Phillies Fall Short as Yankees win World Series

Posted by Pat Gallen, Thu, November 05, 2009 01:28 AM | Comments: 209
2009 Recaps, Posts, World Series 2009


Remember the chilly April, the awesome May, the blistering July, and the September that sealed it up.  Remember the death of a legend.  Remember the thrilling comebacks, the five all-stars, and a third straight division crown.  Remember the late night’s against the Rockies, the “Beat LA” chants, and everything in between.

Remember it all; store it away for the long, cold winter, because this year was a success no matter how you look at it.

The Philadelphia Phillies lost this game 7-3, and in the process relinquished their spot at the top.  However, they never stopped fighting.  From minute one of the 2009 season, this team has fought until it could no longer fight, and in this case, the final fight came in Game 6 of the World Series.

For the 27th time in their history, the New York Yankees took home the title, with Hideki Matsui taking the World Series MVP.  It was a hell of a series, and a hell of a season for the Yankees who finished with 114 wins combining the regular season and playoffs.  Phillies Nation congratulates them on fine season.

As for the Phillies, there will certainly be questions abound as to how things will change in the offseason.  The core of this team is intact for yet another run, so while this loss stings, they have the make up to do it one more time.

A wise man once said, “all good things come to an end.”  It’s an amazing feat that the Phillies made it back to the World Series a year after winning the whole thing.  Next year, this team will regroup and give it everything they have to try and get to yet another World Series.

To sum up this season, it’s hard to complain about what this club was able to accomplish.  Overall, 102 wins is nothing to shake a stick at, so cherish all of the great moments this 2009 Phillies team gave us.

The Phillies will be back next season, and with them will come the same tenacity, passion, and energy they brought for all of 2009.  High hopes, everyone.

See you boys next year. And to Phillies Nation, always remember.

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  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    @Morris and Mike D: I’m not Irish; I’m Jewish, but we also have had more than our fair share of tragedy and have learned to deal with it in our own way: by making humor out of it.

    I first became a partial season ticket holder in that awful 2000 season. I stayed until the end of the game in 40 degree weather, while they were suffering double-digit losses. They won only 2 our 16 scheduled games. They ended the season 30 games behind, just barely over .400. We said that we should write our season tickets off of our taxes as a charitable expense, supporting the handicapped. Certainly, we reasoned, we did not get anything of value in exchange for what we paid. But when the season ticket invoice came up in 2001, we re-upped. And we did it again and again. And when we started getting post-season options a few years later, I paid them, because who knew? I told the sales office on the phone, “I don’t think they’re going to make it, but if they do and I don’t have tickets, I’ll kick myself.” But they never made it. One year, they were so far behind that I didn’t bother to pay the invoice, because there was no way they were going to win the division. That was 2007. Oops. But they played so miserably in the NLDS that we had no regrets about missing it and saving $50 each on the tickets. Then came 2008, and though they were a few games behind when the time came to pay the postseason invoice, I didn’t hesitate. We got to see a World Series game, go to a parade, be there in the stadium when Chase Utley called us World Phucking Champions.

    This season, I watched my Phils dominate the division for most of the year, and though they had slumps, it always seemed like they were going to do the impossible, win the World Series two years in a row. They ended 2 games shy of a feat that has not been accomplished in decades, and accomplished a feat that the Phillies have never done before (back-to-back World Series appearances). That’s nothing to be ashamed of. I will wear my Back-To-Back National League Champions t-shirt with pride while I buy the Turkey Hill Yankees ice cream for my friends at work this morning…

  • Posts: 0 keng

    totally agree that the better team won – which makes it ok – think about how it owuld feel if we were clearly the better team and we just blew it – but we showed pretty well in this series under the circumstances!

    one thing for sure – we cant play the yankees again and expect to win without a legit top end #2 between lee and hamels – and on top of that lee has to be extended and hamels has to work thru his problems and get his shit back together

    we also cant play without a significantly better and more reliable bullpen – the only guy i had any conficence in this series and would like to see in a similar role next year is chan ho park! – as for lidge we just cant have him as the ONLY closer option as we saw this year – and im afraid that madson just doesnt have the make up to close or perform under this much pressure!

    also should add a strong left fielder to go with ibanez – for the sake of platooning if necessary and for the sake of a much stronger bench – keeping in mind extent to which that guy is critical in the series in the american league parks as the dh

    my son said – maybe this is just as well – bc last year was a little more exciting than this – we were fighting for something we wanted and didnt get – as opposed as fighting to preserve something – now were fighting for something we wanted but didnt get again – and our sights are clearly set on waht we have to do to accomplish that

    finally – one last point! – the american league with the designated hitter will always have the slight edge in the world series – they put teams together to have 10 strong hitters – and they have 10 hitters who get 150 to 162 games of experience thru the season – so in their parks when we have to bat 10 they have a distinct advantage – we cant come up with that 10th who matches their 10th (hits well but doesnt necessarily play good defence) – in our park however they can of course just cut out their weakest player to get to 9! – oh well! – i always go with the underdogs anyway!!!

