Staying Alive: Phillies Send Series Back to NY
Posted by Amanda Orr, Tue, November 03, 2009 01:30 AM | Comments: 78
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The World Series is headed back to the Bronx! Facing elimination, Chase Utley and Cliff Lee led the Phillies to an important 8-6 victory.
Red-hot Alex Rodriguez quickly put the Yankees on the board. A-Rod’s World Series slump is history, but Chase Utley made history of his own. Utley’s first inning three-run bomb started a long night for A.J Burnett; yet Utley was far from done.
The Phillies tacked on runs in the third inning via RBIs by Jayson Werth, Raul Ibanez, and Carlos Ruiz. Burnett was the complete opposite from game two – he lasted just two innings and gave up six runs. Meanwhile, Cliff Lee was cruising.
Lee wasn’t lights out, but he pitched better than his line indicated. He threw for seven innings, but tired as he approached the 100+ pitch mark. Three of the five earned runs he allowed came in the eighth inning, including one inherited run. Some spotty defense by JRoll and Howard also contributed to two earned runs.
Once again, it was A-Rod with the big hit. After Shane Victorino was hit by a pitch in the first inning, Charlie Manuel opted to rest him in the eighth after the Phillies took a commanding six-run lead. The move was questionable since Raul Ibanez was unable to make a tough catch and Ben Francisco, Victorino’s replacement, made a weak throw after a sacrifice fly RBI. The six-run cushion was cut in half.
Chase Utley’s second home run and Ibanez’s solo shot were big reasons why the Phillies had such a large lead in the first place. Utley now has five home runs in the World Series, tying Mr. October, Reggie Jackson’s record from 1977. The home runs proved to be key since the Yankees continued to fight back.
After Chan Ho Park pitched a solid eighth, Ryan Madson was asked to close. A Jorge Posada double and Hideki Matsui single set up the beginning of another potential ninth-inning nightmare. Instead, a run was traded for a Jeter double play then Madson struck out Mark Teixeira to end the game. Whew!
Breathe a little easier, but there are still two more games the Phillies need to win and they’ll have to do that on the Yankees’ turf. Fortunately this team plays their best with their backs against the wall. So tonight, keep believing and keep those hopes high.

















Posts: 0 goosebumps
Phaith.
Posted: 01:33 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike D.
This team will most certainly give me a coronary by the time this series is over. They almost gave me one tonight.
If Howard and King Cole both show up, then we will win in 7.
Posted: 01:35 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Philly Texan
I barely held it together in the 9th. The Jeter double-play saved the season.
But, hey, at this time of year, a win’s a win.
I like our chances in game 6. They’re starting a soft-tossing 37-year-old who relies on location on short rest. Yes, it’s Andy Pettitte, but this is a tough situation.
He hasn’t pitched on short rest in like four years, and he’s facing a hot offensive club for the second time.
Let’s go Phils! Keep hope alive!!!
Posted: 01:35 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 BS
The Yank’s offense is so relentless. It’s telling that I wasn’t comfortable with a 6 run lead. We really need Howard to turn himself around and go on one of those stretches where he carries the team.
Posted: 01:37 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 goosebumps
And great win, but heres what the phils gotta do:
The Yankees take advantage of every little mistake. Howard not throwing home- led to a run.
J-rol not throwing to first- led to more runs.
Also, every time pedro feliz comes to bat, I bet 5$ that he will not run a 2-2 count. I think he may have done it one time this whole post season.
Howard needs to relax at the plate.
Utley needs some bengay for his shoulders. They must hurt from carrying this offense!
Posted: 01:41 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 chitown phillyfan
I just have to say win or lose, its a pleasure to watch this team continue to fight, anything can happen from here…GO PHILLIES!
Posted: 01:42 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Andrew
I think Id go happ game 6 and Pedro game 7.
Rookie in game 7 of the WS or Pedro?
Posted: 01:42 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 GENIUS
Mike D: There will be no more “King Cole” in this series. No matter what. He is a noodle armed Mr. Softy with a miserable attitiude. I would honestly rather see Brett Myers start Game 7.
Posted: 01:43 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike D.
I’d do a rain dance and make damned sure it rains enough so that Cliff Lee gets his normal rest, that’s what I’d do.
Posted: 01:43 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
I wasnt comfortable either, but that was partially some of the decisions made. take out Vic? Take out Chan ho? hmm. It worked. Lets go to game 6. But honestly Mike D, if Queen Cole decides he wants to ball in game 7, my first post will be Congratulations Yankees. As if sucking it up the entire post season wasnt enough he comes out and says he “Can’t wait until its over”. For that comment alone, I wouldnt put him anywhere near the freakin clubhouse if it goes to 7.
