s to FA contracts is a sure way to put this team back into the Von Hayes Dark Ages.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    In defense of Ed Wade’s trade of Polanco instead of letting him take over third: no one in his right mind would have wanted David Bell’s contract. He was too expensive and too old. The Phils had a second base surplus and someone had to be moved.

    Polanco hasn’t played third for a while. Third involves reflexes and as a player ages, that’s one of the first things to go, unless he’s played a reflex-type position regularly. That could be a concern, although in Polanco’s case, his batting average with two strikes would indicate he can still react, at least to pitched balls. He may or may not be able to adapt to a new position.

    Age is definitely a factor. That’s why DeRosa, to me, would be a bad choice as a starter. His play in 2009 was worse than previous years; Polanco’s was not, but could be in a year or two. If he gets a long contract, the Phils may end up with a Geoff Jenkins situation in his final year, paying him not to play.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Mike Lowell for a year? Surely this is sarcasm. Victorino can walk to his position faster than Lowell can run. Trading for Lowell (he’s still under contract with Boston) would be even worse than the Von Hayes deal.

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Chuck, no need to resort to name-calling, just say you disagree. I absolutely agree with signing PP, said so yesterday, but not as convincingly as Corey.

    Mike Lowell? Get a grip, Chuck!

     
  • Posts: 0 ben

    The fact that he knows more positions than Peter North is also a plus.

    thats the greatest line ever written on this site, my apologies to malcom and gallen.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Lowell is signed to an expensive contract. THe Red Sox have been unable to shed his BAD contract. No freakin way. Polanco would be good if they want to spend more money elsewhere on the team. Hes old though. I like Beltre because hes younger. That would be my choice if you cant have Figgins and dont want to spend all that money.

     
  • Posts: 0 Tom

    You can’t help but think Polanco is on the downside of a very steady career. Since he hit his high water mark in 2007, hitting .341, his average has subsequently tumbled each of the next two years, to .307 and then to this year’s .285. If you can sign him for two years, fine, but I can’t imagine a situation where Polanco is anything more than a $6 million bench player in the third year of that contract.

    I don’t want any of these guys for three years though. One option not mentioned, how about Garrett Atkins? Reports are saying he’ll be released if the Rockies can’t find a trade partner, which they won’t. Last year these guy just lost his swing, but prior to that, he was one of the best in the league.

    Looking at his BABIP, in his monster 2006 year he recorded nearly a .350 BABIP, but last year was extremely unlucky at .250. In 2007, he’s BABIP fell to a normal .290, but he still hit .301.

    He’s by no means a stud in the field, but he was adequate, recroding a UZR of just -0.4. I think he’s worth a shot, as he has the skillset to bounce back, much like Jeff Francoeur seems to have done with the Mets.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    They need someone who will give you three years, maybe with a fourth year club option. THey have NO 3B in the system and if they picked one finally THIS year in the draft – even a college player – thats still 2 years at the earliest before someone is ready.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Atkins needs to lose weight. (Funny)

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Why not Kouzmenoff for Kendrick and another prospect. The Padres have headley who is a solid 3b. I thought they had 3 young OFs, but just realized they traded Hairston to the A’s. Kouz hits lefties better than Feliz and would hit 25+ in CBP. I think a guy like Kendrick could do well at Petco park.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Thats a good money saving alternative. Allows money to be spent on pitching.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jamie

    I like the idea of bringing Polanco back. DeRosa would be second in my book, with Beltre and Feliz an even third. And I loved the Peter North reference…definitely funny.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    I’d hate to see Kendrick go. With Moyer’s health, Martinez’s free agency, and the fact that Drabek still has hardly any AAA experience, Kendrick might be the only realistic option as a fifth starter. And nothing says the Padres would want him, anyway. That kind of trade saves no money, either, because Kendrick is still under team control and doesn’t cost enough to worry about.

     
  • Posts: 0 Joey B baby

    line-up vs leftys
    w/ figgins: figgins, vic, utley, werth, howard, jroll, ibanez, ruiz, vs rightys switch werth & howard, jroll & ibanez
    w/ beltre: jroll (cuz chollie wont move him w/o the pressure of a true leadoff plus not many other good options with the current lineup), vic, utley, werth, howard, beltre, ibanez, ruiz, vs rightys switch werth & howard, beltre & ibanez
    w/ derosa: jroll, vic, utley, werth, howard, ibanez, derosa, ruiz, vs rightys switch werth & howard
    w/ polanco (wat i think it should be): vic, polanco, utley, werth, howard, jroll, ibanez, ruiz, but we all know chollie wont move jroll, but again this is wat it should be, vs rightys switch werth & howard, jroll & ibanez

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Another problem with trading for Kouzmanoff is that his offensive stats aren’t really much different than Feliz’s. Low OBP. Struck out 139 times in ’08. He might get a few more home runs, and he’s younger, but if his defense isn’t up to Feliz’s, I don’t see him as an upgrade.