  • Posts: 0 bfo_33

    Maybe I’m a loser, but I never want to be in the position that if it doesn’t end with a ring, the season is a failure. Overall, a great year for the Phils. They’ve kept me entertained from April through early Nov – can’t ask for much more (well, maybe two more wins). So many highlights – too hard to process right now. Congrats to the Yanks, we’ll be back next year.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    It’s simple guys and gals. The Phillies lost to a team that executed and probably, was better overall. The Phillies had some weaknesses and the post season is designed among other things to expose them. The fact that the Phillies got back to the Series as easily as they did shows how much better they are than the rest of the National League. Not something to be ashamed of. Sure there is some work to be done. Personally, I am fine with Lidge being the closer next year. I also think Hamels will improve. Maybe he will never be the 20 win ace that we want him to be but he can be a very good number 2 guy. As much as I would love the Phillies to sign a guy like Chone Figgins and have him lead off and move Rollins down to 6th, I honestly think I would rather they go after a guy like Beltre, at least then they have 2 right handed batters with some pop. Rollins just needs to spend this off season learning how to be a good lead off hitter. He does not need to hit 300 but he does need to learn how to work a count and get on base more. As for pitching. I would love for them to extend Lee but I am telling you right now it won’t happen. What he did in the post season jacked up his price tag big time. They can’t afford him. I’d like to see Blanton back, don’t forget about Moyer, though I don’t think he is the answer, he is still under contract. Same with Happ and we also have Drabek to consider.

    The bench and the bullpen are the biggest weaknesses and hopefully the front office which showed it can make some brilliant moves as well not make some moves that clearly need to be made.

    Although I am disappointed with how the season ended I am certainly not disappointed with the team. Getting back to the Series a year after winning it is an accomplishment that a handful of teams have ever done, the Phillies are now one of those teams. Be grateful and be happy. It may take a day or two to get there, but get there. Being miserable and angry won’t carry you through the next 151 days until opening day. In the worlds of the immortal Arnold “I’ll be back.” And they will be.

  • Posts: 0 bob

    Dont know who that idiot is that posted “NY owns Philly”….

    So proud of this team. They never quit. It looked bleak down 3-1 and then sent it back to NY. They got runners on all night, just fell short.

    That’s a hell of a time they played and they went toe to toe.

    This team came to the park day in and out and busted their asses. They truly played “all 27 outs”. This hurts but there is nothing to be ashamed of.


    Another pennant will be raised at the Bank, lets get after another.

    Upgrade the bench and bullpen…..we can debate all that later on.

    GO PHILLIES! Thank you for bringing everything you had, thank you for the thrills. HK, Whitey, Vuk and co are so damn proud of you.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    First and foremost, congrats to the Yankees. We simply lost to the better team. As to the classy Yankees fans on here, thank you for being so. This was the World Series we all secretly wanted to see and yes, losing does hurt. Alot. However, what makes me angriest is the apparant lack of class of the entire Yankees organization and their fans. (Not all of you). Example #1: chanting who’s your daddy at a man who doesn’t even know his father. I understand it’s a joke-but really? And what about the “Thank you Phillies” chant they going on there at the end? Not to mention that not ONE person, from Selig to Girardi to anyone on the team said congrats to the Phillies.

    It’s hard NOT to believe that the lack of salary cap played a huge part in this World Series. However, Philly is no secondary market. We have plenty of money as well; we simply have a notoriously stingy organization. We could have bought the talent as well.

    Bottom line is: we did not show up to this World Series. After the first game I saw a complete lack of heart and fight on our end. It’s no coincidence that the two games we did win were pitched by Cliff Lee. Many questions will have to be answered during this offseason; however, I feel as if this is only the beginning for the Phillies.

    Also, please tell me something is going to be done about those umps. The past 6 games, I’ve seen some of the worst calls I have seen in baseball.

  • Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova

    Congrats to the Yankees, they were the better team!