Posted: 01:44 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Andrew
Cole isnt pitching game 7. I wont even watch.
the weather is clear for the next week in the bronx there is no chance of rain.
Posted: 01:45 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 1313 Pat Gallen
I agree with Chi Town: It’s amazing to watch this team keep fighting for 9 innings at a time. It’s not always pretty, but it is great to see them giving everything.
High hopes, everyone!
Posted: 01:48 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike D.
Well, then, we’ll just all need to do a rain dance. And it isn’t a guaranteed loss, just as long as Cole’s on a short leash and Charlie will yank him faster than you can say “Adam Eaton.”
Posted: 01:49 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 TrappedInNYC
Pedro in Game 6…Happ/Park/Lee in Game 7…I can’t wait to see the fear on their faces in the Bronx
Posted: 01:50 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
I am still beside myself that a professional baseball player who wants to be ab Ace, and was upset when the Phillies went to get a real Ace, comes out says he “Can’t want until its over”. That attitude is what REALLY scares me with 6 and maybe 7 coming up. An attitude like that will lose a game and a series since the Yankees only need one in NY.
Posted: 01:50 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Well Mike D, I have more phaith in Brad Lidge not blowing a single save next season than I do with; a. Queen Cole winning a game in NY, and b. Charlie actually keeping the Queen on a short leash.
Posted: 01:53 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Andrew
If we can get it to 7. Then you hear the choking noise from the bronx.
They do have to beat us one more time. i love them using their guys on short rest. i hate that we lost game 4 though.
Posted: 01:54 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
If we make it game 7, that is a GREAT thing honestly. The fact that the Yankees and the best team MONEY CAN BUY didnt sweep the Phillies and are fighting for this WS with the Phillies about 90Million less in payroll is pretty impressive that the Phillies can do that much without spending as much. Anywhere near as much actually.
Posted: 01:58 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Mike D.
Yeah, Cole’s made me look stupid with many of my “he’ll get em next time” predictions. Overshadowed my “Lidge will get the W” prediction for NLCS Game 4. And I think Cole should have kept his mouth shut. I’m sure that he regrets saying it. I’m just worried because he doesn’t enjoy doing his job, which is to play a game. But Charlie kept him on a (relatively) short leash for Game 5 of the LCS. His going to the curve and not being able to throw a fastball by anyone after 4 innings means he’s gassed, Dubee and Charlie probably know this.
Posted: 02:01 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Andrew
Brian salary isnt really in the discussion. It is part of why we hate the yanks but we are hardly poor people pan handling like the Rays. We didnt care last year that they were lower and I dont care this year abouth the yankees payroll. They have to pay more to get players to go there anyway.
Cole sucks please lets not see him again.
Posted: 02:05 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Ryan
I would vote no Cole for the rest of the Series. Yeah, we got away with using him in the LCS, but the Yankees are a much better team than the Dodgers. The Yankees can hurt us up and down the lineup, and I just don’t think Cole would stand a chance against them. I say we go with Happ in Game 6, and if it gets to a seventh, we go with a well-rested Pedro. Either way, you have to like the way we match up against an aging Pettite on short rest. If our offense continues this little streak, I love our chances, especially if the Big Man wakes up.
Posted: 02:07 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Well I dont think Blanton did to poorly, but I am now wondering if they should have Started Lee in 4, then Blanton, Pedro and Lee again. If Lee won Game 4, would be 2-2 entering tonight with Lee still going again. Oh well, its in the past, the only thing to think about now is winning 2 more game. We are behind the 8 ball, and the numbers are against us, but its not over. Doubtful honestly but I was dead wrong with the rest of the post season. So heres to High Hopes.
Posted: 02:11 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 CZ
You heard it here first. Cole Hamels WILL start game 7 if they make it. It just makes too much sense. He gets the fisrt 3 innings to pitch great like he has all postseason then any sign of trouble he’s out and then you have any bullpen arm plus Blanton, Lee, Happ to finish it out. I honestly don’t even know why there is a discussion. What everyone is not saying is that before he was baited into the regrettable ‘can’t wait till its over’ comment’ he had already made it very clear that he wanted the ball in a potential game 7. The other quote came after he was asked hypothetically about if there was no game 7. Should he have said it? No, probably not but the kid is till young, brutally honest, and the fact is I believe he has left it all out on the field. He hasn’t performed up to his ability and no one knows that better than he does. I think everyone needs to realize that and move on.