     
  • Posts: 0 Al

    When you have a guy like Mike Schmidt ranting and raving about the defensive skills of Pedro Feliz, he must have some excellent skills. You knew Pedro Feliz was a .250 hit, going to get you 80 RBI and hit 20 bombs. One must remember last year Pedro was playing over half the season with back issues which required off-season back surgery. This year he led the team with runners in scoreing position, sure he offensive stunk in the post season, look so did everyone else. The 10 million dollar man striking out 13 times when it counted the most. Ruben you should pull your head out of your ass, resign Feliz. However, if I was Pedro I would tell you to F off, as you slapped him in the face.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    It saves money bc you dont have to overpay for a free agent 3B. Kouzmanoff is just entering arbitration.

    Kouzmanoffs numbers last season: .255AVG/.302OBP/.722 OPS/18HR/88RBI/27BB/106SO.

    Eh, thats an OK cheap option. Just ok. BUT, thats not much different offensively than feliz for much less money.

    Thats a good, solid Plan C I think.

     
  • Posts: 0 BS

    Polanco’s a type A free agent isn’t he? My only hesitation with him is, I don’t think he’s worth giving up a 1st round pick for.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dave

    Al you pointed something out that makes a lot of sense. Feliz actually does hit like he has a back problem (which he does). He is the least flexible hitter I’ve ever seen and just can’t hit the ball where it’s pitched. He has a one-plane swing and hence a lot of weak at-bats and Amaro is looking to improve in a position where a guy is an FA and they have an escape. He’s a decent mistake hitter and I think a fantastic defensive player. Along with being a good guy. But there is room for improvement in the area of fundamental baseball (situational hitting) and also bench strength. Signing a versatile player like Polanco does both. I don’t disagree regarding a 3 year deal being one year longer than preferred. But I wouldn’t sign a younger guy just because he’s younger or a riskier stopgap with our 2 to 3 year window.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Yeah he is. NO WAY would I sign him as a type A…..

     
  • Posts: 0 Bill

    I have to disagree with you in regards to Polanco. The Phillies need to get younger and signing a guy just a year younger than Feliz is not a step in that direction.

    While I agree that Beltre may look like Feliz’s lost cousin, his upside is much higher and he is 4 years younger. He is also an even better fielder than Pedro. While Beltre may not be completely ideal, I think he is the best option.

    http://www.mlbcomplete.com

     
  • Posts: 0 2010 WF Fightins

    I like Feliz. But I wouldn’t mind if Ruben secured 3rd base for the future as Feliz will certainly be gone after next season regardless. I’m not sure who fits the bill. Just not Figgins(too costly). Derosa/Beltre sound good to me. Polanco?? Boring, but a maybe a safe alt. I still say resign Feliz for one year, go get Doc and tune up the BP. We have all the O we need.

    Charlie has shown in 2007/2009 that he really struggles to manage a pitching staff in October. 2008 was a pretty easy set-up for him. Doc/Lee=insane amount of potential complete games. I wanted him last year after we got Lee. If we had him of course we’d be going for the 3peat in 2010. People can bring up Howard’s 13k’s all they want, but it was Charlie who blindly failed to switch around the lineup to kick start the O and balance it out like he did last year. Especially Game 6.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dave

    Good point regarding type A FA and Polanco. I’m mindful of that and getting younger, especially given that we could see some guys leave in free agency after the next two years. But I’m more than a little concerned about the fact that Beltre has played 12 seasons in the bigs and we’re still talking about his upside. He broke in at 19. He’s played a lot of baseball and could already be on the downside. Some other guys who broke in at 19 and all saw significant decline after 30: Ken Griffey Jr and Andruw Jones.

     
  • Posts: 0 Keystone

     
  • Posts: 0 NateB

    although it’s fun to speculate, i think any of the options (Feliz, DeRosa, Polanco, Figgins, or Beltre) will work fine for our lineup. all we need is a number 7 hitter in the lineup. BUT on the other hand, we NEED some middle relievers, a backup closer, and even another top of rotation starter (what if Happ has his sophmore slump? and Moyer is 47 and injured). PITCHERS!!!!