    ON the other hand, I am annoyed at baseball with the lack of respect our boys got during this post season. We were the returning champs, and they were not on TNT until the Series. Philly is a big market believe it or not. anyhow enough about that.

    I watched the entire celebration and one thing stuck out to me from last year. The Phillies started their 28 years of long waited celebration with congratulating the Rays on a great series and a great season.
    The Yankees were all about me, me and more me. I guess just a very different organization with different pressures. That would be why I would never support a classless team like them. Great players, great team, but just classless winners. My take, I am sad for my team but not really bitter, just think its interesting watch different organizations and how they prioritize their acknowledgments.

  • Posts: 0 ray

    John Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 3:09 am

    Great season. Your team didnt lose cause it sucked. It just lost because it didnt execute. You had the players–as I said one scout rated only 1 yank position player over the Phills. You just as easily could have won. Your team really had no right trying to buy the WS. Get some success first to justify spending money because money doesnt buy the WS

    This will go down as one of the most moronic comments of all time. They bought arod and sabathia, burnett, just in the past year. The phillies traded talent for lee. They signed a modest player in ibanez, not a superstar. Werth was a castoff that the yankees didn’t even want. Yes, the yankees do have homegrown talent, but unlike most teams, the yankees have the HUGE advantage of being able to KEEP their talent while at the same time signing away OTHER people’s talent. I’m serious when I say my son could build a great team like that on his playstation…lol…..I wasn’t even going to bring up the payroll or use any excuse why the phillies lost except the yankees were a better team, but then I see this moron who tries to turn it completely around and say the phillies tried to buy the world series. So the question is to john, as he previously posted…WHO REALLY TRIED TO BUY SUCCESS
    It was really the most bizzaro post I’ve ever seen in my life. I guess he was trying to make himself feel better and trying to legitimize the yankees by posting that

  • Posts: 0 ray

    Weth was a castoff from the dodgers I meant to say.

  • Posts: 0 Tommy2cat

    I’m glad the Fillies lost.

    Brett Meyers is probably kicking the living $hit out of Cole Hamels by now.

    Shane Victorino’s finger will never be the same.

    Jimmy Rollins gazes in the mirror and realizes he’s only 5′5″, and that he looks like Prince from behind. At least Chase Utley thinks so.

    Ryan Howard’s cold hitting zones have been exposed as much as the Giant’s secondary.

    Charlie Manuel cried.

    Kyle Kendrick really does get traded to Japanese team where Shinjo plays centerfield.

    Ooooh, baseball gods, I summon ye….

  • Posts: 0 Scott in D.C.

    I can’t believe we’re *still* arguing about whether the Yankees bought the championship. Of *course* they did. Saying “You still have to execute” is like saying to a racecar driver it doesn’t matter what kind of car you’re driving in the first place. …


    Sometimes evil prevails.

    We got a great season from a team that builds franchises the old-fashioned way: from the ground up.

    Pitchers and catchers report in less than four months.

    Go Phillies!

  • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

    Great season for the Phils, but to beat the Yankees they need to start operating like the Yankees. Sign Figgins and bat him leadoff. Rollins doesn’t help this team batting leadoff – he should be batting seventh. I know Ibanez is a local folk hero, but his future numbers will trend towards his second half rather than his first half. I’d move him even if it meant picking up part of his contract and then sign Matt Holliday to play left. My dream lineup for 2010:

    Figgins -3B
    Victorino – CF
    Utley – 2B
    Howard – 1B
    Holliday – LF
    Werth – RF
    Rollins – SS
    Ruiz – C

  • Posts: 0 sveninnyc

    Congratulations to the Yankees and thanks to the Phillies for a great year!!!

    Yes, it was a painful outcome, but we all know that if the Phils had truly played as they are capable of, they could just as easily have been the ones hoisting the trophy at the end. Most of their WS series losses could have been games won, a bitter realization but also one that should give us hope. The honest Yankees fans that I know were nervous before the Series started, knowing that the Phils offense is so potent that they could take advantage of any mistakes the Yanks made. Unfortunately, the reverse is also true, as we saw. But even though the Phils were not playing their best they still took the winningest team in baseball to 6 games.

    Bottom line: this Phils team has a chance against anyone, which bodes well for next year. I hope that this WS loss stays with them and motivates them, just like the Rockies sweep in 2007. I am optimistic for 2010.

    Thanks to Phillies Nation; I’ve enjoyed the commentary and cameraderie of this site during the playoffs immensely (except for the Yankees trolls).