Posted: 02:25 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Well CZ, I want nothing more than to be proven wrong about the next two games, and especially Hamels.
Posted: 02:30 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 chitown phillyfan
Another thing I find amazing about this team is that they are fighting for a World Series with a beleaguered and injured bullpen. Few of the experts even had the Phillies in the World Series at the start of the playoffs, and many had them losing to the Rockies. Again it just goes to show how hard they fight to overcome defencies, and how appreciative we should be as fans.
Posted: 02:30 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Sam
No guys, I go with Pedro game 6 and take a chance in game 7. Remember, there’s no garauntees any Phils or Yanks pitcher will be good or bad the rest of the way. Based on what we’ve seen so far, I’d feel more comfortable with Pedro pitching trailing this series. Worry about game 7 if/when we getto that. Plus, remember Happ/Blanton/Hamels/Myers/Park would be going against CC, whose arm has been used quite heavily this postseason. Think of it this way: If charlie had switched Pedro and Hamels, the Phils would have won game 3, assuming both pitchers pitched the same game. Considering how the Phils have done vs. CC, I’d rather have Pedro going against someone who might hold the offense down
Posted: 02:33 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Phil
I don’t want to talk about game 7, but should Lee start if we do get there?
Posted: 02:39 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
First things first, Pedro needs to pitch the same in game 6, and the Offense needs to continue what they did tonight THEN and ONLY then we worry about game 7.
Posted: 02:45 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Bruce
For game 7, ALL pitchers are on alert and available. After all, there is no tomorrow. Manuel already has committed Pedro Martinez to pitch against Andy Pettitte for game 6 Wednesday.
Posted: 02:51 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Great, because Cole Hamels is “young, brutally honest” and couldnt keep his mouth shut, the verbal arguments have started in the Phillies Locker room. Brett Myers walked by his locker and jokingly said “Why are you here, I thought you quit”. Couldn’t deal with the joke about his idiotic comment so cursed him out. Nice Cole, way to turn other pitchers against you, and create a rift in the Locker Room. The once Poster Child of everything you want in the Post Season quickly turns everyone against him.
Posted: 03:03 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
…I keep saying this about Happ…I think he he’s more injured than we Know..One rough start in belolw freezing temps and given Hamels horrid post season Happ doesn’t get the call with the year he put in?…At lesat he does have three pitches. Also ever since he reinjured his oblique the remainder of his regular seasons starts were sub par and he has worked behind hitters constantly in his one post season start and his relief appearances. In 4.2 innings he has given up 7 hits, 4 ER, 1 HR, 5 BB, 4 K’s, 9.00 ERA.. Maybe a a cortisone shot and he could push thru it…who knows. But those are paltry numbers who talent suggests otherwise
Posted: 03:20 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
that’s “those are paltry numbers for someone whos talent suggests otherwise.”
Posted: 03:24 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 j reed
Man to bad Myers (ex-golden glove boxer) didn’t deck him.
Posted: 03:27 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Scooter
The Phillies will win game 6 & 7 and repeat as world champs!
Posted: 03:40 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta
Two things, do not worry about a game 7 until we game 6 please. The Phillies have to win Wednesday night, Old man Petite on 3 days rest, I like our chances if Pedro can go 6+ and give up 3 or less runs. The bats have to stay hot, and it would be really good if Ryan can hit, good thing from tonights game, which I was at, is that he took walks, so his eye seems to be coming back, So if he swings at strikes he will get hits.
And I just have to say, I live in Vermont and have driven down to PA for 4 playoff games, and they have won them all, game 1 against the ROX, 3 and 4 against LA and now game 5 against the Yankees, so I think someone needs to get me tickets to games 6 and 7 in NY. I am just saying.
But really about this game, good win, one more win on wednesday,and that is all I have to say for now
Posted: 03:58 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Brian of CO
Working Midnight shifts I have to watch re-runs of ESPN and Sportscenter, and while I love seeing the re-plays of the Eagles BEAT DOWN on the Giants, and the replay of Game 5 with the Phillies win, I cant deal with Bobby Valentine anymore. Wow he sounds like a COMPLETE MORON.
Posted: 04:15 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Emily
No! The Yankees have to win the next game, so they will be the World Series Champs! I really shouldn’t be rooting for the Yankees since I live near Philidelphia, but I wasn’t born here so I can root for anyone I want, right? GO YANKEES!
