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I believe it was a $9 Million on Lee.

Good luck @ the doctor’s Scotty, Raul and Brad. I hope they heal quickly while on break.

It’s obvious that Chone Figgins is a huge upgrade at the plate. But how much will we compromise on Defense if we can bring him in?

Out of curiosity, I checked out both of Feilz and Figgins’ fielding stats for 2009. Looks pretty much identical to me. You decide:

RK PLAYER GP TC PO A E DP FPCT
08 Chone Figgins 154 437 109 314 14 38 .968

RK PLAYER GP TC PO A E DP FPCT
11 Pedro Feliz 155 437 110 312 15 35 .966

I know it’s only one year but Figgins is 3 years younger than Feliz and can only get better.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding/_/position/3b/order/true

Figgins is a switch hitter that kills righties, but is pretty bad against lefties. Not exactly what the Phillies need.

Just got home from the parade. Thought I’d thank you all for a great day. If a team that coud perform decently got into the World Series, today might never have happened…

And, dude, no one here did anything for the Phils but you’ll all talk crap about everyone else so that shot at NY’s mayor was weak. Nice that you know who our mayor is, though. I could trip over Philadelphia’s mayor and I wouldn’t know who he was.

Seriously, its ok if you hate NY. The fact that you have to take time to think abou NY’ers means we win. Other than during the Phillies’ presence in the World Series and when we feel like watching Rocky movies, we forget Philadelphia and all of your sorry asses are even part of the country.

and i know we are all hating on feliz right now… but there’s that defense, hitting howard in the chest on every throw… and he knocked in 80 rbis this season. It does pain me to watch him swing at the first pitch and kill an at bat or an inning, but where did those 80 rbis come from? he had to do something right this season.

can we please have accounts before next season starts? it’ll be nice to not have the random trolls that think they’re funny.

150 days until the 2010 season starts!

BTW, so I’m not a complete troll, keeping Lee was a great move for the Phils.

Of course, it was as insightful as drinking when you’re thirsty but, considering the boneheaded moves made by Charlie Manuel, you shouldn’t take even that level of intelligence for granted.

is Beltre faster than Feliz?

just get someone else besides feliz…as for the pitching they gotta find another starter with myers going and i don’t see pedro being brought back and get some more arms in the bullpen.

where do you guys think myers will go?i wouldn’t be surpised to see him and astro with ed wade being there and they neeed pitching there…as for the phils pitching staff,yes they need another reliable starter…i think they should be in the ben sheets rich harden talks,yes both are injury prone,but are high risk high reward if you sign them you know.

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Feliz isn’t a problem, but that’s a position that can be upgraded with a high OBP guy (Figgins) to make the lineup work better. I love Jimmy Rollins, but he’s never been and will never be a leadoff hitter. His poor pitch selection, inability to work a count, and insistence of swinging for the fences in every AB hurts the lineup more than helps it. His ONLY concern batting leadoff should be getting on base and setting the table for the big guys. His OBP was probably the lowest of any big league leadoff hitter. The Yankees first two hitters consistently got on base in the WS and Rollins & Victorino were invisible. The majority of the Phillies WS HRs were solo shots. The Yankees or already talking about making a run at Matt Holliday…why can’t the Phillies at least consider Figgins? They have a ton of dead weight coming off the books, they’ll probably have 81 sellouts next year, and you can bet there will be a ticket price increase announced in the upcoming weeks.

Eaton, Feliz, Myers and Jenkins are all coming off the payroll this year.. Thats 34 million off of it, and with the last run to the world series we should have some spending room.

Sheets and Harden are high risk high reward, but also probablyhigh dollars in a thin market. Hamels has more upside, despite a mediocre season. Everyone seems to think 2008 was his only good year, but 2007 he was 15-5, and his rookie year he was above .500. He’s won 48 games in three plus years, and although he’s sometimes had injuries, his DL stints are not even close to Harden’s, or the fast aging Sheets.

The Phils can’t sign Halliday, because he’s not a free agent this year, and even without Ricciardi’s ridiculous demands he’d cost too much in a trade.