    See you all next year, and GO PHILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posts: 0 Keith E

    There’s only one way to be successful in the free agency era. That is to spend money. Whether it be to sign your upcoming free agent or another team’s. Ask any small market team. The Pirates just sent 1/3 of an all star team packing because they have no money to retain their players.
    The Yankees didn’t ‘buy’ a WS. They bought players and those players performed. Of our highest paid players only Utley made his mark.
    Congratulations to the Yankees on a well executed game plan.
    GO PHILS!!!

  • Posts: 0 JoeMama

    Just like to point out that the first thing Joe Girardi did at his press conference was congratulate the Phillies on a great Series and the way they have run their organization.
    So they didn’t jump to congratulate the Phillies the first chance they got, maybe you could give some of those guys a break after they just had the weight of the world lifted off their shoulders.

    Also throughout the whole Series all the Yankee players never showed any disrespect towards the Philly organization always offering stock comments such as “they have a great team over there” and so on, unlike your boy Rollins talkin’ smack before the series even started, Manuel basically calling Pettitte a scrub before he pitched game 3. Philly fans throwing coins at Yankee outfielders. Lets not get into a discussion of class, because both sides have people that need to take a look in the mirror.

    It’s all a matter of perspective, Yankee fans will only notice the bad calls against their team, Philly fans will only notice the bad calls against their team. You say Utley didn’t swing, I say Country Joe West punched out A-Rod on a pitch way off the plate and then refused to give the same pitch to Pettitte. A-Rod HR was a double, Howard never touched home plate and so on it goes.

    The Yankees played a great team that fought them until the last pitch.

    Had to offer up a different view on all the classless allegations.
    That’s my take on this series. Good luck next year.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Well, Im not even angry or upset. Its just sad, basically. However, this was the best world series in several years, the others have been 4 or 5 games and not as competetive. The Phillies had a VERY memorable season. They will be back in the World Series next year, you can rest assured of that – providing they make the right moves. The core is still there. But they now know what they need to beat a powerhouse, big money team in the WS. They need even MORE pitching than they have, AND they need consistent hitting up and down the order. You CANT have one or two weak slots in the lineup, you cant have “guys who are in there for their defense so its ok.” Carlos Ruiz, to me, qualifies as someone who is good offensively when the pressure is on and when you need him to be, for the most part. He gets better in the postseason, not worse. He is fine and hell be here for a while. The 7th hitter should not be back.

  • Posts: 0 4daysrest.com

  • Posts: 0 Power of 3

    First of all. Congratulations to the Phillies on a great year. You guys definitely fought hard and gave us all some very nervous moments. My cousins live in Phillie and we had a good time bantering on Facebook through this whole series.

    That said, are we seriously still debating this “buying a championship” question? Baseball is big business. Big business requires big money. To get anywhere in any business, you have to spend and spend wisely. Thank God that we have an owner who expects to have a winning team every year and spends and hires accordingly. How can anyone compare this to a Monopoly game for God’s sake. Are we now going to apply this fascist attitude to baseball as well? And hasn’t anyone heard of profit sharing? The Yankees make a lot of money because they earn it and they invest it wisely. They also are required to share that money with every other team in baseball. I just don’t see the point in complaining about anyone…in baseball or otherwise…who earns their money fair and square. They earned it after all, they can spend it the way they choose. Just my honest opinion.

    Again, congrats on a great series.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    Funny thing, Philly wasn’t destroyed last year in celebration. But by all means, go about your arrogant and ignorant ways.

  • Posts: 0 hoey

    i still love what the phils did this year!!
    i will miss the late night impromptu victory party on broad street.
    God bless the fightin’s and God bless philadelphia!

    and while you are at it God
    can help the eagles beat dallas?

  • Posts: 0 jeff the yankee fan

    First, I give credit to the Phillies, counting all the titles since 1996, I’d argue this was probably either the first or second best team the Yankees have beaten (96 Braves were also defending champions, better starting pitching, nice bats but not on par with this Phillies team). I also think the Phillies have the last work to do this offseason of any team next year; the young core is back and all proved in some series in the postseason the last two years that they could hit in the clutch. I’d said on here I thought Utley would break out of his power draught but I could never expect him to hit that many homers. Only one was a “cheap” homer too. And I can also say I was shocked by the raw power of Jayson Werth. The first HR he hit off Pettite looked almost like a check swing and the second one was hit so hard it almost looked fake like something in Bases Loaded in Nintendo. Also, the Phillies have no holes in the line up. The “weak” hitters are clutch, everyone knows about Ruiz stepping up in big games but Feliz showed he can hit too on a fastball that really wasn’t that bad from Joba that tied a game late.