Posted: 07:42 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 bfo_33
Stating the obvious – every game is an elimination game at this point. I also like going lefty-righty starters. Stick with Pedro Wed, hope to get 5 good innnings, then go to Happ. I think Petite will make Burnett’s outing look successful – he won’t make it out of the 2nd inning. He looked very hittable on normal rest, just couldn’t knock him out. Chase F’in Utley!!!!
I also think that Myers lit a fire under Cole. Either Myers is a genius at motivation, or a wise-ass who can’t help himself, but either way, I love that he slapped Cole around a bit. Howard, please spend the next two days watching tape, then going to the batting cage – you look lost up there. Shave the beard too (keep the porn stache if you like), it’s not you.
Posted: 07:51 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 OZ
No Cole. Happ in 6 – keep the yanks on their toes. they haven’t seen much of him, and the 1 time they did, he pitched great – in NYC no less. Lee on short rest in Game 7???
Posted: 08:11 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Papa Thompson
I’d say that, at this point, keeping Lee on regular rest looks like a good decision to me.
Maybe we win Game 4 with Lee starting the game; maybe we don’t. But holding him for Game 5 swung the match-ups in our favor and upped our chances of taking this series the distance.
Plus, you never know when throwing a guy on short rest is going to blow up in your face (see AJ Burnett .. and, hopefully, Andy Petitte on Wednesday … and CC on Thursday, for that matter).
I think going with Pedro in 6 is a no-brainer. You have to get to 7 before worrying about a starter, and Pedro provides the best chance of getting us there.
In 7, I’d really be surprised if Charlie started anybody but Hamels. This is Charlie. Mr. Loyalty. And while Happ may be a more popular choice right now, the fact is he just hasn’t been good of late — a 6.75 ERA in 5.1 postseason innings.
Happ gets a lot of credit for being unflappable on the mound, but in a deciding WS game, I’ll take the guy who last year stood in front of 45,000 fans and a TV audience and proclaimed he looks forward to “Parading that trophy down Broad Street again, and again and again.”
I personally think this whole “just wish it was over” thing is way overblown. And if the team sees it that way, it’s not an issue that would weigh into a decision to start Cole or not start him. As pointed out here, he’s been pretty good early in the game, so keep him on a short leash, hope for the best and consider him at worst a bridge to Lee – who would be due to pitch a side session on Thursday anyway.
Posted: 08:25 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Look, what Hamels said was clearly taken out of context. The guy spent 95% of the conversation talking about how badly he wants the ball in game 7 and how he wants a shot at redemption. And only then, after all of that, did he make the comment that he couldn’t wait for HIS season to end as it has been mentally draining etc. Not, that he couldn’t wait for the Phillies season to end.
Obviously it was not the smartest thing he has ever said, he has a habit of saying what he is feeling without really thinking about it. Something he needs to work on for sure but I just don’t get people blasting him about it. Keep in mind that I am not a big Hamels fan and have said on the record for months that the guy is not mentally tough. Even still, I don’t have an issue with any of what he said. If I were him, I would wish like hell my season was over too so I could get a little rest and then get back to work. He wants to be the best, this season has been a disaster for him, imagine how that feels for him? Would you rather him said, well, I was the LCS and WS MVP last year, we won the World Series so cut me some slack, I just didn’t have a good year. At least he cares enough to recognize that he has been awful and wants to move past it.
Secondly, Myers is a douche. I appreciate that he is a bull dog and is a team guy but he is also a huge jerkoff and I don’t in anyway think he should have said anything to Hamels at all. What purpose could that have possibly served?
Also, isn’t anyone at all curious how this got out? To my understanding this happened right after the game ended, the reporters should not have been in the locker room yet, which means somehow someone said something to a reporter after it happened. That concerns me.
I think Pedro getting another chance to put a steak into the hearts of the Yankees is exactly what this team needs. Had our offense showed up at all in game 2 then he deserved to get the win. Hopefully this time it will be a different story and our offense continues to do some things. Though I would imagine Utley won’t see a pitch to hit in game 6, and I doubt Howard will suddenly wake up vs a tough lefty. I guess it will all be on Werth to put up some big numbers. He did it once before.
And lastly, if it gets to a game 7. I would still throw Hamels over Happ. But he would be on a very very short leash with Happ ready come in at a moments notice. Heck, Lee would also be available for an inning or two. If we get there.
This season isn’t over yet but the Phillies still have a lot of work to do.
Posted: 08:27 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Papa Thompson
My gut tells me Hamels v. Myers is yet another example of something that started in good fun, then was taken out of context and blown out of proportion. The other example is Rollins’ “phils in 5, prediction.”