     
  • Posts: 312 Corey Seidman

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    I guess I’m in the minority here, but with the Phillies window being NOW, I don’t really see losing a #1 draft pick as that big of a deal.

    Worst case scenario, that #1 never even makes it to the big leagues. Best case, he does in five or six years. And that #1 pick could just as easily be Matt Belisle or Taylor Tankersley as it could be Cole Hamels or Chase Utley.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    If the Phils are going to trade for a third baseman, they’ve got to go for someone better than Kouzmanoff. He’s just not an upgrade except maybe for age.

    Trading for someone really good is not a cheaper option, because it would cost someone good, and someone good would cost just as much in pay as a free agent.

    Note that the Phils are after a player who’s a definite upgrade. They’ll be picky about it, too, or they wouldn’t still be considering Feliz as a backup plan.

    It’s obvious they have no intentions right now of going for starting pitching. They’re relying on Hamels to rebound. A cheap alternative isn’t what the front office has in mind, whether we like it or not, and trading Kendrick when the fifth starter slot is up in the air would only be considered if they really did intend to sign a better pitcher.

     
  • Posts: 312 Corey Seidman

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    Kevin Kouzmanoff is an awful, awful answer. It’s hard to believe anybody would consider a guy who walks less and strikes out more than Feliz, plays worse defense, and has had more seasons with a below average OPS than an above average OPS, an upgrade.

    Yes, he’s 28. But so are Matt Murton, Jeremy Reed, and Jeff Baker. Age doesn’t matter unless a player is, you know, good.

     
  • Posts: 0 2010 WF Fightins

    The ’93 Phillies were a starting pitcher short of baseball immortality. So too was this 2009 squad. When will these old farts ever learn?? We don’t know how Figgins/Derosa/Beltre would fit in. We also don’t know what Hamels will give us next year. Will he ever develop another pitch?? But we all sure know what Doc has to offer. And our bench situation won’t be all that bad in 2010. Dobbs will be healthy. Cairo at min could replace the Beard. We’ll have Ben Fran for the whole season and let’s not forget about Mayberry Jr. and some other Triple A farm dudes that may come up next season. And of course we expect Ruben to make a couple of moves as well. We need the Doctor.

     
  • Posts: 0 2010 WF Fightins

    By old farts I’m reff to the Phils front office(well a few of them at least). 2008 was a bit of a surprise. Some would say more than a little. We ain’t surprising nobody anymore. We need two work horses on our staff.

     
  • Posts: 0 joedad

    Polanco’s bat would be a plus but what do you do with him if he is a subpar 3rd baseman? He hasn’t played 3rd base in 5 years. His arm may have weakened or his reaction time may have slowed. I would have a difficult time signing him to a 3 year deal without a backup plan

     
  • Posts: 0 2010 WF Fightins

    joedad….. I didn’t know that about Polanco. I thought he played 3rd for sometime in Detroit. Guess not. If only Mr. Middleton would just buy the team for all his own…… Then this discussion would be moot. He did chip in to help the Phils sign Jim Thome. Why not jump in and help us get the Doc good sir…………..

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Who’s Peter North?

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 130 Amanda Orr

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    I’d be happy with Figgins, but I’d look for somebody else because of 1) cost, and 2) struggles against lefties.

    Figgins hit .246 against lefties this year, and .323 against right. The Phillies have enough lefties in the lineup, so they really need somebody to hit lefties. And even if Figgins becomes a Phillie, I don’t think Manuel would move JRoll out of the lead-off spot, despite Figgins’ better OBP.

    Beltre, DeRosa, Polanco, Figgins, I’d be happy with either one.

     
  • Posts: 0 ther Man the Legend

    Rumor has it Garrett atkins will be cut at any time because of lack of interest at the gm meetings last week the rockies want the inevitable done….With his realationship with chase what is thought of him in philly?!!!!!!

     
  • Posts: 312 Corey Seidman

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    I don’t think Atkins’ days as Chase Utley’s college teammate have anything to do with him playing third base for the Phillies.

    Atkins’ numbers have gotten worse every year. He’s not the answer at third base for the Phils, and it wouldn’t even make baseball sense for the Rockies to release him.