    I think the Umpiring was in general average to poor in the series. Utley was safe on that double play earlier in the series, but the inning before on the double play Howard didn’t catch the ball. I don’t think Utley went around on the check swing call last night, which affected that inning, but I also think Perdo got a gift on the strike call on A-Rod with one out and the bases loaded.

    From a Yankee stand point, I can’t remember a team that had to go through two post season opponents like that (Angels + Phillies) and win. As we all saw last year, the Rays were raw after the Boston series and the Phillies exploited it, jumping on them early and ending it. Pettite was frustrating twice (I always say every team that faces him thinks they should score 5 more runs than they do). It was obvious the Phillies were pitching around A-Rod and Matsui and Posada picked him up, even with Texiera slumping. The “core 4″ all played well (aside from Posada’s odd plays… remember the game at the Vet a couple years back where Posada had 3 passed balls in an inning?).

    I won’t get to go to this parade unfortunately, bad timing. My wife is due next week.

    Congrats to the Phillies and Yankees on great seasons… I have a feeling this matchup may occur again a couple years down the road in the series, or sooner?

  • Posts: 0 JOjo202020

    @The idiots that are calling out Yankee fans for chanting, “Who’s your daddy?”

    It has nothing to do with Pedro not knowing his father. At one point many years ago he claimed the Yankees were his daddy when he got destroyed by them.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Congrats to the Yankees… well deserved title. I feel good saying that we were beaten by the guys that have been there… Jeter, Matsui, Pettitte, Rivera… those guys had a bigger impact on the series than CC, Burnett, A-Rod and Tex. Talent is talent but I would like to think that our guys are cut from the same cloth as guys like Jeter and Rivera…

    I challenge you to put the money issue aside and not be bitter. If the Yankees want to spend money, let them. After all, Yankee success is better for baseball. We wouldn’t have had the Phillies/Yankees World Series without the rules of free agency. Is it fair? Probably not, but I still trust that our guys can make a run at a title every year for the next three or four years and win a couple more championships! The teams that aren’t in a position to throw around Yankee money have to build from within and that’s still a formula that can lead to success (Rays, Rockies, Marlins, Red Sox and our Phillies)… thankfully, we have the money to retain our talent.

    Go back 14 years (it’s scary to say that…); in 1995 the Atlanta Braves won their first NL East title (prior to 1994, the Braves played in the NL West). As we all know, that would be their first of 11 consecutive NL East titles… remember how it felt to be on the other side of that match up? Remember how hard it was to head into every season knowing that our chances were slim to none? Remember those forgetful years… we sit here today as the proud fans of the three time NLE champs and two time defending National League pennant winners.

    We just witnessed our team fall to the New York Yankees in 6 games… it was a tough and frustrating loss to say the least but it’s really hard to be upset with this team. Could we have played better? Sure… but most people, even us fans, recognized that the Yankees were a better team on paper (but don’t let Chase Utley or Jimmy Rollins hear that nonsense). Our guys gave us hope and something to cheer for… we should applaud them for their efforts and tip our caps to the New York Yankees. Hopefully, we’ll meet again next year!

  • Posts: 0 Jeff G.

    shut up cz. jroll did say 5 then said 6 if they feel generous. stop defending this little piece of garbage. jroll had the worst season and did nothing in the playoffs. he is a big mouth punk. to have pedro pitch in the biggest game killed us. stick to the rotation that got us here. when the yankees hit the ball to the wall in the first then the bomb. he was done. batting practice. happ should of started and gave us more of a chance. you ruined happ forever charlie you dumb hick.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    What is it with Jeff’s and this website?? Seriously… go away.

  • Posts: 0 Phils fan in NYC

    congrats to everyone for a great season… lots to be proud of and some more to look forward to. Thanks also to the people who run this site, you do a great job and i count on it almost every day. It’s professional, classy and sometimes hilarious (commenters, mainly)… good work.

  • Posts: 0 ED8070

    While it hurts a little, the memories and ride that this team gave us this year was amazing. And to know that they’ll be back next year, giving it their all again, most of the guys back, makes me look forward to February and to another amazing season. Counting down to Fenruary already! Go Phils!!!