Posted: 08:36 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Keith E
One step, another, and then another…..
First step has been taken.
GO PHILS!!!
Posted: 08:46 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Harry Kalas
Once again Edr makes the most sense here…. We all wish that Cole was tough enough and strong enough to take the ball on three days rest in Game 6 to be perfectly honest. We have also seen though that pitching on 3 days can kill a pitcher’s good stuff. At this point I’m just glad we’ll at least one more Phillies game to watch. I don’t know what to expect on Wednesday nite. I would like for Chuck to break-up Chase/Howard. Maybe put Werth as the 4 hole guy. Andy is way too smart to give Chase any more meatballs to crush. Vic is a gamer, but if the hand is still swollen he has to sit. It will hurt us defn more than anything. Charlie’s brain freeze in leaving Raul in left almost cost us last nite.
-Vic has to be honest here. As we still have time to make a roster move. Mayberry Jr??? That way, you’d have Ben Fran in left, Werth in Center, Mayberry Jr in right. Raul as your DH. I wish we could replace Dobbs for Cairo….. I know Mayberry would be ice cold. But it’s better than Ben/Raul in RF? That could be brutal. Please Shane just be honest. If you’re hurt just respectfully sit out. No shame in that. We all know how big your heart is.
Posted: 09:09 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R.
I agree with H.K. Chase will not, or should not see a pitch anywhere near the zone for the next two games. That being the case, with Howard looking as lost as he is, Werth should get slid in between Utley and Howard but I don’t know if Charlie will make that move.
I also agree that it Victorino is as bad off as it sounds like he is, then he should sit. If this was in Philly I would not take him off the roster but rather let him come off the bench and put Frisco in CF but with it being in the AL and having the use of the DH, then I would say that Victorino probably does have to come off the roster. Mayberry is a good option, not sure what he has been doing the last few weeks? Arizona Fall League maybe?
I think game 6 you will see Frisco in LF and Ibanez DH, and Shane at CF but we will see. I do agree, Shane has a huge heart and in no way wants to come out but he probably should.
Also, am I the only one that thinks A-Rod should have been walked in the 8th with first base open? I know it would load the bases with no outs, but considering what was due up after A-Rod I would have chanced it. Luckily it worked out, and hindsight is always 20/20 but I was thinking after Tex’s double that I would walk A-Rod. I know its highly unlikely that anyone would walk the bases load but with a 6 run lead, I would have chanced it. Not saying Charlie made the wrong choice either way, just playing Devils Advocate.
Posted: 09:19 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Not sure if anyone else saw this.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/victorino_angry_at_bowa_for_saying_eLSCdyPtKf66HLB5y72oHI
Posted: 09:35 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 bob
@ Ed,
I love Charlie’s response “If I can steal signs, I will”
LOL, CLASSIC!
-If a team is dumb enough to make their signs so obvious, they have a right to be stolen. As a player, I was certainly looking for something to tip me off
Posted: 09:54 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Well as a former pitcher, and I say that light heartedly as I was never anything of importance, but as someone who pitched, stealing signs did bother me but at the same point, it was on my catcher and I to work around it. Changing up signs is not all that hard to do. If you are obvious about your signs and someone standing at 2nd base can steal them then so be it. I do however have a problem if there is a camera in center field and the bull pen is then relaying those signs to the plate. That I find to be very wrong.
Posted: 10:01 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 George
Too many fans are idiots. Too many fans take everything out of context and make personal attacks against any player who has had an off-year. Were I a player, I’d take the Steve Carlton approach and never talk to the media.
I hope Hamels wears a bulletproof vest for his next start, because with some of the clowns aiming at him, he may need it. Everyone says he is gutless, mentally weak, etc. etc. But it takes someone unusually strong to go out every five days under such a barrage of personal attacks.
Posted: 10:23 AM on November 3, 2009
Posts: 0 PhreeholdDave
Charlie didn’t have such a good day yesterday. I thought he should have brought Bruntlett or someone else to bunt Ruiz to second in the 8th inning. And, he probably should have left Victorino in and put Francisco in left. (Not sure about the extent of Victorino’s injury.
However, I think the Phillies have a good shot at Game 6. They got to Petitte in Game 3 and he is coming off of 3 days rest which he is not used to doing.
If the Phillies win in Game 6, then I think you go to Happ for Game 7. Hamels has had 4 post-season starts and really hasn’t had a good outing. He doesn’t seem to be reacting well to things that are going to happen in the course of a baseball game such as errors or bad calls.
Posted: 10:27 AM on November 3, 2009