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THIS IS HUGE!!!! i dont wanna see lee go, but if we can keep happ and blanton….that changes everything…..LET THA HALLADAY SEASON BEGIN!!!

hey..at least you guys are getting some good good pitcher…ask what the mets are doing..offering minor league contracts to kelvim escobar

don’t trade Lee :(

This move only makes sense to me if Lee wants to test free agency and refuses to sign an extension. If RAJ is eager to sign an ace to a multi-year deal, they might be willing to trade Lee in order to go after Halladay, who seems to want to play in Philly.

Even if this is the case, its worth the hit to give up whatever prospects it takes to get Halladay and keep Lee for the year before letting him go. When Lee becomes a free agent that’s 2 compensatory first round draft picks you get, which will help restock the farm if you have to give up 3-4 prospects with one Type A guy going to Toronto for Halladay. Having Lee, Haladay, and Hamels would almost guarenteed a trip to the WS if they stay healthy.

Think big Ruben!

Evan. Thats what I have been saying along. We are geared up to win now. So lets go for it NOW.

Yeah, its only one first round pick, and one sandwich round pick…its still two quality draft picks though…lets just see what happens, and enjoy the excitement as it unfolds.

so Cliff Lee will be on the Yankees in 2011. blah.

Heyman reporting that it’s a 3 way deal with Lee going to the Mariners.

Love this move if, as most are saying, Lee was going to go FA. We don’t lose anything, and gain a pitcher who’s as good (if not better) than Cliff…plus he’ll have a contract in hand. It’s not a world shattering move, but a plus move at least.

If Halladay came here and didn’t do great, he would be run out of town, on the other hand if we only gave up Lee and kept Blanton and Happ our rotation would be in much better shape. Either way, we need head case Hamels to show some signs of his old self. Developing a 3rd pitch would be nice too

Bye Cliff see you pitching for the Stankees soon. Welcome to Philly ROY WHOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!

This whole thing just scares me. Until I hear that Halladay will sign a reasonably priced extension, and the Phils won’t have to give up their elite prospects, and won’t have to trade Blanton to open up salary space, I’m not going to be pleased in the least. If this costs the Phils $20 million per year for five years, two top prospects, and the replacement of Blanton with some low cost grade “D” starter, it’s a HUGE mistake. The money alone could cause them to lose out later on their own free agents, such as Werth, Hamels, and Howard. Losing too many prospects would mean they’d have no one left to replace those free agents.

Man, I don’t know how I feel about this. If Ruben knew that Lee was going to demand big money at the end of this season, I suppose the trade/long term signing of Halladay is well worth it. But right now, its just hard to swallow. I don’t want to have to hate Lee when he’s wearing blue pin stripes…

Zolecki just said on ESPN that Toronto might be kicking in some cash to cover Doc’s salary which would help Phils sign bullpen help (Rodney). I love this deal if our big 3 prospects aren’t included, but I doubt if this will be the case.

Yeah this is all great, and believe me, I will never forget Cliff Lee and what he meant to us last year but I still want to know for sure who we are giving up prospect wise. We can speculate who it is and who it isn’t but I want to know for sure. Any chance we go into next year with a rotation of Hamels, Halladay, Blanton, Happ and ?

Still need that elusive 5th guy .

Joe,

How do you move less than 100% of Lee? I think you meant its not certain who is being moved.

I can’t see this trade happening if either Lee or Blanton aren’t the ones going to Seattle. Want to know nowwwwwwww

I think everyone owes an apology to Ken Rosenthal, LOL.

When all is said and done, the Phils trade Carrasco, Marson, Donald, Knapp and Taylor for 4 years of Halladay and 1/2 year of Lee. Not too shabby.

MLBTR is saying that Taylor is in the deal along with others. I hope all of those “others” are coming from the Mariners.

Hey, this site is alive again!

Good trade all around this team is basiclly set for the next three years Taylor would have nowhere to play and I am not as in love with Drabeck as most people are still concerned about the TJ surgery. The prospects we got from the Mariners along with what we have on the farm in addition to whatever draft picks we have for the next 2-3 years should leave us with a decent system in 3 years just about the time they will be needed.

Halladay will be a beast in the National League. He is the BEST pitcher in baseball and will be a stud like a Steve Carlton. He will put up eye-popping numbers and have a street named after him when he goes into the Hall of Fame.

I dont really like this. Why are we getting rid of our prospects? what happened to the idea of using the mariners prospects. If this is all it took why didnt wejust give them the prospects this summer and had him for even longer. Just seems stupid to me.

In Amaro I trust!

^one thing to add- Baseball law says you don’t stay on top for long (unless the teams in your division are bad/barely better than just OK). I’d rather have Roy Halladay keeping the team at least near the top than any other pitcher in the game right now, I don’t get the feeling Lee was the guy who would hold the team up as much if and when things aren’t going so bad.

Look at this as karma for the Schilling and Rolen deals.

Not knowing much about this kid from Seattle, and assuming not many people on here know much about him either. If he is equal or better prospect then Drabek, than I am fine with it. But like stated before, why move Cliff if we are giving up our own prospects for Doc, was it purely money?