  • Posts: 0 bob

    @ Chuck P

    Very well said. The Yanks were better (money issues or not). Most teams would have folded after the gut punches of Game 3 and ESPECIALLY game 4. The ability of this Phillies team to keep rebounding is just flat out amazing. I see a group of men that sincerely love to play this game, they truly do care.

    To some of the Yankee trolls…..shut the hell up and enjoy the WS win.

  • Posts: 0 Ron W

    Go after John Lackey.
    Get Hammels in the weight room.

  • Posts: 0 CZ

    Jojo – We understand that. I think what people are saying is that despite the fact that it is joke that it could have another connotation to a man who never knew his father. I for one really don’t think he cared a whole lot and don’t think those chants had any bearing on the game.

    Its hard to sound anything but bitter when you just lost a World Series to the Yankees and begin discussing the way in which they build their roster. The argument is absolutely a valid one but I’m not naive enough to sit here and actually hope for anything to change. To be honest, would we want that? Its hard to swallow but the Phillies are one of only a few teams who’s payroll is over $100mil. Of course the Yanks top $200mil, but when you have your own television station its hard not to. You have to give them credit. The business model of the Yankees is almost pure perfection. They will perpetually be able to outspend every team in baseball. Very simply put – the more money they spend, the more people watch the YES network, then the more money they make. Credit them for making sure that cycle continues. To say that the Phillies ownership does not want to win is unfair but they are operating with far less revenues and I honestly believe they do what they can. The fact is our front office has such a thinner line to walk. They must be perfect, and they almost were.

    The rest of the leagues in this country work just fine with salary caps. Despite the caps the well run organizations always rise to the top. I have no doubt that if baseball operated that way that you still might see the Yankees and Phillies succeed more often than not. I think they both understand how to work within the rules and parameters that they are given and get the most out of the product that they can afford to field.

    I’ve said it already, and others have as well. Despite the fact that this argument may exist, the simple fact is that when the game was played on the field that Yankees team outplayed our Phillies team. There really isn’t much more to it than that.

  • Posts: 0 Bob Kahn

    Nice post.

    It was sad last night but it was a great season. Being #2 of out 30 ain’t bad.

    I don’t like all the whining (from Yankee or Phillies fans) but I have to remember that there is no age or IQ requirement for posting.

    I would just like to say that the Yankees played better but it could have gone either way.

    Both teams will be mostly intact for next year so we can do this all again. Hope it comes out differently next year!

  • Posts: 0 Chuck


    Forget those “Jeff” douches……sore losers….who, obviously, have nothing else to do but to complain. Seriously, had the Phillies won the whole thing again, they probably would have something to bitch about with that.


    To the Yankee fans on here who are classy and gracious…..Congratulations on a fine series win. You guys played great and beat us….it’s as simple as that. Here’s hoping we see you again next year to retake our crown.


    To the arrogant Yankee fans……do yourselves a favor and get a life…..and, in the process, maybe get some counseling or something….because chances are the reason you’re so self-serving and arrogant is due to some deeper issues within your very core.


    To the Fat Lady…..we heard you….but you’re a little off-key. You sounded better LAST year. Practice…..cause we’re gonna need you to sing your heart out NEXT year..

  • Posts: 0 Ron W

    What’s with the bandaids? Feliz had one on his nose earlier in the series, and the next night Charlie had on on his chin.

  • Posts: 0 Dills

    Still deeply proud of the Phellas and the amazing journey they’ve taken us on these past 2 seasons. They will feed off this disappointment, let it fuel the embers glowing in their gut all off-season, and come out like the juggernauts we all know they are and absolutely dominate in 2010.

    Is it true that both Lackey and Halladay are going to be free agents?

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    See…that’s what I mean…..

    “at least the Yankees core performed.” “WTG, Phillies core.”

    Arrogant, pompous, self-serving A$$holes..

    Dude’s team wins the WS and he’s on here the morning after acting like a douchebag..

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    They need to get rid of Feliz. Hamels is a 3rd starter at this point until he shows form again. They will sign Cliff Lee to a lucrative extension before Spring Training begins, guaranteed.

    If they can re-sign Brett Myers cheaply, then I would do that.

    These are the guys we have to work with…

    Pedro (Free Agent)
    Myers (Free Agent)
    Moyer (shoudl retire)

    Drabek will be given time at AAA to groom and polish.

    Does anyone else here think that they could sell on Hamels and trade him? Cliff Lee will get the money, not Hamels. Hamels said and did some things that really do not endear him to me or any Philly fan anymore. He basically quit on his teammates. I think they could quietly shop him in the coming weeks.