Even with home game sellouts, payrolls have limits. You can’t sign or trade for everybody. Even the moneyed Yanks don’t have all-stars at every position.

Myers -12M
Eaton – 9M
Jenkins – 7M
Thome – 3M
Feliz -3.5M (They’ll owe him $2M for not picking up his option ($5.5M))
Stairs -1M

Which is $35.5M off the books in 2010 and Moyer’s $8M goes away in 2011.

There’s also no reason why the payroll needs to remain the same as 2009. There’s a window of opportunity with this nucleus for the next two seasons, it would be a shame to waste it by not being agressive.

Also JRoll will lead off next year, he is our lead off hitter and had a down year, I think the world baseball classic had something to do with it. He like Cole will have something to prove next year. Be aggressive in pitching, pitching and Pitching, both starter and pen help. Lidge too, though he might not be perfect like 08 he will be far better than 09. He was definatly hurt, IMO you tweek things a little but do not mess with the core of this team, and that is the entire infield, and out field. I say you pick up Feliz option, and look for a 3rd basemen that is a year or two away, and put him in AA or AAA and bring him up through the system.
That is how you make a long term winning team

Well, maybe some of you (most) would like to forget Jamie Moyer’s still on the roster, but on DNL yesterday, when Ruben was asked about the 5th starter, first name out of his mouth was, in fact, Jamie Moyer!

Please feel free to freak out now….

How about Tejada at 3rd? Hits lefties really well and would see an increase in his power production at CBP?

I’m actually cool with Jamie Moyer being our 5th starter. He could fight it out with an improved KK, Drabek later in the season… and if we need additional pitching, we can get it mid-season.

I’m fine with pitcher #5, but the Phils need a #2 or #3 they have confidenc in to pitch in the playoffs. Clearly they don’t think Blanton can.

Jamie will be fine as a number 5 starter. As a 5, your job is to basically not suck. Pedro greatly exceeded expectations as a number 5. He pitched better than any of us, myself included, could have possibly expected. He just ran out of gas at the end. Our rotation is set 1 through 4. Granted, there are question marks about Hamels, but there are always question marks in any rotation. I’d go into a playoff series with a rotation of Lee, Hamels, Happ and Blanton.

Look for the Phillies to put extra effort in strengthening their bench and their bullpen. There are so many questions about the bullpen that there’s no way they won’t sign some extra relievers that could actually push some of the fringe guys like Condrey and Durbin out if everyone stays healthy. Look for them to add another lefty besides Eyre or Romero, because the Phillies shouldn’t bank on them coming back healthy.

so 4 lefties and a righty. I am over Moyer and the grace period from the the league switch is over. he now has undergone surgery for a Sportsman Hernia at 47. The strike zone is getting to small and he is always getting squeezed. You can talk about location all you want but without the corners your talking about little room to locate anything. Patient line-ups will continue to tear him up. He has a place as a long man as the change in speeds will require hitters to readjust or as the crafty lefty against inexperienced line-ups. He has no business in the starting rotation

Agreed totally on Moyer, Im not even sure he will make the roster all together, they will not wait around for him be sure of that. THey will trade for or sign SOME KIND of starter (right handed), not necessarily a number 2, but a solid guy.

MOyer is done I think. He may not retire yet, but people should stop relying on him for ANYTHING.

I agree 100% with J Reed. Dubee’s value as a pitching coach must at least be evaluated…issues with Madson’s location and mechanics, Hamels’ inability to develop a biting curve, Lidge’s issues. I just have to wonder if another pitching coach could help them adjust more…but can’t argue with Happ’s year, and of course, two NL championships.

By the way, if the Phils had won the WS, the last place I would go to gloat would be a Yankees blog…did any of us visit a Rays blog last year to place some salt in the wound? It’s kind of sad to put your WHOLE identity into a baseball organization, especially when all you can do is cheer for them, and support them by buying tickets, merchandise, etc. That’s it. Why troll an opposing team’s blog and add nothing to the conversation? I respect the Yankees organization, loving the game of baseball as I do, but let’s face it, chest thumping is really not paying respect to the game. All that shows is a fan would rather gloat after a win than respect the game. That’s sad. And I bet the Yankees players would agree.