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Corey, First of all I never said Kouz was an upgrade. He is however a cheap alternative. Let’s look at the stats though. He has a better OPS and OBP than Feliz so he’s an offensive upgrade. He’s not a bad fielder at all. He is no Feliz, but Pedro is on his way down. Feliz’ power production has dropped 4 straight years despite playing in CBP. 12 HRs at CBP as a 3B is putride. Kouz is a clear 25-30 HR, 90+ RBI guy in CBP. At a cost of less than $1 mil he’s a valid alternative. If the Phils spend 5+ on 3rd base forget adding starting pitching or adding top shelf relief. Something has to give and IMO it’s 3b. I should add that Kouz is a major upgrade over Feliz against Lefties which is what the Phils really need. Sprinkle in Dobbs 15-20 games against righties and I think it works.

     
  • Posts: 312 Corey Seidman

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    I understand. Keep in mind, though, that 2010 is Kouzmanoff’s first arbitration year. That $432,000 salary will turn into $1.5-2.5M. It’s not as if you’d be getting him super cheap.

    Polanco, Beltre, and DeRosa are all massive upgrades over Kouzmanoff, and well worth the extra few million bucks a year.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    The Rox have 2 players they are not going to pursuit. Looks like Atkins will be one of them and Betancourt the other.
    2 positions from one team, that would be prime. Atkins still has a lot of upside as he will be 30 next year. Other than last year his average hovered around .300 and he seems to be a genuine rbi guy with 20 (+) hr potential.
    Betancourt seems to be plus on the Eyre situation. A certified setup pitcher with a proven record, good k/bb ratio.
    Atkins made 7 mil last year, Betancourt was not resigned for just over 5 mil.
    Sounds worth a look.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I’ll take Polanco. Can sign him to a relatively short contract which is consistent with the time horizon of the team as presently constituted. Would be fine in the field. You won’t find many teams that do not require power from its 3B but we would be one. .290, walk, bunt, hit and run, with a decent glove and I’m happy. And at the right price.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    We shouldnt see Kouzmanoff as a primary or secondary, or even tertiary plan.

    Also, we dont know whether Detriot will offer arbitration to Polanco. If they DO NOT, then you move in on him as an option because his Type A status would be voided.

    If you cant get Figgins, if you cant get DERosa, if you cant get Beltre, if you cant get Polanco, THEN Kouzmanoff is an option as a fallback. BUT it wont come to that because of Corey’s analysis. The 4 teams that can really spend on a free agent 3B will most likely get the 4 best player.

    Whats intriguing me is where do we all think Feliz will end up?

    If I were the Pirates or someone like that Id move in for the capture to buy time for their top prospect Alvarez to come up. The Orioles have Bell waiting in the wings as well (they got him from the Dodgers in the Sherrill trade).

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Fair enough if his cost rises to 15. mil. No way on Atkins. Figgins is too expensive and too many years. Derosa seems iffy as an everday guy(would love his bat against lefties). What would Beltre cost for 3 years?

     
  • Posts: 0 phillip phan

    Signing Polanco is the worst possible move. A third baseman needs to hit for power or in the case of Figgins make up for the lack of power with blazing speed. They tried Polanco. Either sign Beltre or Figgins or bring back Pedro. Signing Polanco is like signing Dave Magaden to replace Howard. Please!!!! We need to maintain champioship calibre personnel.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Again, I say if you’re going to trade, you trade for someone better than Kouzmanoff. He may hit marginally better than Feliz, but that’s not really what the front office seems to be looking for, or they’d just resign Feliz.

    Signing Beltre, Figgins, DeRosa, Polanco, or anyone else depends on dollars, contract length, and interest from other teams, and it will vary amongst them. None of them may be the candidate the Phils will sign because of those factors.

    I agree that more pitching would be nice, due to a possible sophomore jinx with Happ, or Hamels not rebounding. There’s a question mark on the 5th starter, too. If Halladay could be had for a few questionable prospects I’d say go for it. But he’ll still be incredibly expensive, even for one year, and I think the team will pass. Right now the biggest question mark is the bullpen, what with Lidge’s surgery, Romero’s surgery, the possible retirement of Eyre, and the inconsistency of Durbin.

    That’s probably where the money will go, and third may still end up being manned by Feliz. I don’t think that would be the end of the world.

     
  • Posts: 0 Greg

    Ruben needs to make a deal to get Roy Holliday.Pitching wins
    championships.They need to win now,suck up the 15 million and
    make the move.Hamels is over rated,so you need the double Aces
    with Lee and Holliday.
    He then needs to sign Mike Gonzales because he
    fits what the phils need, a lefty reliever who could be the closer if
    Lidge fails again.
    At thirdbase,Feliz or Derosa.

     
  • Posts: 0 Paujoe

    I’m ok with Felix if he’d come back.

     
 
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