    I would trade Hamels for the best available deal. Meanwhile, they should move Brown and some lesser prospects for a closer – namely Joakim Soria or Bobby Jenks. If Lidge comes back into form, fine, now you have a deep bullpen. If not, you have a backup plan. Madson sets up still.

    They should try to retain Myers because he wont cost much because of his injury and you can use him out of the bullpen too. They will not sign a big money starting pitcher because the money for that goes to Lee. They shoudl trade for a number two starting pitcher – potentially as part of the Hamels deal.

    They should try to sign Chone Figgins if they can afford to, otherwise backup plans would be Garret Atkins and Adrian Beltre. I would go after Mark DeRosa too. Matt Stairs is done, so they need a LH Pinch Hitter too who has pop. Pedro Feliz is done though as an everyday player on a playoff team. Get rid of him.

    Then Id go out and look for some value relievers to rebuild the core of the bullpen. Romero should be out of here, Park should be resigned.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    How do we “fold”?? Explain that….and do it intelligently.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Nice post Chuck…

    I just don’t understand how people can go through life getting pleasure out of rooting for the demise of anything… I mean, isn’t it better to root for something than against something? My dad is one of those guys… a crotchity bastard. He doesn’t really root for anyone; the only time he says anything is when the team is losing and then suddenly he acts like he knows everything. Pisses me off to no end… I don’t sports with my dad for that reason.

    For this next comment, I’m speaking to the Jeff’s on here… the guys that claim to be fans… the guys who are just coming on here to be a$$ holes can take a hike.

    Ask yourself why you are happiest and loudest when our team is losing… why don’t we hear from you when we win? In my opinion, that’s not fanhood… that’s being a scrooge. If you hide when the team wins and make a point to say something every time the team loses, that makes you more a fan of losing… well, thankfully, this team WINS more than it LOSES so your voices have become quieter and quieter. I don’t read gameday posts because every strikeout of every inning gives you guys a reason to voice their opinion.

    One more point… I think that the two best fan bases in baseball are the Yankees and Phillies and this series proved that. Their fans are knowledgeable and respectful. There are bad apples in every basket but for the most part, it was a fun series to chat about. I think that we’re more passionate but they’re more “businesslike.” It’s interesting how a team and a fan base can be so much alike…

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Who the eff is this guy??

  • Posts: 0 Mr. Phil

    I’ll leave the second guessing and speculation to others. This was a great ride for Phillies fans and this website is my favorite one to read with knowledgable, well thought out opinions from loyal fans. Sure we wanted to win another crown, but this team gave me such pleasure this year. I’m very proud to be a fan and to sport Phillies colors and logos, moreso than at any other time in my lifetime of rooting on the Phillies. That includes my boyhood when the Phils started to show promise with Frank Lucchesi and a very young Bowa, Doyle, and future Hall of Famers Schmidt and Carlton.

    History will prove this team to be one of the best, if not the best Phillies team. It’s one that everyone can easily root for.

    I am disappointed this season is over and that the Phillies fell short of the overall goal. I for one and anxious to travel to different cities to root on the Phils next year, planning some vacations to do just that.

    I loved how during the Race 2 Repeat by how many ex-Phillies players cheered them on just like us regular guys and gals.

    The excitement that the Phillies brought us drew casual fans onto the bandwagon and made the town a baseball town once again. I don’t resent the bandwagoneers one bit. Along with most of the fans on this board, the passion for this team runs deep.

    Okay, now I’ll read the comments and story line. I just had to share how I feel.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Consider this… the Eagles are playing the Cowboys this week to determine who will be the outright leader in the NFC East and if you listen to 610 WIP, there has been ZERO talk about the Eagles up until today… that’s what this team has done.

  • Posts: 0 Ed R.

    Taking pleasure in other peoples misery…they have a name for people like that, its called terrorist.

    I am so sick of the classless people that show up on these boards. It’s unbelievable. Sure, there are classless Philly fans out there. The people chanting “a$$hole” at games is not someone I would be proud to say is a Phillies fan. The environment at Yankee stadium was pretty weak and pathetic, especially compared to what was at CBP but in the same vain, I didn’t see Yankee fan’s chanting some of the crap that Philadelphia fans were chanting.

    I am proud of how much the Phillie fans supported and showed up for their team but I am not proud of some of the things they say and do.

    I come to this board because I want to talk to other Phillies fans, not the people who go to games to get wasted and yell curse words and be disrespectful. It’s the same reason I do not post on ESPN boards as they relate to the Phillies. I don’t want an open forum, I want something to chat with other true Phillies fans about. Not trolls, or just disrespectful people that take pleasure in baiting others. I will never for the life of me understand how people can be so rude and disrespectful to each other. I am certainly not a saint but I am not an a$$hole either.

    I wish PN would find a few people willing to moderate the board so that some of this crap is not even on here. No one here wants to get into these pointless debates. I am not saying this board should be off limits to non Phillies fans. Clearly there are fans of other teams(grumpyminer) as an example who are respectful and in return respected by the other people who frequent this board but for the rest of you who are here with the sole purpose of starting arguments and being disrespectful, please, just go somewhere else. All you are doing is feeding into the preconceived notions that others have for you, your team and your city. And that’s not fair to the others who root for your team or live in your city to be judged by what I believe to be the minority.

  • Posts: 0 SDO

    What a good phight it was. I’m proud of our team given what they had to overcome all year to get to this point. I’m excited to see what next year has to bring – especially what the fresh young talent (Drabek, Taylor) will add.

    And all you jealous Mets-loving losers – maybe you’ll get to see a glimpse of the postseason again someday… in 2012.

  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    Puh-leze…. just a day after the World Series and already we have all this “hot stove” speculations on who stays and who goes. Give it a rest and enjoy the holidays and Eagles football.

  • Posts: 0 Bonezy

    As much as I don’t want to admit it, the Yankees were the better team for this series. We will improve and even my Yankees friends say that we are the class of the NL. Congratulations to you Yankee fans and we will see you next year.

  • Posts: 0 hoizlach

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    For the most part, the posters on here are a real pleasure to “talk” to every day. I look forward to it. Thank you to all of you for making my days a little more enjoyable….a little easier to get through. I hope you guys stick around this winter for some fun hot stove talk..

    The occasional “Jeff” types that show up on here are hard to communicate with and I’m glad that they’re the exception and not the norm. I’m glad you’re fans…but seriously….take a hard look at yourselves….Do you really want to be a “crotchety bastard” like Chuck P refers to his own father as?? Do you want YOUR kids thnking that of you??

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Hey Misery… folding is quitting and you can’t say we quit. Maybe we ran out of gas but there was no quit in this team. We went after Burnett in game 5 and put plenty of runners on base in game 6… the difference in this series was Hamels’ ineffectiveness and our inability to drive in runs with men on base.

    Jimmy Rollins was quiet for most of the season. I think his WS average was higher than his season average. Howard strikes out and drives in runs… that’s what he does… our team wins despite that. The fact that he broke that record is news to no one but this team knows how to win when he’s cold and they know how to jump on his back when he’s hot. Vic struggled… Werth hit two homeruns against Pettitte; I’d say that he proved his worth.

    We had to beat CC twice and Burnett/Pettitte once… we couldn’t get to Pettitte. Hamels isn’t right- his fastball velocity is down which makes his changeup less effective. Happ was coming off of a late season injury and Blanton is not the guy you want on the mound against the Yankees lineup… we went with what we had which was the Goat.

    Lee has NEVER pitched on short rest… the WS is NOT the time when you experiment with something like that.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck


    If that’s your best stab at “intelligently”….then you better get a dictionary and look up the word.

    Or are you just trying to be negative or funny?? If so…..bad attempt there, guy.

    Oh, and by the way….great name…..Love the Misery…..cause you’re a miserable excuse for a human being….

  • Posts: 0 CZ

    I think the last thing we as fans should be doing is overreacting and suggesting that we sign this guy and that guy and dump so and so. The simple fact is that throughout this postseason each player contributed and that is the sign of a true TEAM. I honestly believe they will field the exact same starting 9 next year, and I’m perfectly fine with that. I don’t think there are too many teams that wouldn’t love to have Pedro Feliz as their 7 hole hitter and dominant defensive 3rd basemen. Not every player is going to be an all-star but role players are important too. I also don’t expect the front office to sign a bunch of high priced bullpen arms. One would be nice but next year we will have a healthy Romero and Bastardo as lefties. There will need to be decisions made about Park, Condrey & Durbin but Lidge & Madson will return. Let us not forget about one very interesting name – Scott Matheison. He is future closer coming off of two Tommy John surgeries who is throwing upper 90′s heat with a absolutely nasty power slider in the Arizona Fall League right now. I expect him to be the Phillies ‘rookie’ that has the most impact next year.

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